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Hey guys! I am new to this forum and i have been reading around on what are some good Da's so far i found that i really am starting to like the griot's garage 6" and the porter cable xp (Wolfgang Duo & Porter Cable 7424XP FREE BONUS)


anyone that has tried both of these could recommend me any and your experiences with it or any problems of some sort that you've had.

I am a user with 0 experience being very young and going to be making some money from my parents to remove swirls of their not so old cars (2007+). :buffing:
 
I have not had experience with either of these, but I do like the meguiars g220, It has cruise control so its a slower start and is also good because there are many products and pads to use with it
 
I've had the GG6 for several years and my father inlaw has one he got for Christmas:props: they are awesome tools. I'm not a fan of kits, I suggest you buy the tool and build your own. The GG6 comes with a 6" backing plate, I strongly suggest you buy a 5" backing plate and either the 5.5" Hydro tech or the 5.5" flat pads (not the CCS pads) to go with it.

Bill1243 pointed out that the Meguries polisher has lots of products and pads to use with it, you can use any pads and products used with the Meg polisher with either the PC/XP or the GG6 so that's not a factor at all!

I suggest the GG6 out of the polishers you listed.
 
Bill1234 said:
I have not had experience with either of these, but I do like the meguiars g220, It has cruise control so its a slower start and is also good because there are many products and pads to use with it
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yeah! i was considering the meguiar's but i've read around on different sites that some of their machines had problems after that 1 year of warranty was over and they were just stuck with a dead machine.
Buckskincolt said:
I've had the GG6 for several years and my father inlaw has one he got for Christmas:props: they are awesome tools. I'm not a fan of kits, I suggest you buy the tool and build your own. The GG6 comes with a 6" backing plate, I strongly suggest you buy a 5" backing plate and either the 5.5" Hydro tech or the 5.5" flat pads (not the CCS pads) to go with it.

Bill1243 pointed out that the Meguries polisher has lots of products and pads to use with it, you can use any pads and products used with the Meg polisher with either the PC/XP or the GG6 so that's not a factor at all!

I suggest the GG6 out of the polishers you listed.
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yeah! i agree with you on that one! i am really leaning towards the GG6 over the pcxp because of the lifetime warranty they offer!.. but i also like the pcxp because of it's proven reliability and life on the tool. could you send me the links of the pads and compounds? (i am really new to this and have very little experience on which pads and compounds ) thanks!:xyxthumbs:
 
hey guys, i finally decided i want the griot's over the pcxp because of it's lifetime warranty and the fact that i wont use it as much so out of the 3 year warranty for the pxcp ill prob use it like ... 4-7 times.. with griot's i have that lifetime warranty so if something goes wrong and i barely use it .. i won't have to buy another one! i'll have my money's worth the whole life of the product
 
I've had great luck with my 1st generation Porter Cable 7424 dual action polisher. Many here know how faithful I am toward the newest generation Porter Cable 7424xp but "Houston, We Have a Problem" :eek:

A few weeks ago my son-in-law Tom and I attended the PoorBoy's World detailing Weekend at their warehouse in West Nyack, NY. We had a great weekend I surprised him with a brand new Porter Cable 7424xp polisher I bought from PoorBoy's World before we left on Sunday.

Tom's only put about 4 to 5 hours on this new machine prior to today. About an hour into polishing his new Jeep, sparks, smoke, and a bit of flame came out the vents!! :eek: :eek: ....... Say it ain't so!!! :eek::eek:

Not what I would have expected from a quality machine.

While every manufacturer experiences defects and failures I'm a bit put back by this experience.

I sent Chris, Pockets, at PoorBoy's World a private message a few hours ago and I'm waiting for a reply as I'd like them to replace it....
 
fenderpicks said:
I say the Griot 6" is the best DA available.... also the cheapest
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yeah i heard how griot's 1st gen use to be somewhat in the middle.. but now they stepped their game up and it's just quality with a lifetime warranty! and i also agree i like the price of it too!

BobbyG said:
I've had great luck with my 1st generation Porter Cable 7424 dual action polisher. Many here know how faithful I am toward the newest generation Porter Cable 7424xp but "Houston, We Have a Problem" :eek:

A few weeks ago my son-in-law Tom and I attended the PoorBoy's World detailing Weekend at their warehouse in West Nyack, NY. We had a great weekend I surprised him with a brand new Porter Cable 7424xp polisher I bought from PoorBoy's World before we left on Sunday.

Tom's only put about 4 to 5 hours on this new machine prior to today. About an hour into polishing his new Jeep, sparks, smoke, and a bit of flame came out the vents!! :eek: :eek: ....... Say it ain't so!!! :eek::eek:

Not what I would have expected from a quality machine.

While every manufacturer experiences defects and failures I'm a bit put back by this experience.

I sent Chris, Pockets, at PoorBoy's World a private message a few hours ago and I'm waiting for a reply as I'd like them to replace it....
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and wow this was the first time i read something on this forum about the pcxp having problems that involved smoking,sparks, and flames. usually it is something like something internally breaks. i will definitely keep this in mind!

but i think i may be going with griot's for that lifetime warranty. and i hope that pcxp gets replaced! considering it's use was about 4-7 hours totaled
 
wrx495 said:
and wow this was the first time i read something on this forum about the pcxp having problems that involved smoking,sparks, and flames. usually it is something like something internally breaks. i will definitely keep this in mind!

but i think i may be going with griot's for that lifetime warranty. and i hope that pcxp gets replaced! considering it's use was about 4-7 hours totaled
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Most of the failures I've read about are focused to the arbor shaft breaking and "may" be related to not using the rubber spacer between it and the backing plate...

I haven't seen the machine itself but I would like to take a look at it to see if there's something else going on. Chances are this is just a bad machine that got out of the factory and unfortunately Tom ended up with it.

This experience wouldn't deter me from buying another.. When my first generation Porter Cable 7424 dies I'll just grab an XP and move on....:props:

Once way or another it'll be replaced either through PoorBoy's World or Porter Cable....
 
BobbyG said:
Most of the failures I've read about are focused to the arbor shaft breaking and "may" be related to not using the rubber spacer between it and the backing plate...

I haven't seen the machine itself but I would like to take a look at it to see if there's something else going on. Chances are this is just a bad machine that got out of the factory and unfortunately Tom ended up with it.

This experience wouldn't deter me from buying another.. When my first generation Porter Cable 7424 dies I'll just grab an XP and move on....:props:

Once way or another it'll be replaced either through PoorBoy's World or Porter Cable....
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thats the area i read about also of it breaking, and i'm guessing your a big pc fan? i'd purchase the pc xp but i live in an apartment complex and i read around that the griot's is quieter so thats why i am aiming for that and once again with the lifetime warranty!:xyxthumbs:
 
I think the the newer PC XP machine is of a lower quality than the PC 7424 or whatever the number is that I bought back in 2008. I also think it had a tad less power, from what I've read online.
 
RZJZA80 said:
I think the the newer PC XP machine is of a lower quality than the PC 7424 or whatever the number is that I bought back in 2008. I also think it had a tad less power, from what I've read online.
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I completely disagree and I've been using all variations since they were introduced to the paint polishing world.


The history behind polishing paint with a DA Polisher


Tyler, age 15 removing swirls out of a 1965 Plymouth Valiant RetroRod using a Porter Cable 7424XP Dual Action Polisher

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You can watch the entire process including young Tyler removing swirls using nothing but a PC here,

1965 Plymouth Valiant - Extreme Makeover




I could never count how many cars I've used either the first or second generation PC's on. A great tool and when used correctly capable of easily removing swirls and creating s show car finish.


Removing swirls...
Buffingthesideofthebatmobile.jpg




Show car finish...
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wrx495 said:
Hey guys! I am new to this forum and i have been reading around on what are some good Da's so far i found that i really am starting to like the griot's garage 6" and the porter cable xp (Wolfgang Duo & Porter Cable 7424XP FREE BONUS)


anyone that has tried both of these could recommend me any and your experiences with it or any problems of some sort that you've had.

I am a user with 0 experience being very young and going to be making some money from my parents to remove swirls of their not so old cars (2007+). :buffing:
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I bought a 7424XP and all WG products 2 weeks ago, and my 01 SLK 230 Magma Red Benz looks better than new. Took 6 hours, but better than new! Best of luck.
 
RZJZA80 said:
I think the the newer PC XP machine is of a lower quality than the PC 7424 or whatever the number is that I bought back in 2008. I also think it had a tad less power, from what I've read online.
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i also disagree with that! the pc xp is maybe lower of quality but definitely not power. it is capable of removing almost anything but just not as fast as other ones!:dblthumb2:

Red Benz said:
I bought a 7424XP and all WG products 2 weeks ago, and my 01 SLK 230 Magma Red Benz looks better than new. Took 6 hours, but better than new! Best of luck.
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wow! thats great to hear! i like the griot's but ill keep the WG products in mind! and thank you! i'll be sure to post some pictures sometime in the future!:xyxthumbs:

Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Read this next...

5 inch Backing Plates on Meguiar's, Griot's and Porter Cable DA Polishers



And then this,


DA Polisher Trouble Shooting Guide


IF you read the trouble shooting guide before you start using your Griot's polisher you won't need the trouble shooting guide.


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alright ! i will get started reading it tonight! thanks a lot !

Buckskincolt said:
Wrx495, you need to clear your PM boxes!
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sorry i was out all day responding on my phone.. but i'll clear them right now! ! sorry :dblthumb2:
 
Buckskincolt said:
I don't get it, still can't send you a PM.

Here is where you order your free sample with your order!
Free Sample with your Order
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hmm.. thats strange.. did you check your sent messages? go to your private messages and check your sent. it may not be your inbox but the sent is hogging up space!

and which car sample should i get? they all are great ones i've heard!:hungry:
 
I had problems with 2 consecutive PC's last year, however, it may have been because I wasn't using the washer. In any case, I didn't like the way the PC felt, or the noise it made when polishing...it felt underpowerd and cheap to me. However, I respect BobbyG's opinion, and he's helped me out a great deal before on AG. Actually, he was probably the first person who really stepped up his game and helped me make some great product decisions back when I was an AG noob last year (so thanks again BobbyG - your help was remembered and much appreciated!) my uncle uses a PC 7424 with collinite products for his powerboat. I'm getting a bit off track- my point is, I know people who use the PC and love it, I'm just not one of them. On the other hand, I have a GG 6" and love it. I like the bucket handle better (easier, in my opinion to keep the polisher balanced than using the PC's handle). The GG also seems better built and more powerful to me. Don't forget the lifetime warranty you get with it also. I'd definitely buy the GG over the PC. HOWEVER...if I had to do it all over again, I'd probably go with the flex, even though it's a bit more money up front. Autogeek has them on sale now for nearly $100 (usually 445 but going for 350 now)
 
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