2007 Black BMW 335i Correction - TLC Auto Detail

wow! looks great. i think that sonax was working overtime! lol
 
NYCLR3 said:
I thought that picture of the antenna, was actually a hole in the car because of the reflection. really nice.
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Thanks! I went back and looked, and you're right! It does lookl ike a big hole! lol
erock said:
wow! looks great. i think that sonax was working overtime! lol
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Thanks! The sonax sure was working hard!
 
:xyxthumbs:But you didn't clean the inner wheel barrels??? That makes ALL the difference.

What's your hourly rate? $20 per? 8-9 hours tops, but the work looks great.
 
Shade Tree said:
:xyxthumbs:But you didn't clean the inner wheel barrels??? That makes ALL the difference.

What's your hourly rate? $20 per? 8-9 hours tops, but the work looks great.
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The wheels are being refinished due to all the curb rash so there was no point to take them off and get them spotless.

Also that seems like an awfully smartass comment about my rate and hours. Really not needed. I've got over 20 hours in that car, so....
 
Flannigan said:
The wheels are being refinished due to all the curb rash so there was no point to take them off and get them spotless.

Also that seems like an awfully smartass comment about my rate and hours. Really not needed. I've got over 20 hours in that car, so....
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Take the comment however you like. I was just asking. 20 hours seems like an exceptionally long time for this detail.

Yes, I did pay a compliment to you, but am guessing you missed that.
 
Shade Tree said:
Take the comment however you like. I was just asking. 20 hours seems like an exceptionally long time for this detail.

Yes, I did pay a compliment to you, but am guessing you missed that.
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I fail to see how you could do a true 3 step correction in less than 20 hours, especially on a car with paint like this. If you're correcting paint faster than that you're not doing it right.
 
This paint really isn't any worse than any BMW Jet Black would be due to regular washing/drying. Using the proper technique and products is what keeps jobs like this to no more than a full work day.

3 stage polishing is much easier on the Euro vehicle paint than that of Domestic paints. I've dealt with just about everything over the past 28+ years so maybe it's just plain experience that allows for these jobs to not take anymore than 8-9 hours. That 8-9 hours includes the engine (.5 hours max) and interior (1.5-2 hours max). That still leaves 6-7 hours worth of polishing time which should be more than adequate for a single person conducting the work.

This is constructive criticism and nothing more. When I'm curious about a post then I WILL ask questions. I didn't knock your work ........
 
Shade Tree said:
This paint really isn't any worse than any BMW Jet Black would be due to regular washing/drying. Using the proper technique and products is what keeps jobs like this to no more than a full work day.

3 stage polishing is much easier on the Euro vehicle paint than that of Domestic paints. I've dealt with just about everything over the past 28+ years so maybe it's just plain experience that allows for these jobs to not take anymore than 8-9 hours. That 8-9 hours includes the engine (.5 hours max) and interior (1.5-2 hours max). That still leaves 6-7 hours worth of polishing time which should be more than adequate for a single person conducting the work.

This is constructive criticism and nothing more. When I'm curious about a post then I WILL ask questions. I didn't knock your work ........
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What about washing the car, drying it, claying, iron x, sealing/waxing, dressing the trim, polishing the exhaust tips, sealing the glass, touching up paint chips, wet sanding scratches? Again if you are doing a 3 step correction in 10 hours you're missing something. It's not an opinion, thats a fact, no matter how much experience you have.
 
Flannigan said:
What about washing the car, drying it, claying, iron x, sealing/waxing, dressing the trim, polishing the exhaust tips, sealing the glass, touching up paint chips? Again if you are doing a 3 step correction in 10 hours you're missing something. It's not an opinion, thats a fact, no matter how much experience you have.
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No, it's an opinion on your part. I have posted my/our work not only here, but also amongst numerous other forums. I am more OCD than I will ever admit to and this keeps me from letting any vehicle go without thoroughly inspecting the quality whether it be my personal work or that of an employee.

Yes, 10 hours would be enough time to do everything you listed but you mentioned it taking 20 hours and that it is what I had initially questioned. If you believe a proper detail takes 10 - 20 hours then maybe it does ....... for YOU, but not for everyone. And yes, in that case anyone else might miss something. It just isn't the case on our end.

Polishing exhaust tips, paint chip repair, dressing trim and sealing glass do not take the extra time you suggest if you have a solid routine in place to take advantage of each and every minute spent in reconditioning a vehicle. IMHO, you're performing more work on the detail you show here than the actual benefits to the vehicle would allow. Besides, the majority of the services you listed are ALWAYS a part of a full detail, are they not.

I questioned 20 hours from start to finish. If I'm stepping on toes in doing so then ......... what can I say. I still make a valid point.

Proper routine = All available time used & not wasted.
 
I'm not going to argue anymore, but I don't get why you are surprised with my reaction when you come in here and tell me my service looks like it is worth less than $200. So maybe you can just go and #### on someone elses thread to make yourself feel better.
 
Dave. I have a question. The times that you have jeweled, do you do it all with a rotary? Have you done it with a DA before? If so, how do you compare the results from jeweling with a DA to a Rotary? :)
 
93fox said:
Dave. I have a question. The times that you have jeweled, do you do it all with a rotary? Have you done it with a DA before? If so, how do you compare the results from jeweling with a DA to a Rotary? :)
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IMO there is no such thing as jeweling with a DA. To me thats just finish polishing. I have never seen the same results from finishing with a DA that you can get with a rotary. Not to say it looks bad, but just not as good IMO. And it is an opinion since the difference is so tiny that most people outside of AGO wouldn't even notice it.
 
Flannigan said:
IMO there is no such thing as jeweling with a DA. To me thats just finish polishing. I have never seen the same results from finishing with a DA that you can get with a rotary. Not to say it looks bad, but just not as good IMO. And it is an opinion since the difference is so tiny that most people outside of AGO wouldn't even notice it.
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Hmm ive seen the difference to be very visible. Especially on black. I just love jeweling with the rotary, i tried it once with the DA and i kept scratching my head. I seriously thought something was wrong with my po85RD :p... i then realized that its the rotary the one that produces that finish you did on the bmw. Black in my opinion, always need jeweling for that final kick that makes it look dripping wet.

Another question, sorry if im bugging you, I see that you threw the PC in the middle. Did you use the DA in the middle to ensure that you removed any holograms left from compounding? Why not all 3 steps with the rotary?
 
93fox said:
Hmm ive seen the difference to be very visible. Especially on black. I just love jeweling with the rotary, i tried it once with the DA and i kept scratching my head. I seriously thought something was wrong with my po85RD :p... i then realized that its the rotary the one that produces that finish you did on the bmw. Black in my opinion, always need jeweling for that final kick that makes it look dripping wet.

Another question, sorry if im bugging you, I see that you threw the PC in the middle. Did you use the DA in the middle to ensure that you removed any holograms left from compounding? Why not all 3 steps with the rotary?
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Oscar, I would have to agree on black you can see a difference. Don't worry you're not bugging me at all!!! I did use the DA as a middle step to ensure no holograms since it was black. I have never had any trouble jeweling black hologram free, but that middle step can be tougher especially on BMW black.
 
Flannigan said:
Oscar, I would have to agree on black you can see a difference. Don't worry you're not bugging me at all!!! I did use the DA as a middle step to ensure no holograms since it was black. I have never had any trouble jeweling black hologram free, but that middle step can be tougher especially on BMW black.
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Got it! Good work man, it looks really nice. :xyxthumbs:
 
Dave,
You're a pri*k, and your work on this jet black BMW is flawless. Don't take any harm to the comment it is only out of jealousy hahaha.

Andrew
 
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