Will a wetsand and buff do the trick?

[heyhi]

Hey guys, new here. I saw a guy on youtube wetsand a scratch with 2k grit and buff it out came out good.
Can I use this technique on my car? It's not a scratch, my cousin scraped a black gate and i have black paint on my fender.


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How far do I sand down with out doing damage? What do I buff it with?
Never done this before, dont wanna mess up can u give me a step my step and what to use? The only thing is I dont have a grinder or sander, Il be using a wheel attachment for a drill. Im kind of on a budget.

 

[Flash Gordon]

Hey guys, new here. I saw a guy on youtube wetsand a scratch with 2k grit and buff it out came out good.
Can I use this technique on my car? It's not a scratch, my cousin scraped a black gate and i have black paint on my fender.


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How far do I sand down with out doing damage? What do I buff it with?

If thats just black paint, claybar will do the trick

If you wetsand be extra careful around that lip

 

[SkateForGirl]

If its black paint then you wont need to wetsand it. Its just paint transfer and some buffing or clay should do the trick.

 

[AntC]

If thats just black paint, claybar will do the trick

If you wetsand be extra careful around that lip

Agreed, at worst you can use a compound and remove that by hand

 

[Setec Astronomy]

I would absolutely not wetsand that if you have no experience doing that. It's hard to tell from that picture, but if it was a metal grate I'm going to guess that you have a combination of paint transfer, paint removal down to the primer, and paint removal down to the metal.

The lower portion seems to be on the flexible bumper cover, so that won't rust, but the upper portion will. IMO you need to start with a good solventy paint cleaner and get the paint transfer off and see what you have. I'm guessing you are working by hand, I would recommend the Meguiar's Deep Crystal Step 1 if they still make that, if not maybe someone can recommend a Mother's OTC product.

Maybe some of the other members can chime in, the products that I have and would use for that kind of paint transfer are (really old) Meg's #2, DC1, MPPC, and Body Scrub. I know they don't make Body Scrub or MPPC anymore, and #2 has been reformulated a couple of times since I got mine. I guess Poorboy's ProPolish might be good since that's good and solventy.

 

[heyhi]

If thats just black paint, claybar will do the trick

If you wetsand be extra careful around that lip

You guys think a claybar will remover the paint from the gate?

 

[Setec Astronomy]

You guys think a claybar will remover the paint from the gate?

No. But maybe Flash runs into more gates than I do, or runs into more people that run into gates.

 

[heyhi]

I would absolutely not wetsand that if you have no experience doing that. It's hard to tell from that picture, but if it was a metal grate I'm going to guess that you have a combination of paint transfer, paint removal down to the primer, and paint removal down to the metal.

The lower portion seems to be on the flexible bumper cover, so that won't rust, but the upper portion will. IMO you need to start with a good solventy paint cleaner and get the paint transfer off and see what you have. I'm guessing you are working by hand, I would recommend the Meguiar's Deep Crystal Step 1 if they still make that, if not maybe someone can recommend a Mother's OTC product.

Maybe some of the other members can chime in, the products that I have and would use for that kind of paint transfer are (really old) Meg's #2, DC1, MPPC, and Body Scrub. I know they don't make Body Scrub or MPPC anymore, and #2 has been reformulated a couple of times since I got mine. I guess Poorboy's ProPolish might be good since that's good and solventy.

Im going to take another look at it and see if its scratched. I think its just paint . If I use a paint cleaner will that affect the white paint?

 

[Flash Gordon]

You guys think a claybar will remover the paint from the gate?

Absolutely

I would use a red claybar on that using APC as lube. The APC will eat up your clay, but will speed up the process

A solventy type polish/compound will work to as already stated

No. But maybe Flash runs into more gates than I do, or runs into more people that run into gates.

There is hardly a day that goes by that I'm not removing "garage door paint" or "yellow pole paint" off someones car

 

[Gurge]

Maybe some of the other members can chime in, the products that I have and would use for that kind of paint transfer are (really old) Meg's #2, DC1, MPPC, and Body Scrub. I know they don't make Body Scrub or MPPC anymore, and #2 has been reformulated a couple of times since I got mine. I guess Poorboy's ProPolish might be good since that's good and solventy.

stoner's tarminator with a MF towel will reveal whats paint transfer and whats real damage

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Im going to take another look at it and see if its scratched. I think its just paint . If I use a paint cleaner will that affect the white paint?

I find clay never works for me on paint transfers, it may remove some, but not nearly all. House paint usually responds well to paint cleaners with solvent in them, I'm not sure what your gate was painted with. Auto paint is usually a little tougher to remove.

The paint cleaner (for cars) should have no (detrimental) effect on your white paint. You could also try a product like Prepsol/Prep-all which are solvent-based degreasers intended to be used as pre-painting prep on automotive surfaces--that may take your black paint right off.

 

[Flash Gordon]

If I use a paint cleaner will that affect the white paint?

No

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

From may article list under working by hand...



Polishing Paint by Hand

Foam Applicator Pads at Autogeek.net

Priming your pad when working by hand

Removing Scratches By Hand

How to use a hand applied abrasive polish or paint cleaner by hand

How To Remove Paint Transfer <-- This one

How to clay, clean and wax paint by hand with Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion and Pinnacle Signature Series II Carnauba Paste Wax

1-Step versus 3-Step Process by Hand

Man versus Machine




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[Setec Astronomy]

Ok, you've got the guys here that do this every day, I'll leave it to them now.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

How To Remove Paint Transfer

Paint Transfer is a term used to describe when the paint off of some other object is transferred onto you car's finish usually by some kind of accident.

My friend Rob is a Fitness Instructor at the gym I work out at and someone, somehow sideswiped his 2006 Ford Mustang GT and in so doing took off is side mirror and transferred some white paint onto his car's finish along with instilling some marring and scratches.

Luckily the damage wasn't worse!

Here's how you can remove paint transfer by hand using a light paint cleaner. For this example I'll use Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion.

Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion non-abrasive, it is designed to safely take off old wax, embedded road grime and pollution that washing will not remove. It prepares the surface for waxing by creating a clean, smooth, highly-reflective surface.

This is a very mild polish and because it's non-abrasive I'm going to apply and work it with a microfiber applicator pad, in this situation were using the nap of the microfiber as our abrasive along with the lubrication and cleaning ability of Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion to gently remove the offending paint.

If you find Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion is not aggressive enough, you can use XMT Heavy Duty Swirl Remover #4 Polishing Compound. This is very aggressive rubbing compound and after using it you will need to follow it with a less aggressive product.

Place a small amount of Paintwork Cleansing Lotion onto the face of your applicator pad...

Next work the polish and applicator against the transferred paint putting a little passion behind the pad but don't push too hard or you could instill fingermarks just from the concentrated pressure from your fingertips...

After working the product for about a minute, stop and inspect to check your progress.. You can see most of the paint transfer has been removed but not 100% of it. Sometimes you many need to repeat the process a few times to completely remove the paint transfer.

After you've successfully removed the paint transfer you can apply a protective coat of wax or paint sealant or like I've done here, machine polished the paint and then machine waxed the paint.

Looks as good as new and now Rob's going to have the mirror replaced.

Thanks Rob for bringing your car to Autogeek's Show Car Garage!

Products Used
Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion
Cobra Indigo Microfiber Polishing Cloth
Cobra Microfiber Applicator Pads
Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Car Wax


Further Resources
How to use a hand applied abrasive polish or paint cleaner by hand


Paint Cleaners at Autogeek.net
Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion
Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer
3M Scratch Remover
Dodo Juice Lime Prime Lite Cleaner Glaze
Dodo Juice Lime Prime Pre-Wax Cleanser Polish
Duragloss PreCleaner
1Z Einszett Paint Polish
Four Star Ultimate PreWax Cleanser
Griot's Garage Fine Hand Polish
Liquid Glass Pre-Cleaner
Meguiars SCRATCH X 2.0
Meguiars SwirlX Swirl Remover
Mothers California Gold Pre-Wax Cleaner
Mothers California Gold Scratch Remover
P21S Gloss Enhancing Paintwork Cleanser
Poorboy's World Professional Polish
SONAX Premium Class Paint Cleaner
SONAX Paint Cleaner


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[Flash Gordon]

Ok, you've got the guys here that do this every day, I'll leave it to them now.

:whs:

Now that Mike has chimed in there is little else to add

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Now that Mike has chimed in there is little else to add

But Flash, you're the yellow pole expert!

 

[heyhi]

Absolutely

I would use a red claybar on that using APC as lube. The APC will eat up your clay, but will speed up the process

A solventy type polish/compound will work to as already stated



There is hardly a day that goes by that I'm not removing "garage door paint" or "yellow pole paint" off someones car

Ok, Im gonna go to autozone and lets see what happens. What is apc? I looked it up and some one was asking where they can get a small bottle because, they can only find a gallon in stores ? Can I use some thing else incase auto zone only carrys something big? Sorry for all the questions im on a budget and new to this dont wanna waste any money.

 

[Flash Gordon]

But Flash, you're the yellow pole expert!

Those yellow poles should be against the law

 

[heyhi]

How To Remove Paint Transfer

Paint Transfer is a term used to describe when the paint off of some other object is transferred onto you car's finish usually by some kind of accident.

My friend Rob is a Fitness Instructor at the gym I work out at and someone, somehow sideswiped his 2006 Ford Mustang GT and in so doing took off is side mirror and transferred some white paint onto his car's finish along with instilling some marring and scratches.

Luckily the damage wasn't worse!

Here's how you can remove paint transfer by hand using a light paint cleaner. For this example I'll use Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion.

Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion non-abrasive, it is designed to safely take off old wax, embedded road grime and pollution that washing will not remove. It prepares the surface for waxing by creating a clean, smooth, highly-reflective surface.

This is a very mild polish and because it's non-abrasive I'm going to apply and work it with a microfiber applicator pad, in this situation were using the nap of the microfiber as our abrasive along with the lubrication and cleaning ability of Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion to gently remove the offending paint.

If you find Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion is not aggressive enough, you can use XMT Heavy Duty Swirl Remover #4 Polishing Compound. This is very aggressive rubbing compound and after using it you will need to follow it with a less aggressive product.

Place a small amount of Paintwork Cleansing Lotion onto the face of your applicator pad...

Next work the polish and applicator against the transferred paint putting a little passion behind the pad but don't push too hard or you could instill fingermarks just from the concentrated pressure from your fingertips...

After working the product for about a minute, stop and inspect to check your progress.. You can see most of the paint transfer has been removed but not 100% of it. Sometimes you many need to repeat the process a few times to completely remove the paint transfer.

After you've successfully removed the paint transfer you can apply a protective coat of wax or paint sealant or like I've done here, machine polished the paint and then machine waxed the paint.

Looks as good as new and now Rob's going to have the mirror replaced.

Thanks Rob for bringing your car to Autogeek's Show Car Garage!

Products Used
Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion
Cobra Indigo Microfiber Polishing Cloth
Cobra Microfiber Applicator Pads
Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Car Wax


Further Resources
How to use a hand applied abrasive polish or paint cleaner by hand


Paint Cleaners at Autogeek.net
Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion
Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer
3M Scratch Remover
Dodo Juice Lime Prime Lite Cleaner Glaze
Dodo Juice Lime Prime Pre-Wax Cleanser Polish
Duragloss PreCleaner
1Z Einszett Paint Polish
Four Star Ultimate PreWax Cleanser
Griot's Garage Fine Hand Polish
Liquid Glass Pre-Cleaner
Meguiars SCRATCH X 2.0
Meguiars SwirlX Swirl Remover
Mothers California Gold Pre-Wax Cleaner
Mothers California Gold Scratch Remover
P21S Gloss Enhancing Paintwork Cleanser
Poorboy's World Professional Polish
SONAX Premium Class Paint Cleaner
SONAX Paint Cleaner


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Nice response lol. Going to autozone, Il keep u posted.One question sorry lol. If they dont carry ,Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion what can I use?