Meguiars Ultimate Compound

Yes I am using the 7424XP, now another question if I use M205 and it doesnt work than use ultimate compound than reuse m205 is it safe to keep applying m205 here and there to the vehicle like after so many washes or will this thin the clear to much
 
rocdup0254 said:
Yes I am using the 7424XP, now another question if I use M205 and it doesnt work than use ultimate compound than reuse m205 is it safe to keep applying m205 here and there to the vehicle like after so many washes or will this thin the clear to much
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If you are using proper technique when you wash and dry then there should be no need to use M205 anywhere near that often.

That being said, if you use Ultimate Comound followed by M205 you would be able to see if it works or not. You may have to use Ultimate Compound several times to achieve the desired correction and this all depends on the severity of defects and paint workability.
 
Shawn T. said:
If you are using proper technique when you wash and dry then there should be no need to use M205 anywhere near that often.

That being said, if you use Ultimate Comound followed by M205 you would be able to see if it works or not. You may have to use Ultimate Compound several times to achieve the desired correction and this all depends on the severity of defects and paint workability.
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rocdup0254 said:
Yes I am using the 7424XP, now another question if I use M205 and it doesnt work than use ultimate compound than reuse m205 is it safe to keep applying m205 here and there to the vehicle like after so many washes or will this thin the clear to much
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Yes. Start with M205 to see if you can remove the defects without stepping up to a compound. If M205 does not work, step up to UC. With some light colored paints, I have been tempted to go to wax after UC but you should get better gloss by stepping down to M205 as the finishing step.

M205 is an abrasive. If you don't need to remove paint to get a nice glossy surface with a polish like M205, my recommendation is don't. The pre wax paint cleaners and clay should be all you need most of the time. If the car is a show car, maybe my answer would be different. I drive DDs on LA freeways and I am always getting hit with stuff coming off the road. I could remove defects every month if I was totally OCD, but I would be staring at primer instead of CC by now.

You can also consider a glaze to fill light towel scratches and the like between heavy duty polishing jobs to preserve paint thickness while hiding minor defects and adding gloss. Some of the sealants out there will actually work like a glaze and fill light swirls and not wash away easily.

Lots of options.
 
Here's a quick pass I did with UC a while ago

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Best part is, its available locally.
 
fancyfootwork said:
Megs UC works great. Its a mix of 105 and 205. What compound are you using that is leaving scratches behind?
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Is that true?



Sorry to bump this thread, but I tought mixing / blending m105 with m205 instead of buying ultimate compound 8oz at the time. I have plenty of M105 and M205 so I'll give it a try.

The main purpose of this is that I want to make M105 more oily, and I suppose M205 would help it to do that.

I'll try this tonight and give you my impressions.
 
I think if you look earlier in the thread they're not a mix of the two. I went for the UC and I love it. I use that instead of the Griots #1, which IMO was horrible. Granted I am very much an amateur, so it's just my two cents.
 
domyz said:
Is that true?



Sorry to bump this thread, but I tought mixing / blending m105 with m205 instead of buying ultimate compound 8oz at the time. I have plenty of M105 and M205 so I'll give it a try.

The main purpose of this is that I want to make M105 more oily, and I suppose M205 would help it to do that.

I'll try this tonight and give you my impressions.
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I didn't mean that they are literally a mix. What I meant was that UC doesn't cut quite as hard as 105 and it doesn't polish out as well as 205. Which to me ressembles it being a "mix" of the two.
 
Good thing about UC is - there is no need to follow up with 205 or the like.

Ultimate Compound is favorite compound for many, including myself, and one of the easiest products to work with.
 
i used the meg's ultimate compound then their ultimate polish then mother's cleaner wax on my 03 montana's hood just to test the stuff out and the cobbwebb swirls came right back within 6 months.

HOWEVER.. i have been washing with a brush and not a lambswool mitt so that could have something to do with it. two bucket method while drying via absorber. i believe it's the brush.
 
Danube said:
Good thing about UC is - there is no need to follow up with 205 or the like.

Ultimate Compound is favorite compound for many, including myself, and one of the easiest products to work with.
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I like UC for a quick job/cheaper alternative. M205 finishes much nicer IMO.
 
mxfly said:
Has anyone used Ultimate Polish after UC? Just want peoples opinions on this product.

Meguiars Ultimate Polish, meguiars car polish, meguiars polishes, mcguire's
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sorry to bump an old thread, but didnt want to make a new one.

my plan is to use ultimate compound > ultimate polish > wolfgang DGPS 3.0 > carnauba wax (leaning towards p21s). ill be using Griots DA orbital. how does that sound? should i use m205 instead of ultimate polish? any other recommendations? thanks
 
Hello,

Looks like a nice plan. In my opinion, UP is a great product (have it here and like to have it). However, to me, looks like it has a lot more 'oils and fillers' than M205. That said, I would choose one over another based on how well the UC finishes.

Generally speaking:

If I find that UC didn't let a very nice finish (using an orange pad), I will polish with M205 on white (polishing) pad.

If UC finish very well on orange, I would (majority of times) follow with UP on a black (finishing) pad. But also used M205 at this point, difficult to say one is better over another.

To resume my point of view, I do prefer M205 when I judge there'll be needed some 'polishing power' to improve compound finish, but I tend to choose UP when I find a 'glaze' will do the job.

Sometimes, I've just done 3 steps (UC/orange, M205/white, UP/black) before LSP. I tend to do this specially on black cars.

The 'third step' - UP/finishing pad - is really an easy task as you can cover a larger area, use less passes, less pressure and a bit faster arm speed. On darker paints, well worth the effort.

One thing to consider: UP oils and fillers are nice to be followed with a Meg's LSP (like ultimate past/liquid wax), as it has related 'compatibility'. I don't know if there will be any bonding issue with DGPS3.0, that way, I would prefer to UC/M205/LSP.

Another info about UP is that it also contains abrasives, so nothing keeps you from trying a test spot using it on a white (polishing) pad. That's almost the only true answer: test spots...

Hope I've helped anyway, please, ask if you have any doubt.

Kind Regards.
 
Hey Tato! Thanks for the detailed response.

my car is black so i would most likely go with all three steps.. but i will judge the situation first as you mentioned. i should have actually stuck with all Megs products (i love their pricing) but already bought the wolfgang sealant so i might give it a shot. i might pick up Megs m26 wax as well. i found a useful link: Why does Meguiar's offer so many different waxes?
 
Thank you for feedback. Unfortunately, I haven't put my hands on WDGPS3.0 (yet), but from what I read 'here and there' it's a 'Sir.' sealant, 'second to none'. By the way, I commonly use Meg's UW to follow M205/UP with great results (and 0 (zero) bonding/compatibility issues).

If I were to apply the Wolfgang's sealant, I would make an extensive search wether it's important to include a step between Meg's polishing and LSP, like a Paint cleaning solution (I do prefer cleaning polishes, some do prefer IPA).

My n. 1 choice for using just before WDGPS3.0 would be:

Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer
Wolfgang Pre-Wax Polish Enhancer is absolutely fabulous for producing that elusive, show-ready wet-shine look. This polish actually enhances and

2. option:

Wolfgang Finishing Glaze 3.0
Wolfgang Finishing Glaze 3.0, Wolfgang finishing polish, polising glaze, machine glaze

I'm not the 'kinda of guy' who sticks strictly to one line of products, but I tend to prefer that the finishing steps to be very 'compatible'. Always had great results on LSP durability doing this, but again, you can always try an IPA... I won't!

Thank you again,

Kind Regards.
 
good points on the bonding compatibility. i'll look into it!
 
When using Megs UC is it best to fully prime the entire surface of the pad before doing the first section or just apply 5 or 6 pea sized drops near the outer edge???

Then for the next section 3 drops near the outer edge??
 
ski2 said:
When using Megs UC is it best to fully prime the entire surface of the pad before doing the first section or just apply 5 or 6 pea sized drops near the outer edge???

Then for the next section 3 drops near the outer edge??
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In a word, yes.
Use Ult Compound just like you would any other compound.

Bill
 
Thanks Bill. Just wanted to check because I'm most familiar with using HD Cut which works best with just 6-8 pea sized drops on the other edges of the pad for priming then just 2-3 drops for each additional section.

So for UC do a full pad prime.
 
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