My Opti-coat 2.0 impressions/questions

Chris, last question... I shouldn't see any degradation in performance from what I did, should I? I mean, once it's on there, it's ON THERE, right? It's not like I will lose OC performance a day, week, month, etc, later???? It should last as long as your 3 years on your car?
 
I don't see any problems. Like you said...once it's on there, it's ON There. Had the car been in the sun prior to application that day? Hot panels will make it flash faster than normal and would probably explain the need to use a MF.
 
I don't see any problems. Like you said...once it's on there, it's ON There. Had the car been in the sun prior to application that day? Hot panels will make it flash faster than normal and would probably explain the need to use a MF.

No sir... both times I worked on it, they've been in the garage overnight... I worked on them at 5:30 in the morning so I didn't take too much time away from wife and kid. The only thing I could think of was the heat from my halogens plus the temp in the garage??? Still... I tried the same method in the shade with no halogen, same thing.... maybe slightly less streaks, but still there. Wipe with MF, gone.
 
I have a question. If this is used on my daily driver, that means it will be exposed to all the elements. This includes bugs and possible rocks when driving.

How well will Opti-Coat hold up to this, and can areas be touched up if a chip occurs? I sealed a set of headlights this weekend and kept thinking about how to repair it.

Just thinking outloud folks.
 
I have a question. If this is used on my daily driver, that means it will be exposed to all the elements. This includes bugs and possible rocks when driving.

How well will Opti-Coat hold up to this, and can areas be touched up if a chip occurs? I sealed a set of headlights this weekend and kept thinking about how to repair it.

Just thinking outloud folks.

This should help:

From my Q&A with Dr. G:

12.-Can a small touchup spot of Opti-Coat 2.0 be applied over a previously Opti-coated panel. For instance: If you get a rock chip in your paint and need to touch it up then want to recoat the touched up area with Opti-coat can you simply apply OC to that one small area? Would there be any negative affects where the touch-up OC overlapped the existing OC?

Once Opti-Coat cures, it will repel most everything even the fresh resin. If you have to recoat a section, you will have to polish the entire panel first with Optimum Polish or Optimum Finish. Then, you will need to wipe the panel down with a damp microfiber towel to remove any residue before reapplying Opti-Coat 2.0 to the entire panel.


From this thread: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ew-extreme-testing-opti-coat-2-0-cquartz.html
 
This should help:

From my Q&A with Dr. G:

12.-Can a small touchup spot of Opti-Coat 2.0 be applied over a previously Opti-coated panel. For instance: If you get a rock chip in your paint and need to touch it up then want to recoat the touched up area with Opti-coat can you simply apply OC to that one small area? Would there be any negative affects where the touch-up OC overlapped the existing OC?

Once Opti-Coat cures, it will repel most everything even the fresh resin. If you have to recoat a section, you will have to polish the entire panel first with Optimum Polish or Optimum Finish. Then, you will need to wipe the panel down with a damp microfiber towel to remove any residue before reapplying Opti-Coat 2.0 to the entire panel.

From this thread: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ew-extreme-testing-opti-coat-2-0-cquartz.html

Corey, btw, thanks for your review. That really helped me out a lot before my application. However, I wasn't getting the luck you were upon application. So you didn't have any streaks whatsoever? I know that you did yours in natural light, but did you by chance put it under some work lights? I know when I put on OC in the shade on my driveway, it was a LOT harder to see the streaks... but I knew what to look for so I could still see them, somewhat... then I put my Brinkman on it, and I could definitely see it again.

Could it be by chance that you (and others) had those streaks too, but just didn't see them? I know all of us on here are pretty detailed and obsessive.... but maybe all of us had those streaks?!?!?! maybe not..... Im the MAN
 
Thanks for this thread and all the info.

To answer your question,

During application I did have some visible high spot issues on the hood of the Blue SL if I reall correctly. But I believe they were all removed when I put the MF towel to work more than I had wanted to.

When there has been condensation early in the morning I can see that the coating is not completely level becasue of the dew but in the sun and under any lights I can't see any streaking or high spots.

On my black test panel I do see some high spots. I believe I must have applied too much product in that case.

After I polish it out I'm going to make a video with that black panel of the application method Chris was supporting in the recent past.
 
Thanks for this thread and all the info.

To answer your question,

During application I did have some visible high spot issues on the hood of the Blue SL if I reall correctly. But I believe they were all removed when I put the MF towel to work more than I had wanted to.

Corey, that's what confused me.... I wasn't sure if "high spots" were synonymous with the "streaks" that I kept seeing. They weren't really rainbows per se... they were literally numberous streaks than indicated the direction of my 'swipe' with the pad... like the pad and OC left traces. This happened after my left to right swipe... then you could see the product flashing, then the streaks were what was left.

I will try to take some pics/vids when I do it the next time... might apply it to my Ody bumper. It was very odd.

But as soon as I wiped it with the MF before it got a chance to dry, it was totally fine.

I also looked in the sun light twice today (already got rained on today and went out for lunch), and I could definitely NOT see any high spots at all, nor could I find any streaks. It was perfect. My MF wiping really did the trick........
 
Corey, that's what confused me.... I wasn't sure if "high spots" were synonymous with the "streaks" that I kept seeing. They weren't really rainbows per se... they were literally numberous streaks than indicated the direction of my 'swipe' with the pad...


No, I didn't have any rainbows whatsoever. I had the same thing you are describing. Straight lines where the product was overlapped resulting in slightly thicker product. Then I came back and hit those areas with the mf towel but I found after my first section that it was important to do that step asap. On the first section I had waited a few minutes with the idea that I had a little time to play with.
 
gmck is wrong about my video. There was no MF used and no video edits.

My apologies Chris. There was third Opti-Coat video here just recently and I mixed up your video with it.

As a suggestion it may be a good idea for you to make some more videos. In particular how not to apply Opti-Coat as compared to how to correctly apply it. Let the video show how you work around the actual streaking/staining. Might even be a good idea to demonstrate Poli-Seal removing the streaking on a bad application.
 
No, I didn't have any rainbows whatsoever. I had the same thing you are describing. Straight lines where the product was overlapped resulting in slightly thicker product. Then I came back and hit those areas with the mf towel but I found after my first section that it was important to do that step asap. On the first section I had waited a few minutes with the idea that I had a little time to play with.


Corey THANK YOU SO MUCH for this statement. So I am NOT the only one this is happening to. Awesome. So it sounds like you and I experienced the EXACT same thing and figured out the EXACT same solution. Yes, I literally had to wipe the MF within SECONDS of swiping it or it was permanent. Going back over with the primed pad merely moved the direction of the streaks in a different direction, but it was still there.

At first I was worried about totally wiping off the OC from the surface, but no, it was still there. OC must bond uber uber quick.... leaving the remnants to flash off and form those streaks. Gotta get those off right away.
 
I am not sure I agree with you that I was using too much product.

Well from your most recent post maybe you aren’t using enough product. However you did appear to prime the applicator the same way as I do, that is just a small numbers of drops in an X pattern. Also 4-5ccs for a small car like the Civic would be about right. I don’t use the supplied applicator because my order of Opti-Coat was shipped by the distributor here and he supplied his own applicator. I’ve not seen the Optimum applicator so it maybe that the applicator I’m using lends itself to a more even application. It is a particularly soft applicator and just glides (when loaded with product) across the surface without any squeaking.

I apply the Opti-Coat as I would normally apply any sealant using a circular motion. I certainly don’t apply it in straight lines like in Corey’s video where you can see it streaking between the lines. If you get the angle just right you can see a liquid film being deposited on the paint. When it streaks/flashes, just gently (very light pressure) move the applicator over the area until there is an even film over the paint. Work small areas at a time. That X5 bonnet last night was probably divided into 8 imaginary areas. Keep working each small area until there is no streaking, adding small amounts of additional product if necessary. Always start in the middle of the imaginary section and spread the product to the edges of the area. Alternatively after loading the pad, dab the pad (depositing the Opti-Coat) in a number of different places within the area and then join the dots so to speak. When moving on to the next area, be prepared to look back to the previous area making sure that there are no new streaks appearing.

If you get the technique right then there should be no need to wipe with an MF and potentially remove some of the coating.

Reason why I ask is, I know OC is more scratch/marr resistant, but I know it can still marr. Since the surface is a little more "tacky"

The surface won’t be tacky if you lightly polish with Opti-Seal as previously suggested. Then to maintain the slickness use OCW as required or desired after washing.
 
I apply the Opti-Coat as I would normally apply any sealant using a circular motion. I certainly don’t apply it in straight lines like in Corey’s video where you can see it streaking between the lines. If you get the angle just right you can see a liquid film being deposited on the paint. When it streaks/flashes, just gently (very light pressure) move the applicator over the area until there is an even film over the paint. Work small areas at a time. That X5 bonnet last night was probably divided into 8 imaginary areas. Keep working each small area until there is no streaking, adding small amounts of additional product if necessary. Always start in the middle of the imaginary section and spread the product to the edges of the area. Alternatively after loading the pad, dab the pad (depositing the Opti-Coat) in a number of different places within the area and then join the dots so to speak. When moving on to the next area, be prepared to look back to the previous area making sure that there are no new streaks appearing.

I have good results with this method as I previously mentioned
 
Corey THANK YOU SO MUCH for this statement. So I am NOT the only one this is happening to. Awesome. So it sounds like you and I experienced the EXACT same thing and figured out the EXACT same solution. Yes, I literally had to wipe the MF within SECONDS of swiping it or it was permanent. Going back over with the primed pad merely moved the direction of the streaks in a different direction, but it was still there.

At first I was worried about totally wiping off the OC from the surface, but no, it was still there. OC must bond uber uber quick.... leaving the remnants to flash off and form those streaks. Gotta get those off right away.

Yes, when I used this product it was before information had been provided (that I had seen anyway) about applying it like a WOWA sealant. The directions that came with Opti-coat said to apply thin or wipe on thin or something like that. It made no mention of spreading the product. Everything else I read said to apply it in one direction and then apply it in the other. Elsewhere I read if there were high spots you could lightly touch them with an mf towel to remove the tops of them and allow them to flash. This is why I wrote in my review that I was not happy with the directions. After I had completed my review I found this additional information... I know some others have had success applying it this way as well but it definitely seems to be difficult this way and therefore an "incorrect" method of application.

I apply the Opti-Coat as I would normally apply any sealant using a circular motion. I certainly don’t apply it in straight lines like in Corey’s video where you can see it streaking between the lines. If you get the angle just right you can see a liquid film being deposited on the paint. When it streaks/flashes, just gently (very light pressure) move the applicator over the area until there is an even film over the paint. Work small areas at a time. Keep working each small area until there is no streaking, adding small amounts of additional product if necessary. Always start in the middle of the imaginary section and spread the product to the edges of the area. Alternatively after loading the pad, dab the pad (depositing the Opti-Coat) in a number of different places within the area and then join the dots so to speak. When moving on to the next area, be prepared to look back to the previous area making sure that there are no new streaks appearing.

This is a very good description :dblthumb2:
 
I have a question. If this is used on my daily driver, that means it will be exposed to all the elements. This includes bugs and possible rocks when driving.

How well will Opti-Coat hold up to this, and can areas be touched up if a chip occurs? I sealed a set of headlights this weekend and kept thinking about how to repair it.

Just thinking outloud folks.

Opti Coat will keep chips from rusting, but will not prevent them. It will also make cleaning and removal of bugs easier, but is not a replacement for timely removal and good wash habits.
 
My apologies Chris. There was third Opti-Coat video here just recently and I mixed up your video with it.

As a suggestion it may be a good idea for you to make some more videos. In particular how not to apply Opti-Coat as compared to how to correctly apply it. Let the video show how you work around the actual streaking/staining. Might even be a good idea to demonstrate Poli-Seal removing the streaking on a bad application.

That's awesome, show us how NOT to apply it. I will do another video on a dark vehicle as promised, but I won't be doing a series on misapplication.
 
Chris,

That's awesome, show us how NOT to apply it. I will do another video on a dark vehicle as promised, but I won't be doing a series on misapplication.

Suit yourself mate, but sometimes a little lateral thinking can pay off big time.

One thing that is bloody obvious is that the existing videos aren’t doing it for new users.

Sportscarhiatus is a good example because if ever there was someone that has read every thread there is on Opti-Coat then he is that guy and he still failed first up and is still wondering why he failed.

Obviously there is no substitute for actually trying and developing a successful technique, but you guys need to find an easier way to educate users in how to apply Opti-Coat, because not all users have the patience or knowledge to experiment with technique. You tell them that Opti-Coat is permanent, so quite rightly they are concerned that they could stuff up their paint if they get it wrong. What’s the result? A whole bunch of fence sitters that continue to procrastinate about using Opti-Coat because they think it is just too hard.

As an example, take another look at Corey’s video. It was apparent to me when I saw his technique for applying Opti-Coat that using that method (straight lines) was going to cause considerable streaking. I’m assuming that Corey followed the C.Quartz instructions, because there were next to no instructions with his order of Opti-Coat, so he assumed what was ok for C.Quartz would probably be ok for Opti-Coat.

Do you really want threads running to 4 pages in less than 24 hours every time a new guy attempts to use Opti-Coat and screws up?

If you don’t want to do that video, then talk to Dr. G and suggest that he does a deal with Mike Phillips to do a professional presentation on the usage of Opti-Coat. I’m sure you would agree that your 5 minute demonstration video is not exactly a quality production. The lack of instructions or video is ultimately going to cost sales, when you should be selling bucket loads of this stuff.

The product is revolutionary but it is not going to just sell itself without professional marketing. A professionally produced instructional video would go a long way to correcting the miscomprehensions that now exist on this and other forums.

Apologies for being so blunt but I believe if you discuss the above with Dr. G, then Optimum Polymer Technologies should be able to come up with something that addresses these usage issues.
 
Chris,



Suit yourself mate, but sometimes a little lateral thinking can pay off big time.

One thing that is bloody obvious is that the existing videos aren’t doing it for new users.

Sportscarhiatus is a good example because if ever there was someone that has read every thread there is on Opti-Coat then he is that guy and he still failed first up and is still wondering why he failed.

Obviously there is no substitute for actually trying and developing a successful technique, but you guys need to find an easier way to educate users in how to apply Opti-Coat, because not all users have the patience or knowledge to experiment with technique. You tell them that Opti-Coat is permanent, so quite rightly they are concerned that they could stuff up their paint if they get it wrong. What’s the result? A whole bunch of fence sitters that continue to procrastinate about using Opti-Coat because they think it is just too hard.

As an example, take another look at Corey’s video. It was apparent to me when I saw his technique for applying Opti-Coat that using that method (straight lines) was going to cause considerable streaking. I’m assuming that Corey followed the C.Quartz instructions, because there were next to no instructions with his order of Opti-Coat, so he assumed what was ok for C.Quartz would probably be ok for Opti-Coat.

Do you really want threads running to 4 pages in less than 24 hours every time a new guy attempts to use Opti-Coat and screws up?

If you don’t want to do that video, then talk to Dr. G and suggest that he does a deal with Mike Phillips to do a professional presentation on the usage of Opti-Coat. I’m sure you would agree that your 5 minute demonstration video is not exactly a quality production. The lack of instructions or video is ultimately going to cost sales, when you should be selling bucket loads of this stuff.

The product is revolutionary but it is not going to just sell itself without professional marketing. A professionally produced instructional video would go a long way to correcting the miscomprehensions that now exist on this and other forums.

Apologies for being so blunt but I believe if you discuss the above with Dr. G, then Optimum Polymer Technologies should be able to come up with something that addresses these usage issues.
:goodpost::iagree:
I say this even though I watched Chris' video and had no problems applying streak free coat. Actually I just used the same method I use to apply any sealant when I want to apply very thin.
 
I was planning to redo this video but here is one I shot a few weeks ago applying Opti-Coat(Guard). I still find I have to knock down high spots with a towel but the more I use the the better I get. I basically glide the towel over the panel with no pressure applied


It really is pretty easy to do, just take your time. I prefere to prime the pad by applying small dots/drops throughout the face of the applicator vs an "X".

YouTube - ‪Opti-Coat.wmv‬‏
 
I was planning to redo this video but here is one I shot a few weeks ago applying Opti-Coat(Guard). I still find I have to knock down high spots with a towel but the more I use the the better I get. I basically glide the towel over the panel with no pressure applied


It really is pretty easy to do, just take your time. I prefere to prime the pad by applying small dots/drops throughout the face of the applicator vs an "X".

[URL="http://youtu.be/dag0A2ogsjY?hd=1] - ‪Opti-Coat.wmv‬‏[/URL]

Boy, it sure seemed like applied a lot of product. It look like it was going on quite thick.
 
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