Fuzion or Souveran on Dark Metallics?
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Dubbin1
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It doesn't matter, put all 3 in a bag, reach in and use the one you grab. I don't fall for all of this making flakes pop BS. I have tried many waxes and none have made any difference in the way the flake looks.
Rob T
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I'll disagree with you on that one. While I don't dispute that no LSP can make flakes "pop" much more than what they look like after polishing, there are LSP's that tend to darken and mute the flakes to a degree. I found this to be the case with Opti-Seal on silver metallic for example.
Dubbin1
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Rob T
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We will just agree to disagree
Oh, no way will I agree to that!!
Blackthorn One
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If two different waxes look different in the jars, they will look different on the cars.
Granted, buffed out wax on a car is very thin, and so relatively speaking, especially compared to how well the paint is polished, the difference between any two waxes will USUALLY be very subtle at best. However, because the wax on the car came from the jar, it will look like a very thin coating of ITSELF, as opposed to a coating that looks the same as any other. Logically, no two waxes on a car CAN look like each other, because they ARE different. The more coats of any wax you put on a car, the more noticeable that wax's particular appearance will become.
You might not notice the difference, but it is there, because it logically MUST be, unless there is some magic that makes all different waxes somehow look EXACTLY the same when applied to paint. If you can't notice any difference, though, it doesn't make any sense to buy a higher end wax unless you are concerned with impressing a car show judge, for example. Sometimes the slightest difference is the difference that makes the difference between winning and not, just like racing. You don't need to beat someone by 10 car lengths to win, just by any amount that can be noticed, like thousandths of a second, or a fraction of a hair.
Honestly, the only reason that high end waxes even exist is to impress the pickiest of people, like judges, true connoisseurs like Ralph Lauren, and really rich people who just like to have the very best even when they can't tell the difference themselves, just so they can brag about it.
If you don't care about the subtle difference between a high end wax and a lower end one, just buy the one you find the easiest to use, or smells the nicest, and lasts the longest, and don't worry about it. However, the leap of logic that there is no difference between two different waxes on a car should logically dis proven as soon as you glance at both waxes in their jars. I seem to be developing the ability to tell which waxes will look great on a car just by looking at the wax in the jar. Higher quality waxes have a more translucent appearance in the jar, and less opaque. You can't have the deepest richest layer of wax on a car if it wasn't in the jar to begin with.
CEE DOG
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DEEWow, the paint looks amazing!
I know man, I'm such a rookie
You're a hack!
:laughing: :applause: :laughing:
Spicy McHaggis
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That was one of the most well written and educated sounding posts until the last few sentences. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to argue, but there is no way to tell what a wax will look like on a paint while it is still in the jar. It's just not possible. Some of the Dodo waxes are almost totally opaque in the jar but look faboulous on the paint. With that being said there are some waxes with no coloring that don't look quite as good. In all hoesty most waxes will look close enough that you wouldn't be able to tell the diffrence if you didn't know.
I could post up two pictures of cars with totally different LSP's and I doubt anyone could tell them apart just by looking at them.
Dubbin1
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:laughing:
Rob T
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Me too!
:cheers:
In fact, I've got to the point where I can tell what waxes will look great on a car just by looking at the label that the manufacturer has put on the jar! The prettier the label, the better the wax will look on the paint. :xyxthumbs:
Help me understand your comment here, basically what you're saying is that Swissvax Concorso, Mystery, or even Crystal Rock are not quality waxes because they aren't translucent in the jar?
Blackthorn One
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Yeah, I know what you mean. It does sound pretty out there. Somehow I just seem to notice something similar about certain high end waxes. Maybe it's the texture.
Blackthorn One
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No, I am saying that they all have a similar look about them. When I say more translucent, I mean a little more, not a lot. Let's be honest, all wax allows light through it, so that you can see the paint, delivering clarity, thus, higher quality wax has a more translucent appearance than lower quality, or less pure or refined carnauba, because it allows less light through, and reduced clarity, generally speaking. Otherwise, how would we get the clarity? Does that make sense to you?
Not really to me. Some of the higher end waxes I see are actually more opaque. I know fuzion is pretty translucent but soveran is very opaque. Sig Series II was also pretty opaque. Doesn't really make sense when dealing with liquid paste that aren't translucent at all either.
