Gooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllll

Great point Corey. Lebron wont come to Orlando, well I hope not. I want to see Chris Paul join Dwight.
 
miami would make a dynasty team w/howard if they traded lebron. look @ the rebounding diff in the series
 
Anyone else who says "Lebron sucks" will immediately have swirls in their car! j/k! :)

I think the heat should stay together. They were successful with Boston and Chicago with Lebron being the go to guy and D. Wade being the side kick. I think those roles fit the team better. Lebron just got scared, thats all. If he would have played like he did in Chicago or Boston they would be holding the trophy.

So...no need to change the team, D. Howard can stay put.
 
Despite his loss Lebron is still the greatest player in Basketball right now!

Boo-ya!!! lol :awesome:
 
fishnugget said:
Despite his loss Lebron is still the greatest player in Basketball right now!

Boo-ya!!! lol :awesome:
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Wrong! :nomore:

With 2 other all stars... hell... one of them a superstar he still couldn't win.

I suppose its a matter of what you judge to be great.

If winning a high school trophy and being a great individual athlete is how you judge it then your right.

If leadership is a quality that makes the greatest basketball player then it's clear Dirk (and many others) is a far greater leader that makes the whole team better.

I think in the finals Dirk averaged close to 30 while Lebron averaged like 50% of that!
Lebron couldn't even rebound in the final game. 4 Rebounds...

:) All in good fun :) Just my opinion
 
Whats a lbj? Whats a lebron james?? What a maverick? Whats a basketball? Whats a dwade? :)
 
CEE DOG said:
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Wrong! :nomore:

With 2 other all stars... hell... one of them a superstar he still couldn't win.

I suppose its a matter of what you judge to be great.

If winning a high school trophy and being a great individual athlete is how you judge it then your right.

If leadership is a quality that makes the greatest basketball player then it's clear Dirk (and many others) is a far greater leader that makes the whole team better.

I think in the finals Dirk averaged close to 30 while Lebron averaged like 50% of that!
Lebron couldn't even rebound in the final game. 4 Rebounds...

:) All in good fun :) Just my opinion
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Dammit Corey!.....

Good points... :xyxthumbs:

Here is looking at it differently, :checkit:

It took Dirk 10+ years to finally get it down. Always called soft, esp. in the clutch. Even though he had a bad game the Mavs were the better team but did not have the best player. The Mavs had better chemistry and poise. They proved that by winning despite Dirks Ok game. Mavs have been together for a lot longer than Heat. Mavs proved you don't need the best player to win it. You need good players, chemistry and experience.

I know Lebron has been in the league for 5-6 years? Can't remember, but to do what they did for 1 season speaks volumes about Lebron and the other two. They will get better, better team, better chemistry, better awareness of roles, all with the best player and that is scary for the league.

I define Lebron as the best player by his athletic talent, abilities, and dominate defense which make him the best player in the league. His leadership, poise, and basketball IQ was there for most of the playoffs. He just came up short for the last 3-4 games, games that mattered most. :dblthumb2:

Watcha think?

I know I cant convince but it will happen next year if the Heat stay together. Just sharing my point of view. :)
 
The whole point here is that Lebron SUCKS, no need for anymore posts on the matter :D
 
fishnugget said:
Dammit Corey!.....

Good points... :xyxthumbs:

Here is looking at it differently, :checkit:

It took Dirk 10+ years to finally get it down. Always called soft, esp. in the clutch. Even though he had a bad game the Mavs were the better team but did not have the best player. The Mavs had better chemistry and poise. They proved that by winning despite Dirks Ok game. Mavs have been together for a lot longer than Heat. Mavs proved you don't need the best player to win it. You need good players, chemistry and experience.

I know Lebron has been in the league for 5-6 years? Can't remember, but to do what they did for 1 season speaks volumes about Lebron and the other two. They will get better, better team, better chemistry, better awareness of roles, all with the best player and that is scary for the league.

I define Lebron as the best player by his athletic talent, abilities, and dominate defense which make him the best player in the league. His leadership, poise, and basketball IQ was there for most of the playoffs. He just came up short for the last 3-4 games, games that mattered most. :dblthumb2:

Watcha think?

I know I cant convince but it will happen next year if the Heat stay together. Just sharing my point of view. :)
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I agree with some of your points and completely agree about how long it took Dirk and the Mavs. I was one of those people who called him soft because he was.
Just like Lebron sucks, Dirk was soft. Lebron James has been in the league 8 years. Dirk grew as a person because he has a humility that James does not.
If James improves mentally and spiritually and realizes he has room for improvement then he can win and be great.

However even if he wins chamionships he would basically have to turn into a different human being not to suck as a person.

Yes, Dirk had a bad night... and on that bad night here is how he matched up with James in the same game: (by the way I bet you anything he is still sick with a messed up equilibrium and his balance is affected.

Also, I believe Dirk had more points in the 4th quarter of his bad game (last night) than Lebron had in the last (5) 4th quarters combined.

Points:
Dirk-21
Lebron-21

Turnovers:
Dirk-2
Lebron-6

Rebounds:
Dirk-11
Lebron-4

Assists:
Dirk-1
Lebron-6

Steals:
Dirk-2
Lebron-1

The most important stat is this. With Lebron James in the game Miami was -24 points while with Dirk in the game the Mavs were -4.

And something that really tells the story is how bad Dirks teammates wanted to win it for him when he needed them to step up.
As opposed to Lebron who yells at his teammates and gives ra ra speeches that they can't respect. They know he could give a crap about the team. It's all about I with him and it shines through in everything he does and everything he says.

For instance: This is how he sees the world:


The rest of this post is copy pasted from hoopsworld

At first, it seemed like real progress for LeBron. He actually stuck around long enough to talk to the media after losing Game 6 of the NBA Finals last night. In the past he's been unwilling to address the media after losing a playoff series. Perhaps, we all thought for a minute, LeBron was really starting to grow up.
But then he opened his mouth.
"At the end of the day, all the people rooting for me to fail, they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life they had before they woke up today," James said. "They have the same personal problems they had today. I'm going to continue to live the way I want to live. . . . They can get a few days or a few months on being happy about not only myself but the Miami HEAT not accomplishing their goal, but they have to get back to the real world at some point."


It's no secret that I dislike LeBron James, and now that he's been under the 24/7/365 scrutiny of an entire team of beat writers and ESPN crews for 82 games plus the playoffs, the feeling is starting spread like wildfire. The more you're around LeBron, the more you see him, hear how he talks, and watch how he carries himself, the less you like him. The above statement is just fuel for the fire, but where to begin?
First of all, LeBron is making a huge assumption that everyone else is just a poor, unfortunate soul compared to him. Everyone else just has to find a little bit of respite from their miserable lives by taking a small amount of pleasure in LeBron's failure . . .and then it's back to being miserable all the time.
Second, he proves he hasn't learned anything at all. He's going to continue to live the way he wants to live. Remember the old story of the fox and the sour grapes from Aesop's Fables? The fox can't reach the delicious-looking grapes that hang from a very high branch and eventually decides they are probably sour anyway and just moves on.
Trust me, LeBron, the grapes aren't sour. Winning a championship is the single most distinguished accomplishment a professional athlete can achieve, no matter the sport. It takes a lot of hard work, a lot of determination, some degree of luck, and even a significant amount of soul-searching to be the absolute best. In the case of the Dallas Mavericks, Dirk Nowitzki had to learn to be a verbal leader, Jason Terry had to shake his annual playoff slump, Jason Kidd had to learn to hit the three consistently, and Mark Cuban had to learn to keep his mouth shut. All of these guys were able to look at themselves in the mirror and recognize that something had to change.
What about you, LeBron? Chosen One? King? What are we Witnessing, exactly? Narcissism at its worst?
The hope of the poor miserable souls who continue to hope for more out of you is that you'll take this loss to heart, learn something from it, maybe even come back a better player and a better person next season. But is that a rational hope?
"I'm going to continue to live the way I want to live. . . ."
How is that, exactly? Does it involve a commitment to being an NBA Champion one day? If so, you have a long way to go.
The mirror would be a great place to start.
As for the miserable souls around you, we'll be fine. We'll start by celebrating an amazing championship with some of the classiest professionals to ever put on an NBA jersey, and then we'll all go about our lives. We'll have new children, we'll enjoy hot summer days on the beach or at the lake, we'll work hard and we'll play hard, we'll have successes and we'll have failures, and through it all we will, hopefully, grow into ever-better people, day by day.
No need to have pity on us, LeBron, though we thank you for the patronizing and self-aggrandizing thought.
So long and thanks for thanks for all the fish, King James. I'm off to buy some Mavs championship gear, after which I will have some friends over for a backyard barbeque. We'll take a dip in the pool and celebrate summer, a Mavs championship, and the baby my wife is about to bring into the world. And yes, I'll raise a glass in your honor, thanking the basketball gods that for the next 12 months we can celebrate a true NBA champion like Dirk Nowitzki and perhaps hear a little bit less about overhyped players who don't understand what greatness really is
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Check this out (Interesting Article): Lebron is Pippen (Not Jordan)
Steve Kerr: LeBron James is no Michael Jordan, more like Scottie Pippen - ESPN Chicago
 
Yes, I agree with you on that,LJ needs to eat his humble pie, acts childish at times, and needs to grow a thick skin because he is going to need it all summer long. He put all that on himself.

This is another reason why I had no problem with Dirk winning because the guy has worked hard his entire career and deserved it more than anyone in the league as well as Jason Kidd.

I also agree that even if LJ does change people are going to have a hard time accepting him because of the drama that unfolded for this entire NBA season.

The only way people will get over it is if he starts winning championships. If the Heat don't win it next year or the year after it will be a total failure for them.

:cheers:
 
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