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I worked w/ Meg 105 today and hate it. It's hard to wipe off and the white residue sucks azz. Does D151 have the same problem?
 
No it is much easier to wipe off... But they are two totally different products used for two totally different reasons. 105 has much more cut. D151 has protection incorporated into it.

What machine and pads were you using? And what was your goal for the project?
 
I have not used M105 yet. But I love D151. It does dust a little when it dries around the edge. But it wipes off easy with no dust. I do want to try M105 when I need a real heavy compound.
 
Ive found that if you work 105 past its flashing point its much easier to remove, or cut it with some 205 also helps.

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PAR Detailing said:
No it is much easier to wipe off... But they are two totally different products used for two totally different reasons. 105 has much more cut. D151 has protection incorporated into it.

What machine and pads were you using? And what was your goal for the project?
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My goal was to remove some swirls and It did the job well. It's the wipe off part that i hate. I ended up using the Ultimate compound and it did a good job as well but SO easy to wipe off. I used the Flex and Cyan pad w/ the 105. Even though i keep the pad moist w/ some spray but the wiping off process still sucks.
 
MirandaDetailin said:
I have not used M105 yet. But I love D151. It does dust a little when it dries around the edge. But it wipes off easy with no dust. I do want to try M105 when I need a real heavy compound.
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Good to hear the wipe off is easier than M105.
 
snellvilleauto said:
My goal was to remove some swirls and It did the job well. It's the wipe off part that i hate. I ended up using the Ultimate compound and it did a good job as well but SO easy to wipe off. I used the Flex and Cyan pad w/ the 105. Even though i keep the pad moist w/ some spray but the wiping off process still sucks.
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It's not the easiest product to work with, but there are ways to use 105 that help mitigate the difficulties when using it. How much product are you using? Anything more than a few drops on a primed pad will only cause you more harm than good. Also, as one other poster mentioned here, working 105 after it has flashed for another couple passes will really reduce the amount of product left to wipe off. When I first started using 105 it was a nightmare, but the results it gives are worth continuing to learn how to use the product.

D151 is also an awesome product, but won't get near the correction of 105. Ultimate Compound is also a great product and can handle pretty heavy defects while also being easy to wipe off. One trick you could also try is substituting one drop of 105 on your pad with a drop of Ultimate Compound. This will give you a little longer working time and easier wipe off.
 
SRTSean said:
It's not the easiest product to work with, but there are ways to use 105 that help mitigate the difficulties when using it. How much product are you using? Anything more than a few drops on a primed pad will only cause you more harm than good. Also, as one other poster mentioned here, working 105 after it has flashed for another couple passes will really reduce the amount of product left to wipe off. When I first started using 105 it was a nightmare, but the results it gives are worth continuing to learn how to use the product.

D151 is also an awesome product, but won't get near the correction of 105. Ultimate Compound is also a great product and can handle pretty heavy defects while also being easy to wipe off. One trick you could also try is substituting one drop of 105 on your pad with a drop of Ultimate Compound. This will give you a little longer working time and easier wipe off.
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:) a few drops??? what's that!!! i put down at least two inch line every section. No wonder :) Noob mistake i guess.
thanks. Gotta try that trick w/ one drop of UC.
What do you mean flash?
 
Couple quick points that will save you a lot of hassle:

M105 does NOT work well with any extra lubrication. Prime the pad by wiping some m105 across it with your fingers. After, you'll only need about 3 drops for a normal area. Do not use water or any QD with it.

Let it flash, meaning work it for 20-30 seconds or so until it's clear. It will be easy to wipe off.

Make sure you don't work in too big of an area and you'll be fine. If you ever do get any caked on, the easiest way to remove it is to just buff over it again quickly.
 
snellvilleauto said:
:) a few drops??? what's that!!! i put down at least two inch line every section. No wonder :) Noob mistake i guess.
thanks. Gotta try that trick w/ one drop of UC.
What do you mean flash?
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Are you using a DA or rotary? I was just assuming you were using a DA, which is why I said a few drops (pea sized).

By "flash" I mean the point when the m105 dries basically transparent.
 
SRTSean said:
Are you using a DA or rotary? I was just assuming you were using a DA, which is why I said a few drops (pea sized).

By "flash" I mean the point when the m105 dries basically transparent.
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I learned something new. ty

Yes, i was using the Flex 3401 DA. Such a sweet machine. I was using the PE14 for small area. That's another sweet rotary.
 
snellvilleauto said:
I learned something new. ty

Yes, i was using the Flex 3401 DA. Such a sweet machine. I was using the PE14 for small area. That's another sweet rotary.
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Sure, no problem. That's what this place is for. :xyxthumbs:

Also, if you're not already cleaning your pad after completing a panel then that's something to start doing as well. I don't have the extra cash to buy the nice pad cleaner machine so I just clean my pads by holding a damp microfiber against the pad while it's rotating for about 10 seconds. This helps to remove old product and keeps the pad fresh. Really makes a huge difference in pad/product performance.
 
SRTSean said:
Sure, no problem. That's what this place is for. :xyxthumbs:

Also, if you're not already cleaning your pad after completing a panel then that's something to start doing as well. I don't have the extra cash to buy the nice pad cleaner machine so I just clean my pads by holding a damp microfiber against the pad while it's rotating for about 10 seconds. This helps to remove old product and keeps the pad fresh. Really makes a huge difference in pad/product performance.
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thanks. Another new trick i learned today. this place is awesome
 
snellvilleauto said:
thanks. Another new trick i learned today. this place is awesome
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YES! This place is awesome. Its how I and possibly many others have aquired most if not all of the knowledge and passion for detailing.
Thanks goes out to all the Pro's and Enthusiasts here who make it possible.
 
Danube said:
You may also read http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...-combo-leaving-white-like-overspray-dots.html


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Yeah i read that thread and also richy's video on how to use 105 w/o dusting. It's very informative. So after spend the previous night looking over all the threads on 105. I got home this am and tried it out w/ richy's method. It works very well. I now use a lot LESS product than previously. However, i still find the 105 difficult to work with, especially when the pad got clogged up. i was using the rotary. Half way throug i had to switch to DA polisher because i started to notice rotary halograms.
 
What do you do when the pad gets clogged up?

Try with softer pad and always clean the pad regularly with a tooth brush (that's what I do).

Switching to a new clean pad may help a lot, too.

It's hard to get used to 105, but once you are there you'll do thinks like richy (hopefully).
 
Damp pad and clean it often is paramount for success with 105. I wash out the pad in the sink and then spin it dry at 3000.


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Danube said:
What do you do when the pad gets clogged up?

Try with softer pad and always clean the pad regularly with a tooth brush (that's what I do).

Switching to a new clean pad may help a lot, too.

It's hard to get used to 105, but once you are there you'll do thinks like richy (hopefully).
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Yes, i do clean out the pad 2x/panel. It's great when the pad is new and clean.
 
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