OptiCoat 2.0....any way to tell if it bonded?

[newb001]

It can be layered immediately after the first coat on a panel by panel basis...mostly to ensure even coverage, but yes it will be measurably thicker.

Does the extra thickness provide additional, noticeable, protection from swirls, etc.? Does it affect the look/feel?

Thanks as always Chris!

 

[dougaross]

Panel by panel to ensure even coverage. For instance: coat the panel then coat the panel again before moving to another area.



You may have to read a few of the introduction threads when the coating was pro only, but none of this is new.



No conspiracies here, Bob...before there was 2.0 there were several threads on the original coating that is pro only. It can be layered immediately after the first coat on a panel by panel basis...mostly to ensure even coverage, but yes it will be measurably thicker. My car beads everywhere, sheets where gravity allows, and if you blow dry water just flys off. The first video I ever posted about Opticoat 3-4 years ago shows this feature. So do yourself a favor before the flamers come for you and use the search feature if you are indeed interested in our coating.



You'll get both. Beads will form everywhere and when air or gravity get involved, it will look like sheeting. Sorry for the confusion. My YouTube is ChrisAtOptimum if you want a video demonstration.

There have been many posts about OC and its application. I wish somebody had made this more obvious. I would have certainly done it when I applied OC. I assume there is no recovery now.

 

[FUNX650]

Panel by panel to ensure even coverage. For instance: coat the panel then coat the panel again before moving to another area.



You may have to read a few of the introduction threads when the coating was pro only, but none of this is new.



No conspiracies here, Bob...before there was 2.0 there were several threads on the original coating that is pro only. It can be layered immediately after the first coat on a panel by panel basis...mostly to ensure even coverage, but yes it will be measurably thicker. My car beads everywhere, sheets where gravity allows, and if you blow dry water just flys off. The first video I ever posted about Opticoat 3-4 years ago shows this feature. So do yourself a favor before the flamers come for you and use the search feature if you are indeed interested in our coating.



You'll get both. Beads will form everywhere and when air or gravity get involved, it will look like sheeting. Sorry for the confusion. My YouTube is ChrisAtOptimum if you want a video demonstration.

Thanks Chris for your replies! I also appreciate your courteous consideration for my being subjected to "flamers". Also, your suggestion to use the "search feature" is duly noted.

By using the "search feature" (or in this particular case...referrencing my posts on this thread) anyone and everyone would have been aware that I stated: "I would be delighted one day (soon) to have a Coating such as Opti-Gard, Opti-Coat 2.0, or even one of the other ones, applied to my vehicles. That is why I am following people's progress with these Coatings, with deep interest, for more of these products' information that's being shared".
IMHO... Proof positive I have shown interest in your Coating.

Once again, the "search feature" would have yielded the results of my being "flamed" and my responses to such "flaming". As such, and, by virtue of my current typing/responding, the consequences that I've incurred due to "flaming/responding-to-flaming" are practically nil. Time is the Great Determiner, though.

Probably no conspiracies, but, others seem to have similar feelings I have about the timeliness of information that's presented in regards to not only yours, but other Coatings as well. To wit...A very recent posting by dougaross:

"There have been many posts about OC and its application. I wish somebody had made this more obvious. I would have certainly done it when I applied OC. I assume there is no recovery now"

Conspiratorial or not....RE: Beading/Sheeting

The description so set forth by you and others can apply to a host of LSP products. Nothing new there. Everybody should know that. However, the impression I have is: Some waxes and sealants exhibit 'more sheeting' than others. I was hoping that Coatings, your included, would fall into the 'more sheeting' category. "Water-Beading", unless removed immediately or as soon as possible, to me, is a harbinger of water-spotting/etching. What I was in hopes of was a more transparent, forthright reply to that concern. That's all.

{Note: When I speak of disingenuous, an example that comes to mind is when I think of wheel cleaning products that say they contain no HF. The way I look at it is: If those same wheel cleaning products contain ammonium biflouride, (ABF), (or any other chemical names it goes by), then that is, IMHO, being disingenous.}

So yes! I'm still interested in your Coatings. The reasons for my inquiries is: I feel all of my concerns have not, to present date, been fully answered.

As well, I have never bashed/flamed people or any products on this or any other forums, or even in person-to-person contact. These inquiries about Coatings, yours included, should also, by no means, be interpreted as such either. I just rack it up to my inquisitive nature.

Again, Chris, many thanks for your replies.

Bob

 

[Chris Thomas]

Does the extra thickness provide additional, noticeable, protection from swirls, etc.? Does it affect the look/feel?

Thanks as always Chris!

Thickness is just thickness. It will look the same and perform the same.

There have been many posts about OC and its application. I wish somebody had made this more obvious. I would have certainly done it when I applied OC. I assume there is no recovery now.

I'm sorry you feel like you weren't sufficiently informed. There are posts about the coating going back 5 years and spread over several forums, so it would be quite time consuming for you to research every post prior to application. If you ever need an answer and cannot find it, feel free to contact me via PM or email me [email protected]. I will get back to you within one business day...probably quicker.

Thanks Chris for your replies! I also appreciate your courteous consideration for my being subjected to "flamers". Also, your suggestion to use the "search feature" is duly noted.

Probably no conspiracies, but, others seem to have similar feelings I have about the timeliness of information that's presented in regards to not only yours, but other Coatings as well. To wit...A very recent posting by dougaross:

"There have been many posts about OC and its application. I wish somebody had made this more obvious. I would have certainly done it when I applied OC. I assume there is no recovery now"

Conspiratorial or not....RE: Beading/Sheeting

The description so set forth by you and others can apply to a host of LSP products. Nothing new there. Everybody should know that. However, the impression I have is: Some waxes and sealants exhibit 'more sheeting' than others. I was hoping that Coatings, your included, would fall into the 'more sheeting' category. "Water-Beading", unless removed immediately or as soon as possible, to me, is a harbinger of water-spotting/etching. What I was in hopes of was a more transparent, forthright reply to that concern. That's all.

Again, Chris, many thanks for your replies.

Bob

Your quite welcome, Bob...and my offer of assistance to dougaross extends to you and all the other members here at Autogeek. I understand that sometimes you guys want to here from other Autogeekers, but if you want to hear from the manufacturer just PM me.

Regarding beading/sheeting: Because so much can be lost within text and by different interpretation of words. I would invite you to look at the videos I have posted on youtube so that you can see for your self what attributes Opti Coat offers. I have an application video, one showing how water just flies off with a blower, one showing high and low pressure rinsing, and one showing how even foam just slides away. My YouTube channel is "ChrisAtOptimum" minus the quotes. All of the videos except the application one were shot and posted on the forums about 4 years ago. the January 2011 date is just when I added them to YouTube (used to use Photobucket).

Regarding water spots: I don't think anyone should allow water to sit on the car...coated or not. Water droplets act as magnifying glasses as they superheat and evaporate leaving the solid minerals behind. I think this process of deposits may be lessened with the coating, but I'm also certain that the coating will still spot if the water is "hard enough" and left long enough. My best advice is to at least keep some QD in the car and never leave the car wet after a wash without at least a blow dry.

 

[FUNX650]

Your quite welcome, Bob...and my offer of assistance to dougaross extends to you and all the other members here at Autogeek. I understand that sometimes you guys want to here from other Autogeekers, but if you want to hear from the manufacturer just PM me.

Thanks again, Chris, for your reply.

I will try not to post too many more questions on this forum in regards to Opti-Coatings, though I can't promise the same in respect of your offer to email you directly.

Have a good "rest of the day".

Bob

 

[dougaross]

Thickness is just thickness. It will look the same and perform the same.



I'm sorry you feel like you weren't sufficiently informed. There are posts about the coating going back 5 years and spread over several forums, so it would be quite time consuming for you to research every post prior to application. If you ever need an answer and cannot find it, feel free to contact me via PM or email me [email protected]. I will get back to you within one business day...probably quicker.



Your quite welcome, Bob...and my offer of assistance to dougaross extends to you and all the other members here at Autogeek. I understand that sometimes you guys want to here from other Autogeekers, but if you want to hear from the manufacturer just PM me.

Regarding beading/sheeting: Because so much can be lost within text and by different interpretation of words. I would invite you to look at the videos I have posted on youtube so that you can see for your self what attributes Opti Coat offers. I have an application video, one showing how water just flies off with a blower, one showing high and low pressure rinsing, and one showing how even foam just slides away. My YouTube channel is "ChrisAtOptimum" minus the quotes. All of the videos except the application one were shot and posted on the forums about 4 years ago. the January 2011 date is just when I added them to YouTube (used to use Photobucket).

Regarding water spots: I don't think anyone should allow water to sit on the car...coated or not. Water droplets act as magnifying glasses as they superheat and evaporate leaving the solid minerals behind. I think this process of deposits may be lessened with the coating, but I'm also certain that the coating will still spot if the water is "hard enough" and left long enough. My best advice is to at least keep some QD in the car and never leave the car wet after a wash without at least a blow dry.

Chris, You have been a great help and a fantastic resource regarding the Optimum products. And I am most appreciative of your offer.