Review: Meguiars Wheel Brightner

[AutowerxDetailing]

It's comments like that that scare me. Most people do not know what they are dealing with. Do you realize it's calcium seeking (goes right for your bones)? That when it's diluted with water it becomes hydrofluoric acid? You can't wash it off your skin either. You need to rub calcium gluconate gel on the area. Soak your fingers in the straight mix for a while and I bet your nails turn black and fall off. Never ever underestimate the danger of a product like this. There is even a case where a professional car wash employee got a hydrofluoric acid product in her rubber glove and ignored it because she couldn't feel the pain. She ended up having a few fingers amputated. Sorry to rain on anyone's parade.

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Hi. I didn't read your articles but I just wanted to say that I use Meg's Wheel Brightener on almost every detail with neglected rims. I don't wear gloves and I don't use any special breathing apparatus. None of my fingers have melted off and I'm fairly certain I don't have lung cancer.

This is an amazing product. Don't spray it directly into your eyes, don't drink it, and wash it off your skin with soap if it gets on you. Use it as directed and you will get amazing results.

 

[FUNX650]

Hi. I didn't read your articles
but I just wanted to say that I use Meg's Wheel Brightener on almost every detail with neglected rims.

I don't wear gloves and I don't use any special breathing apparatus.
None of my fingers have melted off and I'm fairly certain I don't have lung cancer.

This is an amazing product.
Don't spray it directly into your eyes, don't drink it, and wash it off your skin with soap if it gets on you.
Use it as directed and you will get amazing results.

Although I can appreciate the amazing creativity and visual aesthetics of these processes...
The complexity of that structure presents considerable problems with implementing standards'-requirements
that will, undoubtably (and unfortunately), fall outside the scope of the AGO-forum's time constraints and budget.

Bob

 

[KS_Detailing]

Hi. I didn't read your articles but I just wanted to say that I use Meg's Wheel Brightener on almost every detail with neglected rims. I don't wear gloves and I don't use any special breathing apparatus. None of my fingers have melted off and I'm fairly certain I don't have lung cancer.

This is an amazing product. Don't spray it directly into your eyes, don't drink it, and wash it off your skin with soap if it gets on you. Use it as directed and you will get amazing results.

this thread is conflicting. But good to know that your not having any troubles. I would like to find something to take baked on brake dust away.

 

[KillaCam]

Hi. I didn't read your articles but I just wanted to say that I use Meg's Wheel Brightener on almost every detail with neglected rims. I don't wear gloves and I don't use any special breathing apparatus. None of my fingers have melted off and I'm fairly certain I don't have lung cancer.

This is an amazing product. Don't spray it directly into your eyes, don't drink it, and wash it off your skin with soap if it gets on you. Use it as directed and you will get amazing results.

You should read them, especially since you use it so often.

 

[PiPUK]

Hi. I didn't read your articles but I just wanted to say that I use Meg's Wheel Brightener on almost every detail with neglected rims. I don't wear gloves and I don't use any special breathing apparatus. None of my fingers have melted off and I'm fairly certain I don't have lung cancer.

This is an amazing product. Don't spray it directly into your eyes, don't drink it, and wash it off your skin with soap if it gets on you. Use it as directed and you will get amazing results.

With all respect, I should point out that you have publicly admitted to going against the directions you advise to follow. I quote from section 8 of the MSDS with regards to the PPE you should use (which, as a pro, I assume you have read):

Preventive skin protection: Neoprene Gloves.

For your information, I would not expect that skin melting or lung cancer (as you highlighted) to be your concern here. The risk is more down to weakening of your bones and kidney damage, through the effects of fluoride being absorbed through your skin. In the absence of skin protection and routine use, this should be a major concern. The problem is that you will simply not see a horrible effect in a single use - the fluoride level is low to ensure this is not the case. Unfortunately the fluoride builds up in your body so this means that regular doses like those you give to yourself will accumulate and you could well have issues in later life.

 

[Harry Da Hamster]

Hi. I didn't read your articles but I just wanted to say that I use Meg's Wheel Brightener on almost every detail with neglected rims. I don't wear gloves and I don't use any special breathing apparatus. None of my fingers have melted off and I'm fairly certain I don't have lung cancer.

This is an amazing product. Don't spray it directly into your eyes, don't drink it, and wash it off your skin with soap if it gets on you. Use it as directed and you will get amazing results.

Sorry i haven't really followed this thread.... but what's your dilution ratio?

 

[KillaCam]

With all respect, I should point out that you have publicly admitted to going against the directions you advise to follow. I quote from section 8 of the MSDS with regards to the PPE you should use (which, as a pro, I assume you have read):

Preventive skin protection: Neoprene Gloves.

For your information, I would not expect that skin melting or lung cancer (as you highlighted) to be your concern here. The risk is more down to weakening of your bones and kidney damage, through the effects of fluoride being absorbed through your skin. In the absence of skin protection and routine use, this should be a major concern. The problem is that you will simply not see a horrible effect in a single use - the fluoride level is low to ensure this is not the case. Unfortunately the fluoride builds up in your body so this means that regular doses like those you give to yourself will accumulate and you could well have issues in later life.

It advises using neoprene gloves. Would nitrile gloves also work? I wasn't sure how effective they are from protecting your skin against harsh chemicals.

 

[swanicyouth]

Although I can appreciate the amazing creativity and visual aesthetics of these processes...
The complexity of that structure presents considerable problems with implementing standards'-requirements
that will, undoubtably (and unfortunately), fall outside the scope of the AGO-forum's time constraints and budget.

Bob

?

Does anyone get what he is trying to say here?

 

[FUNX650]

It advises using neoprene gloves. Would nitrile gloves also work?
I wasn't sure how effective they are from protecting your skin against harsh chemicals.

Neoprene and butyl gloves are known to protect against hydrofluoric acid.
Always consult the manufacturer’s glove selection guide when selecting a glove for HF.

Examples of gloves' manufacturers for use with HF acid:
Best; Viton; ChemMaster; Ansell Sol-Vex, Ansell Neoprene; Orange Heavyweight;
Chemi-Pro; MAPA Trionic E-194; Stanzoil NK-22 and NK-34.

Source: ehs.osu.edu/

There are reports that some folks have used either 22-mil nitrile gloves, or double-up on two pairs of 8-mil gloves.
I, for one, do not advise doing so.



Bob

 

[AutowerxDetailing]

this thread is conflicting. But good to know that your not having any troubles. I would like to find something to take baked on brake dust away.

It's good stuff. I will usually follow up with Iron-X if it looks like WB didn't get everything in the first wash phase.

You should read them, especially since you use it so often.

I do intent to take a look. Just didn't read them at the moment. Perhaps it will change my opinion once read.

With all respect, I should point out that you have publicly admitted to going against the directions you advise to follow. I quote from section 8 of the MSDS with regards to the PPE you should use (which, as a pro, I assume you have read):

Preventive skin protection: Neoprene Gloves.

For your information, I would not expect that skin melting or lung cancer (as you highlighted) to be your concern here. The risk is more down to weakening of your bones and kidney damage, through the effects of fluoride being absorbed through your skin. In the absence of skin protection and routine use, this should be a major concern. The problem is that you will simply not see a horrible effect in a single use - the fluoride level is low to ensure this is not the case. Unfortunately the fluoride builds up in your body so this means that regular doses like those you give to yourself will accumulate and you could well have issues in later life.

I appreciate your perspective. And I would like to point out that I wasn't recommending that anyone NOT follow the directions. I just wanted to share my experience thus far of using the product... none of which has lead to any sort of chronic or acute medical problem.

With that being said I really only detail part time so I do maybe 2-3 cars per week MAX. If I was doing this in a shop setting, or with employees using it daily, I would require the use of PPE due to increased exposure.

The point I was trying to make was mainly that people shouldn't get their heads wrapped around an MSDS. Sure, this is a harmful chemical. But how many OTHER harmful chemicals are you willfully putting into your body on a daily basis? And isn't fluoride in our drinking water??? What the heck!!?? I need to read those articles...

Sorry i haven't really followed this thread.... but what's your dilution ratio?

I'm using 4:1.

 

[allenk4]

FUNX725...not so fun

MWB...great product

Love it, makes my breath fresh and my contact lenses very clean.

 

[FUNX650]

FUNX725...not so fun

Some folks wouldn't know what FUN was even if it hit them right square in the noggin'. LOL!!!

MWB...great product

Love it, makes my breath fresh and my contact lenses very clean.

Another fantastic reason to post the following:

Although I can appreciate the amazing creativity and visual aesthetics of these processes...
The complexity of that structure presents considerable problems with implementing standards'-requirements...
etc., etc.

Bob

 

[nissenc1337]

My results were no better than using Meg's Wheel Cleaner. So, now I am almost certain these marks on the wheel show the primer or bare metal and are not actually caked on brake dust.

I used 6oz of WB and 24oz of water.

 

[PiPUK]

The point I was trying to make was mainly that people shouldn't get their heads wrapped around an MSDS.

Again, with all respect, this is simply wrong. This product is designated for professional/trade use only. As such, it is implicitly assumed that users will do a health and safety assessment based on the information they will find in the MSDS. This isn't something that you can do, it is something you must do. Pro's have legal obligations in this area. If you aren't doing these things then you better hope the authorities never have reason to ask you questions and if you aren't a pro, you shouldn't be using this product.

I am sorry but the detailing industry is scandalously out of touch when it comes to health and safety.

 

[parttimer]

My results were no better than using Meg's Wheel Cleaner. So, now I am almost certain these marks on the wheel show the primer or bare metal and are not actually caked on brake dust.

I used 6oz of WB and 24oz of water.

I agree, looks like the paint or coating has failed there.

 

[Meticulous-Detail]

Unsubscribing, round and round we go.

 

[FUNX650]

Unsubscribing, round and round we go.

Sorry to hear this...
Did the: D140 "Fume-ing"...finally get to ya?!?!

{It Got To Me Too!!}



Bob

 

[Rsurfer]

My results were no better than using Meg's Wheel Cleaner. So, now I am almost certain these marks on the wheel show the primer or bare metal and are not actually caked on brake dust.

I used 6oz of WB and 24oz of water.

You should not be using MWB with those wheels.

 

[Meticulous-Detail]

My results were no better than using Meg's Wheel Cleaner. So, now I am almost certain these marks on the wheel show the primer or bare metal and are not actually caked on brake dust.

I used 6oz of WB and 24oz of water.

The clear and base have failed on those wheels. Are those the factory wheels on your Mustang? What were you using to clean them?

 

[KS_Detailing]

:bump:

Do you guys use WB on the inner barrels if the wheels are on the car? Also thinking about trying out WB with a foaming sprayer.