Wax or Silicone in Meguiars Concentraite Glass Cleaner (D120)

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Wax or Silicone in Meguiars Concentrate Glass Cleaner (D120)

Hi Mike,

I'm hoping you can answer this one for me since you're the man from Meguiar's.

Does the Meguiar's Glass Cleaner Concentrate contain either Silicone or Wax?

I am currently using (AND ABSOLUTELY LOVING!) DP Crystal Vision, but I am already halfway through the bottle and am worried about running out. Unfortunately as I live in New Zealand, shipping from Autogeek is expensive and shipping a gallon of Crystal vision will be too expensive. (I order my gallons when I have family visiting the USA which is quite often, but it's not going to be before I run out of Crystal Vision).

I can purchase a gallon of the Meguiar's Glass Cleaner here locally and have decided to go with it because I know that other members on this forum do like it. My main concern is that most of the other glass cleaners that are available contain either Wax or Silicone in them to make the glass shine.

These clog the pores of the windshield glass and make the wipers smear and fog when used (to stop this I have to deep clean the glass).

Does the Meguiar's glass cleaner contain either a wax or silicone based substance?

Thanks,
Matt.
 
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O so absolutely EVERYTHING in their detailer line is bodyshop safe and wax and silicone free.

That's really good to know, thanks Mike! :props:Im the MAN
 
Matt said:
O so absolutely EVERYTHING in their detailer line is bodyshop safe and wax and silicone free.

That's really good to know, thanks Mike! :props:Im the MAN
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I don't think that assumption is correct as they do have waxes in their detailer line that would not be bodyshop safe.

Mike
 
Oh yup, haha, just the products that are "body shop safe".

Thanks for pointing that out:dblthumb2:
 
Matt said:
Oh yup, haha, just the products that are "body shop safe".

Thanks for pointing that out:dblthumb2:
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Oops. It went completely over my head that you were trying to make a point with Mike Phillips because he mentioned that the "Glass Cleaner Concentrate" in the detailer line is "body shop safe" all in the same statement.

Please accept my apologies for posting.

Mike Phillips, Please readdress your post for Matt

Thank you,
Mike
 
Mikejl said:
Oops. It went completely over my head that you were trying to make a point with Mike Phillips because he mentioned that the "Glass Cleaner Concentrate" in the detailer line is "body shop safe" all in the same statement.

Please accept my apologies for posting.

Mike Phillips, Please readdress your post for Matt

Thank you,
Mike
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Don't worry, I don't think you've said anything wrong.
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Meguiar's Glass Cleaner Concentrate in their Detailer Line is "Body Shop Safe", this means it's wax and silicone free.
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Just to clarify, the questions from Matt was,

Matt said:
Does the Meguiar's Glass Cleaner Concentrate contain either Silicone or Wax?
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And my answer specifically only referred to the Glass Cleaner Concentrate in their Detailer Line. There are some other products in Meguiar's Detailer Line that are body shop safe, but not all of the products in their Detailer Line are as Mike aka Mikejl pointed out, there are some waxes in the Detailer Line and car waxes and paint sealants aren't generally considered safe for use in fresh paint environments whether they contain silicone or not.

Just to note, any ingredient that causes surface adhesion problems would not be safe in a fresh paint environment, for example, anything that makes water bead up on cured paint would tend to want to make fresh paint bead-up on a primered panel, thus the paint would have a surface adhesion problem. Lot's of people get hung-up on silicone when it's really only an issue right before your car is pushed into the paint booth to have fresh paint sprayed on the panel and at that point it's not just silicone, it's ANY substance, (finger oils for example), that would cause surface adhesion problems.

The question was about a specific product and my answer was specific to that product.

Does that help?


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Thanks for clarifying that Mike.

So I understand that if it's "body shop safe" then it doesn't contain any oils of any kind that will give surface adhesion problems.

I was asking because any oil on the windshield affects how the windshield wipers work, but usually there are no finger oils in glass cleaners where silicone and wax are common.

I appreciate you clearing that up for me Mike.

Many Thanks,
Matt.
 
Matt said:
but usually there are no finger oils in glass cleaners
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I used finger oils as an example because in the context of a body shop at some point the people that work there 'touch things' and for this reason they pay close attention to the final prep of a car body or panel before spraying paint. It was just one example of a type of contaminant that could cause a surface adhesion problem.


Matt said:
but usually there are no finger oils in glass cleaners where silicone and wax are common.
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I didn't know wax and silicone are common ingredients in glass cleaners? That's why I'm always telling others including myself to be open to new information.

If you're happy with the glass cleaner you're already maybe keep on using it. The Megs glass cleaner in their Detailer Line is Body Shop Safe, what the actual ingredients are I have no idea, might what to ask Meguiar's that question. I usually keep the focus on the performance of the product, not the ingredients in the formula, which is usually proprietary information. I also do my very best to choose my words very carefully when posting to forums and my first answer to the question brought up in this thread is still accurate.


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Re: Wax or Silicone in Meguiars Concentrate Glass Cleaner (D120)

Thanks Mike.

I see what you mean by using it as an example.

A lot of glass cleaners (well the non automotive, "household" glass cleaners) contain either wax or silicone because it leaves the glass shiny and aids in helping the product to not streak when wiped off.

You'll see the effect of a glass cleaner that contains either of these substances by cleaning a glass window that is 100% clean, as in it doesn't bead water, rather absorbs it, that after cleaning it 1-2 times using a silicone containing glass cleaner the glass now beads water. When a windshield wiper is wiping across a window, it will leave the window dry and clear as soon as the rubber has passed that area. With silicone or wax on the glass, you'll see it becomes sort of foggy or streaky, and takes a second or two before the glass is crystal clear again. The silicone clogs the microscopic pores of the glass and that is why you can't remove it by just doing an alcohol wipe down.

The way I remove this is by using a water spot remover (like the glass scrub stuff made by Glass Science) as this sort of product can clean out the glass pores.

I was happy with the performance of the glass cleaners I used before but couldn't use them on the outside of the windshield because of this. I am currently using DP Crystal Vision (and absolutely LOVE it), but the shipping is too expensive for me to order a gallon of this unless I have family visiting America as they can bring it back for me.

That's why I wanted to find an alternative until I can get some more Crystal Vision.

Thanks for your open ears on this Mike, I really appreciate it.

Cheers,
Matt
 
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