Not happy with Menzerna

Kris R

Kris R

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I bought 4 big bottles of Menzerna because people loose their mind over it. 85rd is good. The power gloss and the mid abrassive polish Im just not that impressed with. Powergloss dries out WAY to fast and dusts like crazy. Yes I prime the pad. No I dont use to much or little.

Thinking of going the M105 route. I use a rotary and a PCxp with yellow lake country pads or orange ones with the powergloss.

Thinking about stepping up to wool. Ive come across some BEATERS that I wanted to practice on and the scratches and swirls just laughed at Menzerna.
 
Thinking about stepping up to wool. Ive come across some BEATERS that I wanted to practice on and the scratches and swirls just laughed at Menzerna.
Power gloss with a yellow pad with a rotary and the swirls just laughed at Menz...you are doing something wrong my friend. If you think PG dries quickly wait till you try 105.
 
Kris R said:
I bought 4 big bottles of Menzerna because people loose their mind over it. 85rd is good. The power gloss and the mid abrassive polish Im just not that impressed with. Powergloss dries out WAY to fast and dusts like crazy. Yes I prime the pad. No I dont use to much or little.

Thinking of going the M105 route. I use a rotary and a PCxp with yellow lake country pads or orange ones with the powergloss.

Thinking about stepping up to wool. Ive come across some BEATERS that I wanted to practice on and the scratches and swirls just laughed at Menzerna.
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If you're trying to get away from dusting then M105 isn't the answer.
 
Kris R said:
I bought 4 big bottles of Menzerna because people loose their mind over it. 85rd is good. The power gloss and the mid abrassive polish Im just not that impressed with. Powergloss dries out WAY to fast and dusts like crazy. Yes I prime the pad. No I dont use to much or little.

Thinking of going the M105 route. I use a rotary and a PCxp with yellow lake country pads or orange ones with the powergloss.

Thinking about stepping up to wool. Ive come across some BEATERS that I wanted to practice on and the scratches and swirls just laughed at Menzerna.
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If you dont want dusting, try the new Optimum Hyper Compound Spray. It is a radical departure from MPG and M105! I wont go back to either!
 
I only use Menzerna 85rd so I can't speak to the problems you're having, but I can "second" what the other guys have said; Meguiar's 105 makes a whole lotta dust- I mean, geez momma. I even tried Kevin Brown's approach and carefully primed the pad with product and it can still be a snow storm. I still use Meguiar's 105 because it works for me, but it's a challenge.
At the most recent Detailing 102 seminar that Mike Phillip's taught, we tried a variety of products. We tried the products out on rotaries (and that might make a difference) Mother's & Menzerna didn't dust, I don't remember which Meguiar's products we used, & the folks were impressed with the Optimum compound. The best detailer in south/ central Texas uses the Optimum product. Hopes this helps.
 
Oh yeah, with the Optimum compound- shake the bottle very thoroughly, and getting it to spray in a mist form instead of a straight line might take some careful manipulation of the spray nozzle.
 
rwisejr said:
FYI I would take out this link as its to a competitors site
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FYI when you quote the potentially offending link, it does not get edited if the poster edits their post, thus the mods will still have to intervene and edit your post... thus defeating the purpose of telling them to remove the link. :xyxthumbs:
 
Kris R said:
I bought 4 big bottles of Menzerna because people loose their mind over it. 85rd is good. The power gloss and the mid abrassive polish Im just not that impressed with. Powergloss dries out WAY to fast and dusts like crazy. Yes I prime the pad. No I dont use to much or little.

Thinking of going the M105 route. I use a rotary and a PCxp with yellow lake country pads or orange ones with the powergloss.

Thinking about stepping up to wool. Ive come across some BEATERS that I wanted to practice on and the scratches and swirls just laughed at Menzerna.
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Just like surfer said....If you think Menzerna dries out to quick...lol....just wait when you use the M105....you are really going to freak out. Not sure what all is going on in your situation, but Menzerna has never failed me at all..long working time, sure it kicks up a dust storm, but the end results are worth it to me and my customers......Menzerna Rocks !!
 
Kris R said:
I bought 4 big bottles of Menzerna because people loose their mind over it. 85rd is good. The power gloss and the mid abrassive polish Im just not that impressed with. Powergloss dries out WAY to fast and dusts like crazy. Yes I prime the pad. No I dont use to much or little.
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Try dampening a fresh pad with some pad lube, working it in by hand then squeezing out the excess by pressing a clean MF against the pad or rolling the pad up in a clean towel, as Mike P. demonstrates for drying pads by hand. Having some moisture in the pad should help the Power Gloss stay wet long enough for it to "flash". Once it does, IME, you will be amazed by both the amount of correction and the quality of the finish. Also using both compressed air and a clean towel to clean the pad on the fly after each section pass will greatly reduce the dusting.

Kris R said:
Thinking about stepping up to wool. Ive come across some BEATERS that I wanted to practice on and the scratches and swirls just laughed at Menzerna.
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I have just the opposite experience with PG, it destroys sanding marks on LC yellow via rotary, finishing beautifully. and it takes care of the majority of swirls on almost anything via Flex 3401.

RIDS on the other hand are a different story, Power gloss can greatly reduce the appearance of scratches, but complete removal may not be feasible. The swirls on an "old beater" could very well be (what I just made up) EDDS or Evenly Distributed Deeper Scratches, which may be too much to expect a single pass with a compound to correct.

Also if it's factory paint, it probably isn't a good idea to remove as much clear as it would take to level the surface to the depth of the scratch. I guess it's just a matter of evaluating the paint condition and having realistic expectations.

I think it is because the polish dries up on you so fast that your not happy with the results. Try again with the lubed up pad and work it as long as you can... It's good stuff I swear, if you still don't like it, I would definitely give your unwanted Menz a good home. :)
 
great thanks! I think Im going to try the Optimum and the wool. Maybe give PG a new approach.
 
I got all the swirls out of my car with Menz Intensive polish and an orange pad. Just the deeper stuff is left, and following up with Micro Polish got me a really great shine. Super Intensive polish would be the next step up I think.
 
In a separate bottle I mix 1/4 Poorboy's Pro Polish and 3/4 M-105. I have to work it a little longer to get the correction but I can work it longer, it dusts a little less and it wipes off 100 times easier.
 
A4 1.8tqm said:
Try dampening a fresh pad with some pad lube, working it in by hand then squeezing out the excess by pressing a clean MF against the pad or rolling the pad up in a clean towel, as Mike P. demonstrates for drying pads by hand. Having some moisture in the pad should help the Power Gloss stay wet long enough for it to "flash". Once it does, IME, you will be amazed by both the amount of correction and the quality of the finish. Also using both compressed air and a clean towel to clean the pad on the fly after each section pass will greatly reduce the dusting.
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This is exactly what I do with SIP. I dont have PG but SIP can dust like crazy but I dampen my pad with M34 blot out the excess liquid and that greatly reduces the dust if not eliminates it. I feel the pad is also easier to work with.
 
I have had issues with SIP dusting as well, and the next time I use it there are two things I am going to try differently; first I ordered LC hydrotech pads, second with CCS pads, I am going to soak them in distilled water then spin before use, then prime so the pads don't suck up so much of the product.
 
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