Important notice about Fog Fight !!!

[Avi@CarPro]

Hi Guys

lately there were some confusion about the Fog Fight application

so i researched this with our engineers and made some tests!

we found out that the room temp effect allot the curing of the coat on the glass and thats why it can make the streak or haze if its wiped off too soon..
so here is the update about the application :

let cure before wipe off !!!!
-5 ~ 20 deg.C = 10 min
20 ~ 30 deg.C = 1 min.
make sure you apply on dry surface!! and full covering the glass while applying , spray even twice to fully cover everything
this will prevent the streaks and haze you got..

 

[ryanmcg1]

Thanks for the update! I was starting to have second thoughts with everybody's experience but knew the carpro prod. I tried was great to me so next in my cart. Thanks again and glad to see someone else up this early in the morning I'm at work won't get sleep for another 4 hrs.

 

[BobbyG]

Hi Guys

lately there were some confusion about the Fog Fight application

so i researched this with our engineers and made some tests!

we found out that the room temp effect allot the curing of the coat on the glass and thats why it can make the streak or haze if its wiped off too soon..
so here is the update about the application :

let cure before wipe off !!!!
-5 ~ 20 deg.C = 10 min
20 ~ 30 deg.C = 1 min.
make sure you apply on dry surface!! and full covering the glass while applying , spray even twice to fully cover everything
this will prevent the streaks and haze you got..

That's some really good information to have Avi, thanks for posting!! rops:

 

[umi000]

I agree that it's good information, but I have to question why it was not included in the original product instructions. Seems like the product was not tested in a sufficient range of conditions prior to release.

I've noticed various threads with the same issue - incorrect/inadequate instructions - with regards to CQuartz curing. I hope this post isn't taken the wrong way, but rather looked on as constructive criticism - as something that can be improved on. After all, not everyone who buys these products will frequent various forums and discover these updated instructions.

 

[CEE DOG]

Thanks for the update Avi. That's good to know. I was actually curious about the application and wiping earlier method. I haven't used the fogfight yet myself.

 

[mdb917]

Hi Guys

lately there were some confusion about the Fog Fight application

so i researched this with our engineers and made some tests!

we found out that the room temp effect allot the curing of the coat on the glass and thats why it can make the streak or haze if its wiped off too soon..
so here is the update about the application :

let cure before wipe off !!!!
-5 ~ 20 deg.C = 10 min
20 ~ 30 deg.C = 1 min.
make sure you apply on dry surface!! and full covering the glass while applying , spray even twice to fully cover everything
this will prevent the streaks and haze you got..

For those of us who deal with temperatures in Fahrenheit here is the conversion:
23 - 68 (degrees F) = 10 min
68 - 86 (degrees F) = 1 min

 

[Avi@CarPro]

I agree that it's good information, but I have to question why it was not included in the original product instructions. Seems like the product was not tested in a sufficient range of conditions prior to release.

I've noticed various threads with the same issue - incorrect/inadequate instructions - with regards to CQuartz curing. I hope this post isn't taken the wrong way, but rather looked on as constructive criticism - as something that can be improved on. After all, not everyone who buys these products will frequent various forums and discover these updated instructions.

Fog Fight was tested in this winter time, but since any chemical coat is vary reaction on the environment temp/humidity we cant control or test all over the world.
the application is correct for normal winter condition(dry atmosphere) ,for very cold temp and humid it need to cure more time on surface.
many customers around the world which we sold lately didnt have any issue with the fogfight.
since its very low consumption per windscreen, (round 10ml) , only lately launched it and easy to remove it , i dont see much "damaged" done for updating the application so quickly.
you are right , it should be on the sticker, and it will, but until then, thats fast update.

 

[shoeless89]

I agree that it's good information, but I have to question why it was not included in the original product instructions. Seems like the product was not tested in a sufficient range of conditions prior to release.

I've noticed various threads with the same issue - incorrect/inadequate instructions - with regards to CQuartz curing. I hope this post isn't taken the wrong way, but rather looked on as constructive criticism - as something that can be improved on. After all, not everyone who buys these products will frequent various forums and discover these updated instructions.

:iagree:

 

[shoeless89]

I think we are just implying in general. The instructions on a few a products are a little vague.

 

[toycar18]

It seems like every manufacturer makes something in the lab and it goes straight to production.

I wish every company would test more in the real world. Give samples to professional detailers and have them play with it. Heck, I would over test everything before selling a product then you would avoid problems.It may cost more up front but at least you won't have to redo a label or change a formulation, or lose out on sales because people don't trust your new products.

It makes me wanna stay away from CarPro's new products. I know some are great but the history of problems on new products is getting old. Don't take it personally - take it as constructive criticism and make your product line and reputation better.

 

[Flash Gordon]

For those of us who deal with temperatures in Fahrenheit here is the conversion:
23 - 68 (degrees F) = 10 min
68 - 86 (degrees F) = 1 min

:thankyousign:

We're not in Canada Avi :doh:

 

[watson1000]

:thankyousign:

We're not in Canada Avi :doh:

Flash , here is some info for you


Every country in the world has adopted the Metric System accept for Liberia, Myanmar and the U.S.A.


A number of countries, including Canada and the United Kingdom, use imperial for some things. For instance, Canada measures human heights and cooking ingredients using imperial measure. Britain measures human weight in stone (which is even more antiquitated than the American standards of measurement) and road distances in miles.

 

[IID]

Flash , here is some info for you


Every country in the world has adopted the Metric System accept for Liberia, Myanmar and the U.S.A.


A number of countries, including Canada and the United Kingdom, use imperial for some things. For instance, Canada measures human heights and cooking ingredients using imperial measure. Britain measures human weight in stone (which is even more antiquitated than the American standards of measurement) and road distances in miles.

Yes,but this is an a American(USA)based forum.Where the MAJORITY of us members are using the "English" system

 

[watson1000]

Yes,but this is an a American(USA)based forum.Where the MAJORITY of us members are using the "English" system

I didn't mean to offend anyone , just stating that Canada is not the only country using the metric system. Happy New Year

 

[IID]

I didn't mean to offend anyone , just stating that Canada is not the only country using the metric system. Happy New Year

:cheers:

 

[Flash Gordon]

Yes,but this is an a American(USA)based forum.Where the MAJORITY of us members are using the "English" system

:iagree: I think by using the metric system you are adding confusion to your target audience. The market share is tight enough w/out adding confusing IMO

I didn't mean to offend anyone , just stating that Canada is not the only country using the metric system. Happy New Year

What made me say Canada is that I'm wearing a sweatshirt today that says Canada

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[IID]

BTW,I have tried several application methods and technique's of the Fog-Fight but I cannot get it to cure/finish crystal clear.It either finishes cloudy or streaky
I want to have confidence in it but I have yet to find it visually acceptable(house,vehicle,shop)?

 

[Black Car]

This is a great product. I applied it in the cold (approx 40 F) wiped it off. When I got in the car a few hours later I did notice the oilyness but wiped it off with a fresh mf from the trunk...no big deal. I also used it on my bathroom mirror. Excellent stuff.

 

[IID]

This is a great product. I applied it in the cold (approx 40 F) wiped it off. When I got in the car a few hours later I did notice the oilyness but wiped it off with a fresh mf from the trunk...no big deal. I also used it on my bathroom mirror. Excellent stuff.

From what I've read on multiple forums,you are definitely NOT the norm.

After curing and final wipe,the product should not be touched again(Per Avi).I cleaned/wiped again, all applied Fog-Fight cloudiness/streaking,to an acceptable finish.I have yet to see the effectiveness of the product and hope all is well.If it is,where does that leave durability of it?

 

[IOMCAMARO]

I have not had a problem with this product. I did one swipe with the suede towel and followed it with a glass towel. It has cured clear and looks just like normal glass without the extra fog.