Klasse Act
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I'm sub'd to some of his peers, we all are, that's just not entirely right
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Pan the Organizer product line...let's discuss@
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Not everyoneI'm sub'd to some of his peers, we all are, that's just not entirely right
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I wouldn't watch those crappy channels if they paid me.
All of those half-witted, scuffy looking nerf herders can kiss my ass
Occasionally I will watch Junkman, but even that is very rare/for entertainment purposes
Klasse Act
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You've got a business, right? If so, I get it but for a bunch of us it's borderline entertainment and informative, speaking for myself for sure hereNot everyone
I wouldn't watch those crappy channels if they paid me.
All of those half-witted, scuffy looking nerf herders can kiss my ass
Occasionally I will watch Junkman, but even that is very rare/for entertainment purposes
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Coatingsarecrack
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Crack...you said:
"You respect and like DFB and I do too. But his reviews and how he uses products are completely different than yours. You just respect the man."
How so? A topper is a topper and a drying aid is a drying aid, as far as I know there's one way to use them
Our reviews have turned each other on to new products and it just works for us, inspiration comes from anywhere, following him and his posts prove that out
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DFB said he blow dries then dries with a towel and drying aid. For me that’s drying then adding a topper. I get a coated car 98% dry with a blower.
A drying aid to me is used on a car after rinsing while still wet. Product gets diluted down mor that way. What we call what we do and how we do is semantics.
Sometime I blow dry the car an sometimes I get after it with a PFM. If just using towel I’m still using Ammo hydrate as I think it works better with more water.
When I blow dry I’m excited to try amplify after I dry it.
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Coatingsarecrack
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I mean maybe the sell brands they like. I don’t think backlash should be centered around anything. They didn’t do anything illegal and chose there way to build it. You, I or anyone doesn’t have to like it and support it.
But you bashing them makes you just as bad. You invalidate their reviews but I don’t think they’re moot. They show what they like about it and then speak on it. It may be moot but that’s for the individual watching to decide not you. You make assumptions and talk as absolute.
You have a detailing channel so I could assume your bashing them because you want to see their down fall.
For the record I don’t you actually had some decent opinions till you started yelling and telling us what we should concerned about.
but if I make that inference doesn’t mean it’s right or true just like your opinions of THOR.
I have no dog in the race. I don’t shop with THOR or Pan. Haven’t watched a pan video in years (did watch his and a lot of others on Stars and Stripes today)
Good luck in your endeavors…
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Coatingsarecrack
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Please save the bashing talk and school kid antics, my sole focus is the consumer that is buying these products. I don’t take sponsored deals, affiliate links and the revenue they provide. My sole income from YouTube is through Adsense, which is only generated by people watching.
They can sell brands they like, but the build up TO them selling the brands they like was a bunch of “unbiased honest reviews” of said brands hyping them up. Did you know, that a new place trying to bring on suppliers could have a deal made where one supplier asked for another supplier not to be brought in? Happens in my industry a lot, “you want us, you gotta get rid of them”.
These channels cannot claim to be unbiased and objective when they have monetary incentives coming from the products they feature. They can have their channels, they can have their store, they can sell whatever brands they want.
They are not unbiased and objective.
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Yes so much drama for guys trying to start a business and wash some cars…. Everyone should just relax and just enjoy cleaning their cars.
If someone bothers you just don’t subscribe or watch their videos and move on.
Folks need some. Woosah in their lives.
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Why does such a popular YouTuber get a free pass by his peers is what I'm trying to understand here...anyone
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Because they’re all in the same industry and maybe hope to reach that level. Maybe they shouldn’t get a free pass but for me it’s why even care.
There are a lot of other things to stress us out in life. Not gonna let it soak into my hobby.
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You literally came on the geek and said hello and all off your post have been here to bash other YouTubers… No post to help others or share knowledge…
You go on the internet to find places you can bash people you don’t like. Then get upset and call my post which never attack you school kid antics….
Worried about what other folks that have found success in your industry and not focusing on your product…..
You come across as petty ….
Even with that I wish you future success in your endeavors
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Coatingsarecrack
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Also what’s your YouTube channel so I can subscribe. Not being a jerk just like to help out anyone willing to be on the geek regardless of varying opinions.
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The Guz
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Exactly. It's been 4 months and this is still a talking point.
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Ive missed alot here it seems. Are you saying ads uses a blender? And is basically the same as different brands? I thought they made their own stuff excemp coatings?I feel like the THOR guys actually carried out a 2-3yr plan and did it pretty secretively. They definitely helped with HERO and quite a few other products (Ethos I think?). I think this helped them make their own line by just adopting what works once everyone else dialed it in. I think they burned their bridges here but ultimately were always looking to move in on a spot Autogeek left open - becoming a distributor for a lot of brands under one roof. And to be honest, they probably filled that across a new generation of detailers. They've got a lot of social media attention and a lot of brands. They run one sale and end up with an absurd amount of orders because they capitalized on carrying the most intriguing brands at the moment. Their newest collaboration with Feynlab surprised me because that seems to be more of an "older" brand. Most others they carry are new or foreign and harder to find in the US. THOR doesn't care what brand leaves their warehouse because at long as one is leaving, they're profiting.
I don't want to even start digging into blenders and all that as I spend enough time just reading about detailing topics. I think I've seen a few off-hand comments from the ADS guys that suggest they're not tied to THOR other than they know it is a necessary partnership to seize market capital. I think the THOR guys seized an opening and are probably doing well. Question is, how long will it last - Autogeek can probably advise what not to do by now.
The partnership and their defense of Pan is another story. The guy was an idiot and it seems like he prefers to do some dumb things and never really clear the air every few years. Somehow, it works for him.
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Actually my video being shared here is how I found this thread.
I was active on detailingworld.co.uk for over 10 years though, doing what I am doing now, then. I’m not new to this detailing game.
Again if you think calling out anti consumer behaviour and conflicts of interest is bashing, then the coolaid has fully sunk in, and is terminal.
Same name as here.
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That sucks if its true. Might be time to find another brand to use.
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Coatingsarecrack
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No I just feel most forms of advertising are technically anti consumer and if an individual wants to drink the Kool aid or not it’s up to them. Some people are happy taking the blue pill, some the red.
Me…. I take them both…
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Yeah they speak to formulating their own chemicals. So the supposedly have formulas made to their specs. Not a normal white label where there just reselling whatever a blender is making.
Gotta be pretty big to make own chemicals.
Back in the days use to be a theory that CarPros, Gyeon and Tac Systems shared blenders. Gyeon even offers white labeling manufacturing….
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This all sounds good, seriously, but as far as how ADS was reviewed by them it wouldn't matter to me because I never watched DJ Kalid's channel and when I did I just had to see what the fuss about, guys a clown, trying to be funny...he isnt and the other guy I've never even heard of and never looked at any of his videos
I was convinced about ADS by our very own, in-house reviewer DFB (Deyon), a car guy who pour everything into each and every post and has gained my respect through knowledge AND passion, plus being very particular️
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Not singling anyone out here, more to set the record -
I first learned about ADS BEFORE the brand started to blow up on social media (Youtube, Facebook, Instagram, Podcasts ect). The first product I became aware of was their Wheel Coating, which was being sampled by another Youtuber that doesn't do product reviews or expect a gravy train of products being sent to him for free. If he likes the product, he says so. If he hates it, he says so. At the time, I was looking for a wheel coating that didn't need toppers to be slick, say Carpro DLUX topped with Gliss.................I wanted a single layer coating. After seeing it get positive feedback, I imported a bottle into Australia, paying the typical high shipping costs to do so.
That coating turned out to be an absolute bombshell product, I couldn't be happier with how it performs. THIS is when I started to take notice of the wider product line. By the time ADS started distribution in Australia, the brand was well into its blow-up phase. Other than the products being well received and the occasional Mike G review, I hadn't been influenced by others. Sure, Amplify had been getting a lot of the spot light, but after using the whole lineup, which was paid by me, each product instantly impressed. I've said this before, often a brand will nail a few products here and there in the lineup, not across the range like ADS have done.
I get NO financial gains by saying I like these ADS products, I'm not trying to sell these products or create drama. I just like using them. A good product is a good product.
My environment is indeed completely different to some parts of the US. I will say, I've noticed what works in the USA seems to work just as well in Australia too. But I do concede environmental differences exist. Just about every product I have used that was made for the UK market has been completely disappointing. They just don't work for me, or others in this country.
My drying aid method centers around two concepts..............................used for drying and as a topper. I'm just too particular to not use something when mopping up the remaining 2% of water left after using a leaf blower. But that's just my particular method, one that I've seen others use as well. I also find it perplexing how people still use the 2-bucket method when they have access to a foam cannon. Why have a soap bucket when you have applied soap to the entire vehicle with the cannon, all you need is the rinse bucket. But again, that's just my method that has evolved over many years. In both cases, those methods have been adopted by me after taking on different opinions and experiences.
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Well said Deyon
️I'm certainly one of those who uses the 2BM method after using a foam cannon, foam gun and/or my IK Foam Pro 12 and for me it's just safety and the process, I believe in both. I see why you or others find it unnecessary but even a good pre-wash doesn't remove 100%, the 2BM makes that possible but again that's just me
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