New Fuzion Mini

Not as glossy as my Malco wax for 30 bux and it doesn't bead at all anymore. Told them it would last for at least 3 months.. Didn't last a month.. This was my first time with this product. Its very oily but to be honest Megs gold class looks better... The whole time I was sitting there like " this is it ?" Not impressed the least bit with it. Turtle wax would have been better then this buy. Could the freeze do anything to the oil and wax, even though we were told it was perfectly fine. I would love to try a mini to see if there is a difference any chance on getting a sample Autogeek?
 
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They original fuzion is one solid color. The frozen fuzion had off white patches on it.
 
Interesting, my mini has white patches on the top surface. I believe once I get through the top layer from using it though it'll probably be red throughout.

Does anyone know if Fuzion has a cure time for it to get it's durability? Like wait a certain amount of time before wiping off, and then waiting at least a certain amount of time without letting the car touch water or dew for it to fully cure? DGPS 3.0 has this type of requirement, maybe Fuzion does too being a synthetic blend.
 
bcwang said:
Interesting, my mini has white patches on the top surface. I believe once I get through the top layer from using it though it'll probably be red throughout.

Does anyone know if Fuzion has a cure time for it to get it's durability? Like wait a certain amount of time before wiping off, and then waiting at least a certain amount of time without letting the car touch water or dew for it to fully cure? DGPS 3.0 has this type of requirement, maybe Fuzion does too being a synthetic blend.
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Fuzion is a wowo wax. You can do the complete car and then go back to remove, but that will not add any durability. 3.0 is a sealant and requires cure time for the polymers to cross link.
 
Did you clean the paint bare before you applied Fuzion? Maybe something left behind like polishing oil prevented a good bond. Why don't you tell us your detailing steps for those customers.

It would be good if we could all figure out what the problem is so we can avoid it in the future.
 
loudog2 said:
They original fuzion is one solid color. The frozen fuzion had off white patches on it.
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All colored hand poured waxes will have some patches on top, its just from the cooling process.
 
Meghan said:
All colored hand poured waxes will have some patches on top, its just from the cooling process.
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I'll stand mute on the differences. The 2 seemed different, not just the patches. That was the first time I used one of the frozen batches. I've been using my original til then.
 
loudog2 said:
I thought it was just me, but I did notice a little difference in the waxes. I did my car with my original fuzion, then used the froze one on my girlfriends. I'll try to pinpoint the difference. The frozen one didn't seem as glossy after buffing it off, and application seemed more oily. Maybe it was just me. But I decided to try them after seeing post of people having issues with the frozen batch.
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I bought the Frozen Special too, personally It was very disappointing, I thought that I had finally met the ultimate car wax, it was very oily and the gloss...well, for the amount I paid I wasn't too bothered with, but if I had paid $175.00 for it, then I would have been alittle ticked off....but for $50.00 I cant complain too much.....I even re-melted the wax...same results....oh well, we live and learn everyday !!
 
Wendell Jarvis said:
I bought the Frozen Special too, personally It was very disappointing, I thought that I had finally met the ultimate car wax, it was very oily and the gloss...well, for the amount I paid I wasn't too bothered with, but if I had paid $175.00 for it, then I would have been alittle ticked off....but for $50.00 I cant complain too much.....I even re-melted the wax...same results....oh well, we live and learn everyday !!
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I am very happy with my original(non frozen). The look is outstanding. I wasn't trying to open a can of worms here. I was just stating what I noticed. I knowingly bought a damaged product, so I'm not blaming AG. But like you stated Wendell, the application ws more oily than usual, and the gloss wsn't the same.
 
loudog2 said:
I am very happy with my original(non frozen). The look is outstanding. I wasn't trying to open a can of worms here. I was just stating what I noticed. I knowingly bought a damaged product, so I'm not blaming AG. But like you stated Wendell, the application ws more oily than usual, and the gloss wsn't the same.
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I feel the same way Loudog, I am not that upset either, if I was I would have posted a comment as soon as I discovered that it wasn't all that, which has been several months ago. I still have plenty of Love for AG and their products and will always continue to earn my business.
 
turbogst12000 said:
How long does this wax last? i thought it was supposed to last for like 6 months.
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I do not recall reading any claims about six month durability. May I ask who told you this. I have been under the impression that the average durability of Fuzion is 8 to 12 weeks--i.e., more than Souveran but less than Collinite; but now that I think about it, I'm not sure why I made this inference. I just did a Google search of the AutoGeek site, and I find very few estimates of Fuzion's durability, though I find a lot of people asking the question. Based on its synthetic ingredients, everyone appears to believe that it is more durable than Souveran (what isn't?); but there doesn't appear to be any data or even anecdotal testimony to support what has been my impression of 8-12 weeks. Maybe I just made that up in my head. I do not find through the Google search any suggestions or evidence that Fuzion will typically last 4 to 6 months. The Wolfgang website, though, does state that it will last for "months." I do not recall if I read this claim before today or not. An expectation, therefore, that Fuzion will typically last more than two months does not seem unreasonable.

I agree with you that one month durability is indeed disappointing. And you say that the wax failed in such a short time for six of seven of your customers? That is more than disappointing. Perhaps we all need to revise our durability expectations.

I have not had occasion to test Fuzion's durability. It did last a month for me and appeared to be going strong; but I cut it short by applying a coat of Souveran. I like how Fuzion looked on my car, and I like how easy it was to apply and remove.

Cheers,
Al
 
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I thought it said it under the top of the lid or somewhere else. I was asking the question because even at the discounted price the wax sucked.. Everyone got about 3 weeks out of it... once customer with a 7 series was really pissed off. what got me is most of the customers I did they park there cars in the garage... I am sorry for something so pricey it should have looked better and last a lot longer than 3 weeks. 7 series got washed, clayed, nano polish, final inspection over the car then 2 coats of fuzion 8hrs apart.

this discounted fuzion might as well have been express wax with gold flakes in it
 
Not bashing any product. This is just an observation.

It's kind of wild, that paste wax can retail anywhere from $5.00-$50,000, and normally doesn't last very long. Yet the best sealants (that last at least 6 months) are under 40.00. Why is that?
 
loudog2,

Since you actually have both, maybe you'd be the perfect candidate to test a trunk or something half and half and really see how different they are. AG claims being frozen doesn't affect performance in any way. If you can conclude they are different, either being frozen did something to it or the batches are just inconsistent.

I've seen many posts around the web mentioning the good durability of fuzion (3-4 months). But lately I've seen posts mentioning extremely poor durability as well, like one wash and its gone kind of poor. I really wonder what is going on here.
 
I'll give it a try soon. Unless someone in the chicago suburbs wants to give it a shot sooner. Come on over and apply some fuzion:buffing:
 
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