PR: Wolfgang line and Dodo Juice Mello Yellow Rim Cleaner

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Exterior:
Wolfgang Auto Bath
$19.99
This product is great at cleaning and removing hard to get thing off like bugs ect. I mixed 2oz. of Auto Bathe with 5 gallons of water. It gets nice a suddy. I used the Mothers’ Wool Mitt to clean the vehicle and it removed everything. I used the Pinnacle Bug sponge on the front bumper with the Auto Bathe it didn't require an elbow grease to remove the bugs. This has else become one of my favorite Car Wash Soaps. On the other hand it is a little on the pricy side.

Wolfgang Poly Clay
$29.99
This clay bar is medium grade clay. It did an excellent job removing all the contaminant that was on the paint surface. I have you this clay on many vehicles even white on with plenty of rail dust on the vehicle. Every time I have used this clay it has taken 90% of the contaminants off the paint. On the other hand it would be nice is Wolfgang came out with a little more aggressive clay for those really soiled cars.

Wolfgang Sprits Quick Detail -
$19.99
This product is great not only as a QD but also as a Clay Lubricant. I use this on my truck daily to remove any dust of dirty that may have gotten on the vehicle the day before. Not only does it make the paint glisten in the sun but it also helps the wax and sealant last longer. If you do not want to wash your vehicle weekly then use this QD everyday to every other day. It will take you about 5 minutes to go over the whole vehicle. Also another plus to this product is that if you apply it right there is little to no streaking.

Rims, Tires, Exhaust Tips
Dodo Juice Rim Cleaner - I was very disappointed in there rim cleaner. The products dries way to fast (rims where cool and I was working in the shade) The wheels I was working on were super dirty and by the time I was done cleaning the rim and I rinsed them off it would leave dirt residue all over the rim. I had to wash the front rims 2-3 times to get them completely clean. I would not recommend this product to anyone that will be cleaning really soiled rims. Stick to Pinnacle or P21S

Wolfgang Poly Clay - Did a great job removing that hard to get caked on brake. it still left some behind. So it would be nice if Wolfgang could come out with a more aggressive clay to.
Steel Wool and Mother all purpose metal polish for the exhaust tips

Interior:
Griot Garage Interior Cleaner

Wolfgang Leather Care Cleaner
$19.99
This product cleaned the leather with ease. The red leather seats in this car had some black marks and were really dirty. This leather cleaner cleaned them and had them looking new again and ready for the conditioner.

Wolfgang Leather Care Conditioner
$29.99
This is a great leather conditioner I goes on easy with a foam or microfiber applicator and it not sticky or have a high glossy look to it. Also after applying it, it does not leave a bad smell in the car like some leather conditioners do. It really gives the leather a nice rich look to it and brings out the color very well.

Wolfgang Carpet and Upholstery Restore
$19.99
I used this on the BMW logo on the drive side carpet. It easily turned the brown logo to silver with 2 quick strokes of the brush. So far this product works great. I will be trying this product on a light color carpet soon.

Paint Correction and LSP:
Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3.0
$19.99 8oz.
I used the flex light weight with LC 6'' orange CCS pad. I started at 1500rpm then brought it down to 1000rpm. It left the paint finish flawless. Since I was using a rotary buffer there were halo's left in the paint. But if your using a DA polisher you could definitely use this as a one step polish. It finishes pretty nice.

Just for fun I wanted to see one this vehicle how TSR would hold up against the big dog M105. They both took all the swirls out of the finish. The only difference that I could find TSR left a nicer finish to work with. So for this car I would have to say that the TSR worked better then the M105 (by leaving a better finish to work with).
** Results may vary on different vehicles due to the condition of the paint and the toughness of the clear coat. Some vehicles may require a stronger product then TSR so please do a test spot before going over the whole vehicle, to find that your product of chose did not work.

Wolfgang Finishing Glaze
$19.99 8oz.
I used the flex light weight with LC white flat pad at 1000 rpm. I applied light to moderate pressure working the product into the paint till it was clear. This left the paint with no holograms and really brought out the metallic flakes in the paint. I would have to say that this product definitely finishes much better than M205.

Wolfgang Fusion
$175
I was amazing how little wax it took to cover the whole car. I applied it over the whole car then I started vacuuming the interior of the car. I left the wax on the car for about an hour and it was so easy to take off. I was amazed on the dept it gave me in the black paint. It was my first time using Fuzion and it have become my new favorite was next to Pinnacle Souveran. I was skeptic about paying $175 for a wax but now I know why it is priced so high because it will m

 

[DLB]

Thanks for the review.
I want to try the leather products mentioned and of course the swirl remover twins. Nice to see they get good reviews.

I just can't help but wonder though - when comparing the TSR 3.0 against the M105, it isn't as aggressive is it?

I understand that it would probably remove most swirls on most vehicles, but giving the difference in the jump from compound to heavy polish, I would still think more (heavier) correction could be achieved with the M105.

DLB

 

[sullysdetailing]

Thanks for the review.
I want to try the leather products mentioned and of course the swirl remover twins. Nice to see they get good reviews.

I just can't help but wonder though - when comparing the TSR 3.0 against the M105, it isn't as aggressive is it?

I understand that it would probably remove most swirls on most vehicles, but giving the difference in the jump from compound to heavy polish, I would still think more (heavier) correction could be achieved with the M105.

DLB

The Black BMW I was working on was pretty bad. I will all be tring it on a hacked H2 SUT this coming up weekend. To me it is close if not the same as M105. All I used before TSR was M105 and SIP. The TSR falls somewhere in the middle. To me is finished nicer then M105 and made it really easy to polish. The Finshing glaze was also great but i had the old white fomula and when I poured this onto my pad it was purple and really gritty kind through me off guard so I called Mike Phillips to make sure the bottles were not labeled wrong and they weren't so I continued working.

Even working on this black car I could of stopped after then TSR and not continue to the Finishing Glaze but since I was writing the review I finshed with the Finshing Glaze. I taught that hte finsh couldn't get any better after the TSR and boy was I wrong.

Also I wish there was more sun out when I finished but it was 5pm and since it get dark around 6:30 I didnt have much to work with but the Fuzion really lets the metalic flake pop.

 

[DLB]

Thanks for your in-depth reply Shawn.

DLB

 

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Np I am glad to write them and will continue doing so. Hopefully these write up will lead people to try a new product they wouldnt have tried before reading the review

 

[ASPHALT ROCKET]

Can you please explain to me how you came to the conclussion that TSR is just as good or if not better than 105. When one is a compound and one is a medium type polish, one has non-diminishing abrasives and the other has diminishing abrasives. In my use of both products they are not even comparable.

 

[loudog2]

Can you please explain to me how you came to the conclussion that TSR is just as good or if not better than 105. When one is a compound and one is a medium type polish, one has non-diminishing abrasives and the other has diminishing abrasives. In my use of both products they are not even comparable.

:whslease explain

 

[Harleyguy]

I think we should take a look at this chart and compare the two products.
Autogeek Swirl Removers & Compounds Comparison Chart
And IMO this chart is close to what each product can do.But using all three of these products.I don't feel that TSR should be so high up on the scale maybe a 5 .The 105 is were it belongs.I used the TSR on my vette and another members vette in my car club just to make sure my paint and his were the same.
The paint laughed at the the TSR not that the TSR isn't a great product it was just the tough clear coat.
I them moved right up too the 105 on a rotary using wool and that is what made the difference.
So i just don't feel they are even close at all.

 

[unclestu]

The Black BMW I was working on was pretty bad. I will all be tring it on a hacked H2 SUT this coming up weekend. To me it is close if not the same as M105. All I used before TSR was M105 and SIP. The TSR falls somewhere in the middle. To me is finished nicer then M105 and made it really easy to polish. The Finshing glaze was also great but i had the old white fomula and when I poured this onto my pad it was purple and really gritty kind through me off guard so I called Mike Phillips to make sure the bottles were not labeled wrong and they weren't so I continued working.

Even working on this black car I could of stopped after the nTSR and not continue to the Finishing Glaze but since I was writing the review I finshed with the Finshing Glaze. I taught that hte finsh couldn't get any better after the TSR and boy was I wrong.

Also I wish there was more sun out when I finished but it was 5pm and since it get dark around 6:30 I didnt have much to work with but the Fuzion really lets the metalic flake pop.

If you thought that the finish couldn't get any nicer after the TSR I thought the same thing after the wfg until I then finished it even further with the Menz 85rd on a blue pad with my Flex. Now that is finished. Get it done with the 85rd

 

[sullysdetailing]

Can you please explain to me how you came to the conclussion that TSR is just as good or if not better than 105. When one is a compound and one is a medium type polish, one has non-diminishing abrasives and the other has diminishing abrasives. In my use of both products they are not even comparable.

I understand what you are saying if you read my second post I said it falls inbetween M105 and SIP. I used both M105 and TSR to see the diffrence on this BMW and both removed all of the swirls the only difference I could see was that TSR finished nicer. The clear coat on the 135i wasn't that tough. That is why I said what I my first and second post. I will try TSR on diffrent types of clear coat and I will write another review.

 

[ASPHALT ROCKET]

I understand what you are saying if you read my second post I said it falls inbetween M105 and SIP. I used both M105 and TSR to see the diffrence on this BMW and both removed all of the swirls the only difference I could see was that TSR finished nicer. The clear coat on the 135i wasn't that tough. That is why I said what I my first and second post. I will try TSR on diffrent types of clear coat and I will write another review.

I understand that, but what you said was that you found it to be just as good if not better. So now you are saying that TSR worked just as well on the vehicle as 105. You need to say that on this vehicle I used TSR and 105 and found that they both removed the light swirls, not that TSR is better or just as good because one is a compound and one is a medium polish. When making a claim that one is just as good you need to put both polish/compound in their rightful enviroment. Like, use 105 as a compund and then use tsr on that same car and then give us an explanation. A better comparison would be 205 in this case. If you had light marring there is no need to try 105 but 205 since that would be an equal comparison. Also how can TSR be inbetween 105 and SIP, how did you come to that conclussion when it is listed as the same on the AG polish chart? Plus I am still asking how you can compare a polish to a compound, when they are in this instance, two totally different animals? Also why would you go with such a harsh product with light marring? I am just trying to understand your rationale behind this comparison. Looking forward to your answers of these questions.

 

[sullysdetailing]

Autogeek Swirl Removers & Compounds Comparison Chart

You are right, SIP and TSR are both Heavy Swirl Removers, but what it come down to is how both product finsh. IMO TSR finishes much better then SIP. Again yes M105 is a heavy compound while SIP and TSR are heavy swirl removers, but again on this vehicle TSR finished much nice then M105 so it gets a higher rating in my book for this project. I'm sorry that I did not make that 100% clear in the right up. I will edit it right now for you.

 

[ASPHALT ROCKET]

Autogeek Swirl Removers & Compounds Comparison Chart

You are right, SIP and TSR are both Heavy Swirl Removers, but what it come down to is how both product finsh. IMO TSR finishes much better then SIP. Again yes M105 is a heavy compound while SIP and TSR are heavy swirl removers, but again on this vehicle TSR finished much nice then M105 so it gets a higher rating in my book for this project. I'm sorry that I did not make that 100% clear in the right up. I will edit it right now for you.

I would hope that TSR finished down better than a compound but with the right pad 105 will finish just as well if not better. Also as asked in my earlier post, why would you use 105 instead of 205 if you are going to make a comparison. Also when doing the comparison you should also explain what pads used with each product to explain why you feel one didn't work as well as the other, this way someone that has used said product can offer advice not only for you but for the whole forum so they will not think TSR is going to do what 105 can. When reading your review you basically are saying that TSR can do what 105 can, is this what you are claiming. I am still not clear on that, because once again this are two totally different polishes and you do not work them the same, so maybe the technique is the cause.

 

[acc1079]

I am curious on the review of the Mellow Yellow. Could you give some more details such as: Did you dilute it, if so, what ratio? Did you let it dwell, if so, how long, etc. Being this is the first time I have seen a review on it, would like to have a few more details on it. Thanks.

 

[sullysdetailing]

I am curious on the review of the Mellow Yellow. Could you give some more details such as: Did you dilute it, if so, what ratio? Did you let it dwell, if so, how long, etc. Being this is the first time I have seen a review on it, would like to have a few more details on it. Thanks.

It was used at 100%. I used it right out of the Dodo Juice bottle. Also the way the bottle was made it is really hard to spray the wheels and tire. With Pinnacle, Wolfgang, DP, P21S, ect you can spray the whole rim in 2-3 sprays, but you can not do that with Dodo Juice. To be honest they need to do a little more research before they release it. Its in a cool bottle that is hard to spray and smells good that is about all it can do.

 

[sullysdetailing]

I would hope that TSR finished down better than a compound but with the right pad 105 will finish just as well if not better. Also as asked in my earlier post, why would you use 105 instead of 205 if you are going to make a comparison. Also when doing the comparison you should also explain what pads used with each product to explain why you feel one didn't work as well as the other, this way someone that has used said product can offer advice not only for you but for the whole forum so they will not think TSR is going to do what 105 can. When reading your review you basically are saying that TSR can do what 105 can, is this what you are claiming. I am still not clear on that, because once again this are two totally different polishes and you do not work them the same, so maybe the technique is the cause.

I compared TSR and M105 because they are the most aggressive for both companies. Yes TSR and M105 are in different categories but so is TSR and M205. If you are saying it is not right to compare TSR to M105 then that means it is also not right to compare TSR and M205. What I stayed in the review was my opinion about this vehicle. While working on different vehicles and clear coats your results my vary.

 

[ASPHALT ROCKET]

I compared TSR and M105 because they are the most aggressive for both companies. Yes TSR and M105 are in different categories but so is TSR and M205. If you are saying it is not right to compare TSR to M105 then that means it is also not right to compare TSR and M205. What I stayed in the review was my opinion about this vehicle. While working on different vehicles and clear coats your results my vary.

Well the 205 is Megs is finishing type so it would be correct to use that against TSR. I still don't understand your reasoning, you were using the most aggressive from each company, dont you think comparing two prodcuts int he same catagory would be a better test. What you are saying is that you are putting truck up against a passenger car. If you want to make a true comaprsion you would put two trucks against each, like a 1/2 ton vs a 1/2 ton.

I was not commenting on the vehicle, you were comparing products in two different catagories. Also I am still waiting on answer to my above questions in my other posts. You keep refering to the car. Plus saying different products work differently on different clears, this is were you would adjust your pad choice. Like what pads did you use on the products you reviewed above. What technique did you use with each product, because you can not use the same technique with those two products. I am still trying to get a clear answer from you on how one is better than the other, not just for me but for the forum members. If someone buys TSR expecting to take out harsh defects it is not going to do that, but by your review you are saying it works better than 105 and that will take out harsh defects. So someone is going to be upset because the TSR will not remove harsh defects like the 105.
Do you get what I am trying to get across to you now?

I am trying to get you to understand you are comparing two different animals, when doing a product test it needs to be compared to the same type of products, compound vs compound, medium polish vs medium polish.

 

[sullysdetailing]

Well the 205 is Megs is finishing type so it would be correct to use that against TSR. I still don't understand your reasoning, you were using the most aggressive from each company, don't you think comparing two products int he same category would be a better test. What you are saying is that you are putting truck up against a passenger car. If you want to make a true comaprsion you would put two trucks against each, like a 1/2 ton vs a 1/2 ton.

I was not commenting on the vehicle, you were comparing products in two different categories. Also I am still waiting on answer to my above questions in my other posts. You keep referring to the car. Plus saying different products work differently on different clears, this is were you would adjust your pad choice. Like what pads did you use on the products you reviewed above. What technique did you use with each product, because you can not use the same technique with those two products. I am still trying to get a clear answer from you on how one is better than the other, not just for me but for the forum members. If someone buys TSR expecting to take out harsh defects it is not going to do that, but by your review you are saying it works better than 105 and that will take out harsh defects. So someone is going to be upset because the TSR will not remove harsh defects like the 105.
Do you get what I am trying to get across to you now?

I am trying to get you to understand you are comparing two different animals, when doing a product test it needs to be compared to the same type of products, compound vs compound, medium polish vs medium polish.

I beg to differ on the bold-ed statement above. Please look at this thread http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...sanding-marks-griot-s-rop-wolfgang-twins.html

When removing defect there are many factors in why or why not the defect was removed.
1. the Product you used
2. Your Technique

You can use M105 the wrong way and get crappy results just like you can use TSr the wrong way and get crappy results. When using TSR you might have to go over a section 2-3 times to get all the defects out, while M105 may only take 1. But this doesn't mean that TSR cant take out harsh defects.

To answer your question both products where applied using Flex Lightweight with LC orange CCS at 1500 rpm then 1000 rpm.

 

[ASPHALT ROCKET]

So you are saying a medium polish will take out defects that a compound can then. I will give you a couple examples were you are incorrect in saying that, just look at my Lambo and Z06 threads in show and shine. They both had servere defects and SIP wouldn't touch them. A medium polish has its limits, that is why manufactors make compounds, because the medium polishes can not remove harsher defects. The link you are refering to is a small section with light wet sanding marks, I would not consider that harsh defects.

In the end like I was trying to get across to you was you need to compare products from the same catagory.

 

[sullysdetailing]

So you are saying a medium polish will take out defects that a compound can then. I will give you a couple examples were you are incorrect in saying that, just look at my Lambo and Z06 threads in show and shine. They both had servere defects and SIP wouldn't touch them. A medium polish has its limits, that is why manufactors make compounds, because the medium polishes can not remove harsher defects. The link you are refering to is a small section with light wet sanding marks, I would not consider that harsh defects.

In the end like I was trying to get across to you was you need to compare products from the same catagory.

I said I understand that. I stated that in the first post that you mentioned that, there is no need to go on and on about the same thing.