More then I could chew=- What would you do?

This varies from state to state - I'd seek the advice of a labor lawyer in your state.

I agree with the recommendation to consult an attorney, but technically it would be a Worker's Compensation attorney that he should consult, not a Labor attorney. The Labor attorney could certainly find the correct answer, but the Workers Comp attorney would know the answer immediately.

So many people think that they can get out of paying WC insurance by calling an employee a "independent contractor", but it is a lot more complicated than that.
 
This is a great and interesting thread.

I am real curious: how do you detail 6 cars in one day with just 2 or 3 people? What is your process? Do you use an AIO product?
 
I agree with the recommendation to consult an attorney, but technically it would be a Worker's Compensation attorney that he should consult, not a Labor attorney. The Labor attorney could certainly find the correct answer, but the Workers Comp attorney would know the answer immediately.

So many people think that they can get out of paying WC insurance by calling an employee a "independent contractor", but it is a lot more complicated than that.

A labor lawyer typically handles workers comp claims - labor lawyer is a broad term - workers comp is a specialty / subset of labor law - this isn't a complicated issue / question that needs a specialist!
 
A labor lawyer typically handles workers comp claims - labor lawyer is a broad term - workers comp is a specialty / subset of labor law - this isn't a complicated issue / question that needs a specialist!

You are correct: labor law is a broad term/area of law...which is why it makes more sense to consult a Workers Compensation attorney, since that is the very specialty that is at issue here.

The Workers Comp attorney is also very likely to charge less than a labor law attorney, so the statement that this isn't a complicated issue that requires a specialist is moot.
 
First -- pictures -- I am bad at it but will get some up -- so lazy with pics that my web page has stock photos i am allowed to use...

but how to detail 6 cars in a day. We are doing express details, we work fast and hard.. and yes use all in one products.

Here is the basic breakdown. Remember this is for Express details not a full 10 hour detail, we talk to customers about what we can do if they have us come to them and are given the time.

Exterior
1) powerwash wheel and wheel wells, dress the tires etc.. I use a dry steam cleaner, a brush and meguires rim cleaner. wipe down with a microfiber and it looks new again. then use a regular tire dressing.

2) optimum no rinsce the outside, no need for water or drying, no water marks.

3) clay, I use the optimum as a clay lube and wipe it down as I go.


4) take out paint transfers, water spots swirls and scratches on small spots .. im not here to correct, I am doing this as an express detail (I repeat this over and over in my head and to partner. ) I will point things out to customers that I can do for an additional cost, you know what though -- most people do not notice it until pointed out -- you now have a customer that will come back.

5) My flex some pads and meguires AIO D151.

7) Windows (after interior)

7) final walk around with a spray detailer.

Interior -- I hate interiors but I have the tools to make it easy.

1) put on gloves, pick up trash, put customers goods in large clear plastic bag or box.

2) vacuum

3) steam clean entire interior. Including mats. This makes it go sooo fast.

4) seal, protect, condition all surfaces.

I have a background in a large corporate 500 company that is known for innovations and putting together workflows (insurance).. to make processes faster, I once held a job that was incharge of improving processes and putting them in writing (workflows). Basically .. Find ways to do things once and do things faster.. Dont go over the same spot 10 times, 5 times or even 2 times. Get it done, right and fast. then move on.


Just remember I am doing an express detail, not a full detail I could have spent all 2 days on any one of the vehicles that I had, and I let the customers know that (I had a guy bring his nicer car the second day because of it and will be back with a 3rd this weekend). I am in this to make money first and well last. This if anything is a great opportunity to get more customers and expand my business.

I do a better job then a car wash, hand wash or allot of other detailers... or what most people can do or want to do themselves, from talkign to these guys they would rather be on the golf course then cleaning... so I let them.


Im by far no expert at this express detailing yet but from the posts on this forum and in this thread it made me look at it as a business first and foremost, this has made me look at things from a better perspective. I am also tired of almost every car being black :)./
 
You are correct: labor law is a broad term/area of law...which is why it makes more sense to consult a Workers Compensation attorney, since that is the very specialty that is at issue here.

The Workers Comp attorney is also very likely to charge less than a labor law attorney, so the statement that this isn't a complicated issue that requires a specialist is moot.


One thing im lucky with is one of my great friends is a lawyer so those costs are free.
 
Great read. Good information for me as I've recently had someone approach me about doing cars at a golf course on the weekend. I've got an out of work golfing buddy working some contacts for me he ahs at a few courses. He will be my hired help. I'm excited about developing some new customers.
 
Exterior
1) powerwash wheel and wheel wells, dress the tires etc.. I use a dry steam cleaner, a brush and meguires rim cleaner. wipe down with a microfiber and it looks new again. then use a regular tire dressing.


3) steam clean entire interior. Including mats. This makes it go sooo fast.


--What kind of steam cleaner do you use?
 
If you worked in Vegas I would work for you. I'm 19 and currently looking for a job in professional detailing. Not for some hack car wash that's going to butcher the paint.
 
where at in nj/pa is the course located. I'm from that area and if you need a hand, I'll be happy to lend you one!
 
This is a great and interesting thread.

I am real curious: how do you detail 6 cars in one day with just 2 or 3 people? What is your process? Do you use an AIO product?

I have detailed 7 cars in one day with a helper. These are what I call MINI details. No paint correction involved. Vac,shampoo,steam clean interiors,windows,wash hand wax!
You need a system! I call it "Sweeping a Vehicle" I try not to go back over an area! Maybe someone here can help explain a method! In other words do everything that needs to be done in an area before moving on!
 
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