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Ok so after a little research i finally got some stuff.

The stuff i got locally are :

- Clay magic kit.
- Invisible glass
- Vroom microfiber towels
- blue magic leather cleaner ( is that any good ? or should i return it)

My car is Audi a4 Dolphin gray with black interior.

Now thats what i want to order from AG :)

Finally, a kit combining the best of both worlds--taking your vehicle to the highest achievable level of excellence- Pinnacle - Wolfgang Souveran Kit

Klasse AIO, klasse all in one 10 ounce, klasse all in one polish, klasse acrylic polish

303 Aerospace Protectant, 303 aerospace, 303 protectant, aerospace protectant, 303 products, 303

Will 303 protectant work good for hard rubber trim on doors and for interior (dashboard etc) ?

I also need some good GLAZE to cover up some swirl marks and make the car GLOSSY :)


Thanks for help i am gonna take an order as soon i get some advices :)

 
I know I am a newbie here...but wouldn't you rather get a polish to correct the swirls/holograms rather than cover them up??

I know that's why I just placed my order to get my Edge/PC kit.

Regardless, I've read that the AIO is a great product. Also, I've been using the WG and Souveran for a short while and it is a very impressive combo. Really adds another level to my bright red paint.

-Matt
 
Well you are probably right but i have no expiernce with PC what so ever.

And also i would need to add another 200$ for polishes and PC.


So for now i wanna cover it up and when i get some money i might buy PC.


Ok what about glaze and other stuff ?

Waiting for some pro answers thanks :)
 
Gotcha...I just ordered my PC and can't wait to start.

As far as covering up the swirls, I think that the WG-Pinnacle kit you've got has a polish enhancer with no cutting ability that should fill up the swirls pretty well.

I'll step aside and let the pros answer though...

Good luck and get some pictures...

-Matt
 
You have a few redundant products on your order. In the Wolfgang / Souveran kit you receive the Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer which virtually does the same thing as Klasse AIO. Also, using Souveran on an unpolished vehicle won't yield spectacular results. Polishing and prep is key to having a nice finish. The 303 will be fine for all plastics and vinyl around the car.

If you want to save some money and remove the swirls, get a PC kit that comes with polishes and skip out on the Souveran /Wolfgang kit. For ease of use you can't beat the XMT or Poorboy's SSR PC kits. Once the vehicle is polished you can use a glaze (Poorboy's White Diamond) and top that with your choice of sealant or wax. On silver and gray you can't beat Four Star UPP. If you feel the need for a paste wax, Poorboy's Natty's or Pinnacle Sig Series II may be better suited. Or if you still want the Souveran, go for that. Hopefully this wasn't too confusing for you ...
 
Well the thing is i am scared to use PC.

Could you please put some nice setup with PC ?

Like everthing that i would need to clean polish and protect the paint ?

Also side of my car was painted thats the biggest concern about using polishing products with PC.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

PC kit

Or

Wolfgang kit

"to be or not to be" :)

BTW I just used CLAY MAGIC on overspray i had and OMG this thing is absolutely amazing. Overspray came off like it was nothing :) !!
 
I have only small swirl marks. And another 200$ for PC is kinda alot for me right now.

So i think i will just stick to what i picked + some nice glaze.

But i never used any of these products so i dont know how its gonna look like without polishing.

What do you guys think ?

Can you apply sealant after Four Star UPP ?

Wait i am confused.

is Four star UPP a glaze or sealant.

Also what product will hide imperfections best and add most shine ?

Thank You :)
 
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antekaudi said:
I have only small swirl marks. And another 200$ for PC is kinda alot for me right now.

So i think i will just stick to what i picked + some nice glaze.

But i never used any of these products so i dont know how its gonna look like without polishing.

What do you guys think ?

Can you apply sealant after Four Star UPP ?

Wait i am confused.

is Four star UPP a glaze or sealant.

Also what product will hide imperfections best and add most shine ?

Thank You :)
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Four Star UPP is a sealant, as is the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant (in your kit). You mentioned you don't want to spend the money on a PC yet you seem like you want an $85 wax, which won't look its best unless your car is polished ... other waxes are going to look similar for a fraction of the price, unless you polish. And again, Klasse AIO is not needed if you buy the kit B/C of the Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer which will also suffice as a glaze. So you can buy the kit and be good to go, or piece together your own kit which will take more research, but may save some money in your case.
 
I was thinking to use klasse on glass and wheels.

Thanks for your advice.

Ok you are convincing me to buy PC.

Can you put some nice kit for me ?

So i can protect glass and wheels also. My wheels have polished aluminium lip and they have clear coat on.

I have meguairs gold wash + conditioner.

I need some nice setup to remove swirls, protect the pain and make it SHINE :)

Lets say i can spend ~ 300$

Thanks :)
 
KAIO is a paint cleaner.a very good 1 may i add.after washing my white GTP with gold class soap,clay baring the car, the white lakecountry ccs pad on pc still turned brown.it actually made my white car whiter.lol.i no thats not a word but o well.
as for swirlremover/polishes...alot of people here live by menzerna either IP & FP(intense polish & final polish) or they use menzerna SIP & 106ff(super intense polish & nano polish).from wat i read the SIP and 106ff work better on harder clear coats.another swirlremover/polish you can look into is the new wolfgang formulas.they teamed up with menzerna and came out with swirlremover 3.0 and finishing glaze 3.0.both of which i got samples of but havent had the time to use them.but so far they r getting great reasults and are being closesly compared to the menzerna polishes.
as for sealants you will see alot of people use either collinite 845 or Duragloss TPP 105.845 hazes clear from what my buddy showed me but its not hard to remove.just hard to see at times.but just remember to use very little per application.
now if u want a beauty wax most people here will say souveran.i havent had any personal experience with paste souveran but i absolutely love the effect of the cheaper version(liquid Souveran.)now these waxes only last a month give or take on the conditions.
from reading so much i realize u cant just wax or put sealant down on a car.you should either use a paint cleaner or go through the steps and use polish or swirlremover & polish if needed.
a porter cable with a few Lake country pads is a great investment
All of these products can be found on autogeek.
 
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antekaudi said:
Ok i asked dubmen3 for help. (really nice guy)

And we put a kit together.

XMT Light Swirl Remover Complete Kit by Pinnacle: For your dual action or rotary polisher.

+

Porter Cable 7424 Car Buffer, 7424 Polisher

+

Dual-Action Hook & Loop Flexible Backing Plate 6"

(Isnt that to big for the pads in the kit ?)

+

Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax #845

(Is this a good product for Dark Gray Audi ?)


Am i missing something guys ?

Hey almost there :)

Thanks
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if the kit comes with 6.5" pads then no its fine.however u cant use 5.5" pads on a 6inch backing plate.Collinite 845 is a good sealer wax.my friends has seen 5 months of protectiong even through winter(i live in pittsburgh).how ever his car is garaged at night.
 
I dont care that much about lasting cause i can reapply every month or so.

I care about the shine the deepness etc :)


This forum is addicting.
 
antekaudi said:
I dont care that much about lasting cause i can reapply every month or so.

I care about the shine the deepness etc :)


This forum is addicting.
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if thats the case.either liquid souveran or paste souveran...or u could use Signature series II.buy a bottle of KAIO though and use it the same way as souveran.VERY LITTLE GOES A LONG WAY.u can use KAIO before u apply ur wax if ur paint doesnt need paint correction.
 
Update + couple questions.

1) wash
2) clay bar
3) wash it again ? or rinse it with water ?
4) KAIO ?
5) xmt polishes
6) xmt glaze
7) Here i need some nice product to TOP it.

I was thinking about manzerna but from what i heard i will have hard time removing it with PC ? Is that true ?

Thanks
 
antekaudi said:
Update + couple questions.

1) wash
2) clay bar
3) wash it again ? or rinse it with water ?
4) KAIO ?
5) xmt polishes
6) xmt glaze
7) Here i need some nice product to TOP it.

I was thinking about manzerna but from what i heard i will have hard time removing it with PC ? Is that true ?

Thanks
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step 3 can b done either way.some people wash again while others like myself just rinse.
step 7 if u want a deep gloss wax that needs to b applied monthly then like i said before.souveran.(liquid or paste)
What menzerna product are you talking about thats hard to be removed while useing a PC?
 
I dont know.

Overall i heard they are more for rotary's.

I am probably wrong though.
 
antekaudi said:
I dont know.

Overall i heard they are more for rotary's.

I am probably wrong though.
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the menzerna polishes that i listed on that long list of products that i suggested work great with the PC, UDM, or flex.so im not really sure what menzeran product ur refering to.
 
Wow, so its KAIO then swirl remover? I would think it would be swirl remover then KAIO then glaze....

Can't KAIO be used as the swirl remover? I was thinking of just getting the Klasse AIO and Klasse sealant instead of that and wolfgang swirl remover and glaze 3.0. Trying to save some money here. Potentially saving me $50.

I have various vehicles with all types of paint damage, I'm still a noob
 
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