do no shampoos stay sudsy anymore?

Kinalyx

Kinalyx

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Ive tried BTBM, CG Glossworks shampoo, and WG AutoBathe and none of them put actual suds on the car. The bucket is full of suds, but after 5 seconds on the car, it looks like im just pushing water around.

Im using everything at the correct dillution rate,and the bucket is all foamy, just no foam is transfering to the car, its like ill i get is lubricated water when i get to the car.

Now, i know the main point is lubricity, but i like to actually see the soap on the car, i feel it helps me wash and rinse better.

Shawn
 
What's the dilution ratio that you're using for BTBM? Mine has tons of suds and I "reactivate" them with a nice strong blast from my pressure washer every now and then.
 
1 oz for 4+ gallons, which for BTBM is actually more than it calls for.

Now, i do have to say that being near houston, my water is incredibly hard, which makse less suds in general.
 
These do! :props:

  • Duragloss 901
  • Detailer’s Pro Series Xtreme Foam Formula
  • Pinnacle XMT Gel Shampoo
 
Glossworkz is not a conventional shampoo and suds very little. You want suds? Try Ultima Paint Guard Wash. You won't bother using anything else after that.
 
As long as you understand that it is the lubricity that allows you to push that water without damaging the surface and the surfactants that help do the heavy lifting, wanting more suds is reasonable. I too wonder what happens when you have a bucket full of suds and then put it on the car and they're gone. I can't keep suds in the bucket either. I just trust the shampoo is doing its job and it does seem to clean.
 
Optimum Car Wash Concentrate ... after pouring my bucket out, I have come back hours later to still seeing a pile of suds.
 
Kinalyx said:
1 oz for 4+ gallons, which for BTBM is actually more than it calls for.

Now, i do have to say that being near houston, my water is incredibly hard, which makse less suds in general.
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That's your problem..very hard water. 1 oz. per 4+ gallons is not near enough soap for hard water.
 
Kinalyx said:
1 oz for 4+ gallons, which for BTBM is actually more than it calls for.

Now, i do have to say that being near houston, my water is incredibly hard, which makse less suds in general.
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Add some ONR to your wash......I have really hard water and I add 1oz of ONR to my normal dillution of DG901 and suds O plenty.
 
I use Dg901 and put in an ounce of DP Rinsless and I don't think I get as much suds as without. But I prefer my soap IN my water instead of on top of my water.
 
What kind of wash mitt do you use. Btbm is a great sudsing wash. You should know soap doesn't need to suds. It's all about cleaning and protecting the finish.
 
i agree its your water, when you have hard water the active substances in the soaps bind to the minerals and stuff that makes the water hard and basically leaves a less diluted solution then if you had a perfect water hardness. so to compensate that you need to use more soap or do as others suggested and add any of the rinseless products to your wash then use your soap of choice. see how that works.
 
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