Rinseless Washes - 2022

DFB said:
The sad thing going on here is how ADS get lumped into the "over-hyped" category simply because they launched a new brand and have been relatively successful in doing so.

I know I come across as an ADS fan boy, well that's because I am. I have tried all but the iron remover and the glass coating, there is not a single dud in the lineup. Regardless of price or the age of the company, you can't say that for most of the brands out there.

Put it this way, I have also tried the majority of the Bilt Hamber lineup as well. Apart from Surfex and Atom Mac, there is a reason why you don't hear me saying much about the rest of the range....................................because it's thoroughly average at best.



You know, not much gets said about how some of the mainstream legacy brands who also use social media to their advantage, and quite often far more than some of these low-volume boutique brands like ADS. For example, take a look at the Meguiar's Instagram account. That brand makes multiple posts every day, using the platform to flog old and thoroughly average products that are so out of date its embarrassing. Yet no one pulls them up on that. And yet a small, relatively new brand doing the same, somehow that is devious.
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Yeah I don’t get it. I think just guys like Pan left a sour taste in people mouths so if it’s influencer related. There just like talking commercials and we don’t tend to take things on commercials to heart.

The other part is YouTube use to be a community… where you go get help or find funny things (or not funny) to waste some times.

Just like everything else if it gets a lot of eyes on it, it becomes advertising.


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Setec Astronomy said:
What makes you think that? LC and B&S, AFAIK, are simply fabricators, they buy the foam from people who make foam. People who make wood furniture don't have their own lumber mill, Ford and GM don't have their own steel mills (Hyundai actually does, but they also have a shipyard).

If foam fabricators make their own foam, why are they inconsistent with the colors/cut, even across their own product lines? Why in the B&S EdgeGuard do they have a blue "heavy cut" pad, and then a blueBERRY "heavy polishing", isn't that confusing? Why, if they made their own foam, wouldn't that blueberry pad be orange, as most of those in-between-cutting-and-polishing pads are? Or a completely different color like green?

I have publicly asked the question, don't foam pad manufacturers buy enough foam to get custom colors? If not, what industry uses the same types of foam in such large quantities that it's not feasible for polishing pad makers to get custom colors? You guys who influence the influencers feel free to try and get the answer to that.

PS My apologies for going ape crazy here, Crack, if you meant "Lake Country fabricates foam, TRC does not"
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No lake country has said before it designs and fabricate. I took that to as manufacturing when I saw a TRC video where the talked about making changes to UBS I assumed LC made it. Also due to them owning the patent to their CCS technology. That is a design patent and I just assume those come from the manufacturer like in my industry.

But you could probably be right. LC could design and Fabricate their pads from supplied foam. I guess owning the patent for CCS they could supply it to their manufacturer to make.

I know there are not a lot of companies in general for most uses who do not make their own foams. I had heard at one time there are only 10-20 places that actually “make” foam


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Coatingsarecrack said:
Yeah I don’t get it. I think just guys like Pan left a sour taste in people mouths so if it’s influencer related. There just like talking commercials and we don’t tend to take things on commercials to heart.

The other part is YouTube use to be a community… where you go get help or find funny things (or not funny) to waste some times.

Just like everything else if it gets a lot of eyes on it, it becomes advertising.


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I used to do RW's with the famous Aqua sponge , anyone remember those

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Coatingsarecrack said:
Before my time but you had me looking at them before…

Edit: I think it was grout sponge actually


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Yes but it's called the Aqua sponge, pretty sure it was still technically a grout sponge, worked great️

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OK I got my Griot's Rinseless...the color is slightly different than ONR, it smells different than ONR, and it seems to foam differently when you shake the bottle, but that could be a difference in the bottle necks. I haven't tasted it yet.
 
Klasse Act said:
Yes but it's called the Aqua sponge, pretty sure it was still technically a grout sponge, worked great️

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Was it like this one from Koch Chemie?

 
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DFB said:
Was it like this one from Koch Chemie?

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Eldorado2k said:
Is that similar to a natural sea sponge I used to hear about guys using way back like 20yrs. ago? Weren’t those things alive or something? Lol
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Not sure Ric, sounds interesting though

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Eldorado2k said:
Is that similar to a natural sea sponge I used to hear about guys using way back like 20yrs. ago? Weren’t those things alive or something? Lol
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You had to get the sand out of them.

EDIT: Since Crack brought up grout sponges, I had to go over to Autopia, and refresh my memory as to when that became a thing. The first mention is in 2004, but that person says they got the idea from showcargarage.com . Most of you probably don't know/remember this, but that's the site that Richard...OctaneGuy...started with Mike Phillips. Mike left Meguiar's briefly and the two worked together before Mike went back to Meguiar's (maybe when he writes his autobiography he'll tell us what happened there). After Mike left it changed to Show Car Detailing, and then OctaneGuy came out with Black Wow and I don't know what happened to him now.

Anyway, back to grout sponges it seems it took until 2006 to really get rolling as an idea, and by 2007 it was just an accepted wash media, but turned out to be a fad that died out until the BRS. BTW, all the reasons stated for using a grout sponge back then are the same being touted for the wash sponges now.

The sea sponge talk started earlier, seems around 2002, but those never really got that popular because of the sand and seashell fragments. Apparently CMA used to sell them. I guess they (sea sponges) were around before forums, since CMA was a catalog company from before the internet (and Autogeek's partner on the Pinnacle line at that time). I'm trying to remember if I ever had one, maybe I will find one in the back of a drawer some day.
 
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