Durable wax

Prophizee said:
Thats alot great info guys i am going too do some research on all the products that you guys advised me to get and see where i go from there. Thank you gentlemen once again.
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Zainos- Super long lasting- Get it at their website.
 
Collinite...... any of their paint waxes.... #845 is the easiest to use though.
 
Julesh said:
I got some wolfgang 3.0 sealant in my stainless steel sink when I cleaned my pads.

It pushed water off the sink for about a week despite being bombarded daily with dawn and harsh foods.

I kept turning on the water just to watch it spread away from the sealed patch as soon as I turned the water off. Seems pretty durable.
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Julesh said:
My advice is get something that is easy to apply and reapply before it breaks down. The prep work of claying and polishing is the hard part but you shouldnt have to do that every time you reapply a sealant.
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Very good advice, that's exactly what I'm talking about here,


"Find something you like and use it often"



Mike Phillips said:
So when you see me type,

"Find something you like and use it often"


Here's what that means,

If you like a product, that usually means you like the experience of using it which includes application, that is you like how the product applies. It also tends to mean you like how the product removes, that is you like how the product wipes-off. It can also mean you like how fast or slow it dries or the fact that it doesn't have to dry at all and you can wipe it off immediately.

And usually and most important, it means you like how it makes the paint on your car look and that's a huge part of the big picture of owning and enjoying your car, truck or s.u.v. or special interest car.

You can't really know which product you like best until you've used a variety of products so finding something you like and using it often means you have to do some research and at some point make some purchases and then go out into your garage and do some testing to gain real world knowledge and experience.

At some point you will find a product you like and if you use it often then your car's paint will always look good because it's only when you neglect your car's paint that it goes downhill.

Just the simple act of applying and working-in and over the paint a smooth, creamy product, (that is formulated to make paint look good), has a polishing-effect and if done on a regular basis will preserve and maintain a clear, glossy finish and isn't that the primary goal of those that consider them serious car enthusiasts?

How often you have to repeat this process to maintain your car's finish to a quality level you expect for your car's appearance depends upon how the car is used and where it's parked when not in use.

A daily driver that is parked outside most of the time, either at work or at home, will need to be maintained more regularly than a Garage Queen that is only driven on sunny days. So adjust your car maintenance schedule to fit your lifestyle and the way you use your car.
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Prophizee said:
Hey guys I have a silver Nissan rouge. It's not garage kept sad to say and I was wondering what a great wax that is extremely durable... Or sealant which obviously will be mote durable then wax. Thanks in advance for all the help
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What is your definition/perception of "extremely durable"? You state that a sealant is obviously more durable than wax......



I equate durability with the concept of: Fracture Point...at what maximum temperature does a given wax/sealant/'hybrid'/coating "begin to melt"/deteriorate? I take into account that once that maximum temperature has been reached, the rate of further deterioration is exponentially increased.


The media one washes/dry a vehicle with; the climate/environmental conditions the vehicle is exposed to (among other factors); also, IMO, will have an affect on a product's durability.

Bob
 
Menzerna Power Lock topped with Collinite 845. Got the suggestion from BobbyG and have used it on two cars so far. Looks amazing, I haven't had a chance to test durability because it hasn't been on all that long but from what everyone always says about 845, it should last a long time. My cars are also outside 24/7 + I drive about 5000 miles a month so my car see's a LOT of rocks, dust, dirt, UV, ect. Good luck!
 
Hey gentlemen sorry for not responding to my own topic been a little busy but after tons of research I think Collinite is what i am leaning towards seems that most people here concur that will be able to stand the elements. I have one final question and I hate to ask this but does anyone have any samples of the collinite... I would greatly appreciate so I know i choose wisely before dropping some more money on products. Mind you i am not looking for freebie at all more then willing to pay for a sample. Once again thank you gentlemen for all the fantastic advice. This is why autogeek forum is the best i have ever been on you guys are always so friendly and so helpful I really am
grateful thank you
Prophizee
 
Prophizee said:
Hey gentlemen sorry for not responding to my own topic been a little busy but after tons of research I think Collinite is what i am leaning towards seems that most people here concur that will be able to stand the elements. I have one final question and I hate to ask this but does anyone have any samples of the collinite... I would greatly appreciate so I know i choose wisely before dropping some more money on products. Mind you i am not looking for freebie at all more then willing to pay for a sample. Once again thank you gentlemen for all the fantastic advice. This is why autogeek forum is the best i have ever been on you guys are always so friendly and so helpful I really am
grateful thank you
Prophizee
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At one time Collinite would send out small samples . I dont know if they still do .Call them and ask.
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Interesting...
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I attempted to get a video of it.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xI2NZLmJT4]Wolfgang Sealant 3.0 in my sink - YouTube[/video]
This is about a week after it ended up on my sink. The water is being pushed off the hazy patch that ended up being applied to my sink after I placed a hand-polishing pad face down in the sink and pushed down on it to attempt to squeeze the sealant out.

The sealant lasted for about 10 days and it slowly shrunk in size and disappeared almost completely over the 11th and 12th day.

But it was hit with Dawn A LOT because I am a clean freak and wash my hands a lot. Also it was hit with Ketchup, Mayo, and spaghetti sauce and all kinds of food.
 
To the OP, Where are you located in regards to a sample of 845. IF in SoCal I can give you enough to do a car with.
 
Prophizee said:
Hey gentlemen sorry for not responding to my own topic been a little busy but after tons of research I think Collinite is what i am leaning towards seems that most people here concur that will be able to stand the elements. I have one final question and I hate to ask this but does anyone have any samples of the collinite... I would greatly appreciate so I know i choose wisely before dropping some more money on products. Mind you i am not looking for freebie at all more then willing to pay for a sample. Once again thank you gentlemen for all the fantastic advice. This is why autogeek forum is the best i have ever been on you guys are always so friendly and so helpful I really am
grateful thank you
Prophizee
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Collinite is very inexpensive. So do not sweat it.
 
Hi, Prophizee:

There are a lot of products you can use that will be durable for an outside vehicle's paint. Whatever you use, it has to be something you like to use, that is easy to use for your inclinations (how much or little time you wish to spend waxing the vehicle, how often, etc.). Most paste waxes are going to work great in inclement weather. Some synthetic liquid waxes have UV protectants.

Whatever you choose to use, you will have to reapply it once a year, or more often if you wish. So that means if you prepare the paint first (with detailing/ overspray clay, take out small scratches, discoloration, etc) and then apply any paste wax, even if it costs only $2.50 a can, you can have good protection for at least 6 months.

It is the other care you have to deal with periodically that will make or break the longevity of your finish.

:detailer:
 
The Heater said:
Hi, Prophizee:

There are a lot of products you can use that will be durable for an outside vehicle's paint. Whatever you use, it has to be something you like to use, that is easy to use for your inclinations (how much or little time you wish to spend waxing the vehicle, how often, etc.). Most paste waxes are going to work great in inclement weather. Some synthetic liquid waxes have UV protectants.

Whatever you choose to use, you will have to reapply it once a year, or more often if you wish. So that means if you prepare the paint first (with detailing/ overspray clay, take out small scratches, discoloration, etc) and then apply any paste wax, even if it costs only $2.50 a can, you can have good protection for at least 6 months.

It is the other care you have to deal with periodically that will make or break the longevity of your finish.

:detailer:
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Well actually I have two cars the Nissan rogue and 2011 m3 coupe. The coupe is hardly driven but whenever I do take it out for an entire weekend, if the weather is suitable I clean for about 3 days doing little bits here and there so all together I would probally spend about 8-12 hours doing what I have to do... This car is garage kept. The rogue is a different story since I drive everyday I cant really use a wax polish or glaze that requires a curing time because the car is always going some where. So that where the problem comes in. On the rogue i want something that is easy and will only take maybe three hours to finish up. On m3 I use only wolfgang megs and mothers products. But on rogue I have experimenting with many different products and it just doesn't seem to hold the wax that long and it just gets really frustrating. Im kind of a clean freak when it comes to cars lol. But just to clarify I love detailing my cars it actually relaxes me and gets me very focused at the same time. Also it gets me away from everyone so I get enjoy my babies one on one and get some alone time. Idk if that made any sense..... By the way I live in jersey but thanks for the offer any way I appreciate it.
 
I would love to see a $2.50/can wax last for 6 months. Hell there are $100/can waxes that don't last that long...
 
The Heater said:
Whatever you choose to use, you will have to reapply it once a year, or more often if you wish. So that means if you prepare the paint first (with detailing/ overspray clay, take out small scratches, discoloration, etc) and then apply any paste wax, even if it costs only $2.50 a can, you can have good protection for at least 6 months.
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I'll say it again since my last post disappeared, I would like to know what world you living in.
 
There are "$2.50" cans of wax, and yes they do last up to 12 months. No, I don't sell any of them, but I have purchased the cheapest paste waxes out there and used them first on something like my Kubota tractor, to test it, then on one of my cars, my trailer or one of my motorcycles. On cars I leave outdoors year round, it has not made any difference if I put Kit wax, Turtle Wax, Mequiar's, 3M Show Car Wax, Klasse, etc. They all last about the same time with the paste waxes lasting the longest.

I have actually seen the most longevity from Johnson's Paste Wax, which you find in the soap and polish section of your grocery store. But it is too hard to rub out on an entire car to suit me. (and I am pretty sure it costs less than $3.00)
 
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