Rsurfer
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You like a pump sprayer vrs. a trigger sprayer? I just find a tigger sprayer easier to use than a pump.
FK 425 versus Optimum Instant Detailer?
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I see... I didn't know if it was the same one or not...just a guess. Yeah, it's an ok sprayer, it works. I actually really like the cheap 2 dollar sprayers I got from Wally World one day. I use it to put my ONR QD mix in.
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Yes I do. I was getting too much product with a trigger. I have more experience now and use OID in a trigger spray to aid in drying, but I have more control of a pump for last step QD or spray wax. I have learned not to point the trigger at the opaint now and spray above and let settlle. If I had your expertise I would only use a trigger IMO!
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The container dispenser can really determine how a product is perceived. For example, I really like the Meg's burgundy bottles with the misting dispense.
I also found for higher output sprayers, one should spray in a sweeping motion so it does not just create excess build up in one area. When you spray in one spot. a lot ends up in the microfiber towel (wet spots) as you try to spread it and the spot saturation causes streaking as you try to dry.
I also found for higher output sprayers, one should spray in a sweeping motion so it does not just create excess build up in one area. When you spray in one spot. a lot ends up in the microfiber towel (wet spots) as you try to spread it and the spot saturation causes streaking as you try to dry.
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Another update on FK... after driving the car yesterday after using FK on it the night before, I did notice considerably less dust on it upon returning home from work. It was a noticeable difference. I'd say there was 40-50% less dust. So that's another "Pro" that FK has over OID. So let me reiterate:
FK pros:
- almost no streaking
- better at dust repelling
OID pros:
- slicker
- glossier
FK pros:
- almost no streaking
- better at dust repelling
OID pros:
- slicker
- glossier
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Another update on FK... after driving the car yesterday after using FK on it the night before, I did notice considerably less dust on it upon returning home from work. It was a noticeable difference. I'd say there was 40-50% less dust. So that's another "Pro" that FK has over OID. So let me reiterate:
FK pros:
- almost no streaking
- better at dust repelling
OID pros:
- slicker
- glossier
FK pros:
- almost no streaking
- better at dust repelling
OID pros:
- slicker
- glossier
sportscarhiatus
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That's a very good point. Good thinking. I am guessing you already did this and therefore can attest to it eh?
rops: Yeah I noticed it on my black G right away after driving it... much less dust than even OID.
Old Tiger
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Yes I did. I will do next time with FK on oe one side and OID on the other.That's a very good point. Good thinking. I am guessing you already did this and therefore can attest to it eh?
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I did a quick detail of my black car today with FK 425. I made the mistake of not waiting for the engine to cool down completely--the hood was still warm to the touch. I found that I experienced some streaking. I may also have sprayed too much product on the hood. I could not remove the streaking by further application of 425--it was as if there was a film on the surface--and was on the verge of concluding that I would just have to wait until the next wash. Then I remembered that I had a bottle of Megs' silicone-free M34 Final Inspection. That did the trick!
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Same experience as mine... it seems, that FK, along with other QD's are very temp sensitive. Even if not in direct sunlight, if the surface you are applying it to is hot/warm, it WILL streak. With FK, if surface is cool, no streaking at all. With OID, even with surfaces being cool, at times, it still streaks. Perhaps because of amount of OID used? (excess)
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Killr, I assume you mean that you rewipe the area with a water-dampened towel AFTER you initially used another MF to spread the QD, right? If so, doesn't wiping the area you just QD'd with water kind of like defeating the purpose of the QD in the first place? Wouldn't wiping it with water "wipe away" the QD? or at least make the QD less effective at protecting/glossing?
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I like the 36 oz. bottle with the dilution ratios on it and a low profile black sprayer
Reviving an old thread instead of starting a new one.
If I wash with ONR and use OCW after that, when do I use OID; after OCW? Also, if I wash my Car once a month with ONR and reapply OCW everytime; will using OID on a daily basis help or strip off the OCW?
If I wash with ONR and use OCW after that, when do I use OID; after OCW? Also, if I wash my Car once a month with ONR and reapply OCW everytime; will using OID on a daily basis help or strip off the OCW?
flamed03vert
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Optimum products are based of similar polymer chemistry so therefore designed to work together. OID will not strip the OCW. OID makes a great drying agent with ONR.
Thanks. Let's say I don't need a drying agent and I don't need any gloss as I am very pleased with the OCW gloss. What purpose does OID serve in that case when I just dust my entire car with a California duster on a daily basis? Does it have any dust repelling or anti static properties that ONR / OCW don't?
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I have used both of these products as QD's. They both work good. However, I prefer UWWP+ mixed 1/2ounce UWWP+ to 22 ounces of distilled water. I think the finish is slicker and the UWWP+ is so cost effective, although that is not my main motivation for using UWWP+.
Just my opinion.
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Just my opinion.
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Ultima Waterless Wash Plus+ Concentrate, concentrated waterless auto wash, waterless car wash
I have UWW+. I like it but I don't do alot of rinseless washes, and I refuse to do waterless. That scares me. It does leave behind a nice slickness, most likely from polycharging and it smells like lime candy. I try not to mention different products other than the ones being discussed because I am not a sales person. You are most likely the type of person who is trying to maximize what you have right now with the ability to try something new in the future. I got caught up in the "flavor of the month" game for a while.
OID claims to have anti static properties, is a shine booster and adds slickness. I can attest to the last two. If you must use a car duster the OID will allow it to glide easier, and the slickness will help the duster pick up the dust and pollen.