PCXP now or wait later?; New Vehicle

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Ok I am really tempted of getting one. I don't have any experience with this but I am really interested in this kit:

Porter Cable 7424 & Foam Pad Kit - Car Buffer

I would say that this is a great kit but it is missing the orange pad (for future swirls). I plan to use meguiars products only.

I can't decide whether to purchase this or not because I already had Permaplate applied which already costs around $500 from the dealer. I don't really know how long this products lasts...

Do you guys know if I can use Meguiars Quick Detailer on top of the Perma Plate coating?

My vehicle is still silky smooth with no major swirls or scratches.

Last question is do you guys use a terry or microfiber bonnet on the pad when you apply wax?

Thank you in advance for your answers and warm welcomes.
 
Sorry, I know nothing of Perma Plate but certainly others will. That is a good starter kit and will assist in keeping your car looking nice as well as others. A better assortment of pads will be needed either now or later. Wax is not applied using either a terry or microfiber bonnet, they are for removal not application. I prefer to hand apply/hand remove but some prefer using the machine.
 
What kind of car is it?
When was the PermaPlate applied?
I looked on their (PermaPlate) website and they don't give an explanation on how long - they make it sound like it lasts forever, which it won't.

Their site does say that any wax is ok to use on it etc. It sounds like the QD would be fine as well.

To apply wax, use a Blue or Red pad on the PC. Red's come with that kit you were looking at. They are super soft, I have a set of that same kind.

And hopefully, if you wash it and wax it correctly, you won't have any swirls that need the attention of an orange pad - a white with the right polish should keep you in good shape (if you always clean it right).

DLB
 
RTexasF said:
Sorry, I know nothing of Perma Plate but certainly others will. That is a good starter kit and will assist in keeping your car looking nice as well as others. A better assortment of pads will be needed either now or later. Wax is not applied using either a terry or microfiber bonnet, they are for removal not application. I prefer to hand apply/hand remove but some prefer using the machine.
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Thanks for your input. That is the reason I want a PC. I never tried the three step processes like cleaner, polish, and wax. I always used clay and hand by wax. I want to try to save me some time and legwork.
 
Dalton Blevins said:
What kind of car is it?
When was the PermaPlate applied?
I looked on their (PermaPlate) website and they don't give an explanation on how long - they make it sound like it lasts forever, which it won't.

Their site does say that any wax is ok to use on it etc. It sounds like the QD would be fine as well.

To apply wax, use a Blue or Red pad on the PC. Red's come with that kit you were looking at. They are super soft, I have a set of that same kind.

And hopefully, if you wash it and wax it correctly, you won't have any swirls that need the attention of an orange pad - a white with the right polish should keep you in good shape (if you always clean it right).

DLB
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I appreciate your reply. BTW, I bought the 2009 Odyssey on April and had Permaplate applied before delivery. So far I have applied the Permaplate maintenance wax two months ago.

What is QD?

Thanks about the explanation of the pads. That really helps a lot.
 
blackoddy said:
I appreciate your reply. BTW, I bought the 2009 Odyssey on April and had Permaplate applied before delivery. So far I have applied the Permaplate maintenance wax two months ago.
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That's one of they key's to keeping or maintaining any car finish and that's to find something you like and use it often. (See Sig Line).


blackoddy said:
What is QD?
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QD is the generic acronym for quick detailer. A quick detailer is a mist & wipe product for removing light dust, fingerprints and smudges.



:)
 
hi everybody from texas, just bought a new car and was wondering if need to use clay bar, then prewax cleaner, then sealant, then carnauba wax?
 
molarman said:
hi everybody from texas, just bought a new car and was wondering if need to use clay bar, then prewax cleaner, then sealant, then carnauba wax?
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Just posted a reply to you in another "Intro Thread".

Here's the nutshell answer,

with a new car, first wash it and then feel the paint to see if it needs to be clayed, theoretically a brand new car shouldn't need anything but sadly that's not always the case, so wash and dry the car and then feel the horizontal surfaces and check to see if you feel little bumps. If you do then you need to clay the paint with detailing clay like this,

Now that the car is clean and dry we can inspect the paint by feeling the horizontal surfaces for above surface bonded contaminants as well as inspect it visually for defects like swirls, scratches and etchings.

Usually only the horizontal surfaces need to be clayed because that's where air-borne contaminants will land and accumulate over time and if not removed within a day or two, at least some contaminants will bond to the surface.
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You can if you like inspect the vertical surfaces too as it is possible to accumulate contaminants like air-borne paint overspray, highway paint, tar and tree sap on these panels.
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I have more to post to help you but it would really be better if you don't mind to start your own thread here,

Auto Detailing Forum


Just copy and paste what you already typed and add a title like

What to do for a new car?

in the subject line


:)
 
If you don't have to clay or even if you do, afterwards you would inspect the paint visually for things like swirls, scratches and etchings. Try to get the car into bright sunlight, (if that's possible), and then look at the horizontal surfaces.

New car dealerships are famous for what we call DISO which means,

Dealer Installed Swirl Option

That's where they let their in-house detailer incorrectly buff out the paint and you end up with swirls in a brand new car.

So after washing the car inspect the finish for swirls, scratches and etchings and if discovered the let this be guide as to which products you use next. Post your results after washing the car and inspecting the finish both with your sense of touch and visually and then we'll do our best to see you through to success.

:)
 
To really test for the amount of contaminants put your hand is a sandwich bag and lightly rub it across your paint, it seems to really make your hands more sensitive to the contaminants.
 
It seems like all new cars need to be clayed now a days
 
GMC83 said:
It seems like all new cars need to be clayed now a days
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That's what I heard.
I have a 1.5 month old black 09 RAV4 that I'm going to do the bag test on after this weekend's wash.

BTW: what's 'rail dust'? Something from train rails that the vehicle might have been exposed to during it's trip from Japan to the dealer's location?
 
MisterShark said:
That's what I heard.
I have a 1.5 month old black 09 RAV4 that I'm going to do the bag test on after this weekend's wash.

BTW: what's 'rail dust'? Something from train rails that the vehicle might have been exposed to during it's trip from Japan to the dealer's location?
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Silly - there isn't a train rail from Japan to the US yet...:D

You are right though. It is just what it sounds like. Little metal flakes of dust that your vehicle can accumulate during transport.

I just read where the new VW plant going in here in Chattanooga is going to be one of the highest rail transporting plants in the world. They have access to two rail lines, so if you buy a new VW coming out of Chattanooga in the next few years, it will be a clay candidate.

I assume though that very few cars don't need it now just because of all the junk they go through from manufacturing floor to dealer lot.

DLB
 
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