Whats up from houston
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BobbyG
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:welcome: To Autogeek Online!!
rops:Hey! What's up from New England!! :dblthumb2:
Stealerships are like that. Do it yourself and it'll be 10X nicer at 1/4 the price...
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One problem , got the pcxp from tommy tools around the corner, but they had no pads.
i orderd the Softbuff 2.0 and w68da since thats what the G110v2 comes with and it was out of stock at the time.
I read that the 6.5 pads are too big for the pcxp ,but the ones I ordered are 7.0
I called AG to change my order and the guy talked me out of it.
The more I read here I am very much regreting letting that support guy change my mind., everyone says 5.0 back and 5.5 pads. I was trying to change it to w67da and hydotech . but that tech support guy said dont worry about it.
well money doesent grow on trees and i am worried .
What should i do?
i orderd the Softbuff 2.0 and w68da since thats what the G110v2 comes with and it was out of stock at the time.
I read that the 6.5 pads are too big for the pcxp ,but the ones I ordered are 7.0
I called AG to change my order and the guy talked me out of it.
The more I read here I am very much regreting letting that support guy change my mind., everyone says 5.0 back and 5.5 pads. I was trying to change it to w67da and hydotech . but that tech support guy said dont worry about it.
well money doesent grow on trees and i am worried .
What should i do?
BobbyG
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You should be worried!
In my opinion, as well as countless others, 6 1/2 inch pads are too big for the Porter Cable 7424 style dual action polisher.....never mind the 7 inch size!!
These polishers should come standard with 5 1/2 inch pads and corresponding backing plate.
Pads & Friction
The size or surface area does not directly affect the frictional force between two surfaces until downward force or pressure is applied. Reducing the pad size will only improve the mechanical efficiency of the machine.
The motor of your polisher produces some amount of power. The larger the pad surface area the harder the motor must work. Now, most will say "it's only 1 extra inch", but when it comes to surface area and friction your really talking about an additional 10 square inches. Now take a look at the difference between the 5 1/2 inch pad and the 7 inch pad...........Size does matter!
Surface Area - 5 1/2 pad = 23.75 in²
Surface Area - 6 1/2 pad = 33.18 in²
Surface Area - 7 pad = 38.484 in²
There is a direct relationship between the pad surface area and the polishers ability to transfer adequate power to the pad improving it's overall performance.
Lake Country Pads
Lake Country 5 1/2 x 7/8 inch Beveled Edge Pads 6 Pack, foam pad kit, build a kit, buffing pads, curved edge pads
Backing Plate
lake country 5 inch backing plate, 5 inch backin plate, 5 inch hook and loop backing plate
HeavyMetal
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Return them immediately. I have a PC and followed the advice here to get the 5" plate and 5.5 pads. Menz Powerlock sealant comes with a 6.5 red pad free. I found it kinda OK for spreading sealant, but I can't imagine trying to polish with that mattress.
When even newbs like me can tell that 6.5" pads would be an absolute bear to polish with, it's well past time to give up on 6.5" and larger pads with a DA.
When even newbs like me can tell that 6.5" pads would be an absolute bear to polish with, it's well past time to give up on 6.5" and larger pads with a DA.
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HeavyMetal
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I think it's a toss up. The 5.5 flats are pretty proven and I like them. Also many postive posts about the HT's. As to number, depends. Are you only doing this for yourself? If so and you go with the flats, you really only need one 6 pak of the flats. I'd get 2 orange, 2 white, 1 black, 1 blue. The orange and white used for the polishes take the most abuse in my limited experience so that's why 2 of those. The black is good for a cleaner/pure polish like Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer and the blue for wax. Menz sealant and some others come with a free pad. If you use Mike's on-the-fly cleaning technique to keep the pad clean, you can easily get away with one pad per step. I've done 3 cars that way and have no probs.
Meghan
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I am going to have a tech call you in a few mins we will get you on track.
HeavyMetal
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That's up to you. There are several posts noting very good results with these products. They are just not the ones I would choose.
Mike Phillips
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The Ultimate Compound will do a great job of chewing and chopping off the dead, oxidized and stained paint.
Anytime you're working on dried out single stage paint you want to modify your technique two ways,
Use your product heavy or wet
Work a smaller area
Single stage paints are a lot more porous than clear coats and the liquid carrying agents in any product will tend to seep into the paint and make it appear as though the product is drying up faster than normal. Compensate for this by using a little extra product to keep a good, wet film of product on the surface.
For the same reason above, work a small section for the initial cut than you normally would work.
Basically, follow some of the tips and techniques shared here,
Tips for working in warm/hot weather or direct sunlight
Excerpt...
Shrink your work area down to a smaller size...
Anytime a product becomes difficult to work with, one tip you can try is to shrink down the size of your work area. This means you spread the product out over a smaller area and because you're engaging the working film of product over the area more quickly as you move the polisher there's less time for the product to dry.
And REAL IMPORTANT --> Because you're going to have a lot of dead paint and spent product building up on the face of your pad.
Clean your pads often or switch to a clean dry pad...
It's vitally important to work clean and this means cleaning your pad often and often can mean cleaning your pad after each Section Pass no matter which type of polisher you're using.
Get some terry cloth hand towels and keep them clean and handy...
How to clean your foam pad on the fly
