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Issues...what kind?? Are they using IPA or Eraser after polishing or prewax cleaning....or are they trying to remove a previous LSP?

If I remember correctly, they're seeing the product fail after several weeks - and yes, it was to remove polishing residue, not to remove LSPs. My take is that if you're spending that kind of money on a product, you might as well follow the manufacturer's instructions to the letter - including their instructions on prep, as well as the required temperature during application :)
 
If I remember correctly, they're seeing the product fail after several weeks - and yes, it was to remove polishing residue, not to remove LSPs. My take is that if you're spending that kind of money on a product, you might as well follow the manufacturer's instructions to the letter - including their instructions on prep, as well as the required temperature during application :)

Good hint
 
So would quick detailers/ waterless wash to clean the vehicle have any ill effects over exo? I never use soap and water anymore.
 
what about washing the car with stripping dilution of CG citrus wash or something of that nature.
 
You can wash with whatever, but you should do a final wipe down with a body shop safe silicone remover like Panel Wipe or Prep Sol.
what about washing the car with stripping dilution of CG citrus wash or something of that nature.
 
To Rob at Gtechiq...


Now you see why I was asking you about the prep wipe recommendations?


:laughing:


heh - got it :xyxthumbs:

are you planning to stock panel wipe? we can ship from over here in tea-bag land but seems a bit daft to be lugging such a commonly available product across the pond
 
heh - got it :xyxthumbs:

are you planning to stock panel wipe? we can ship from over here in tea-bag land but seems a bit daft to be lugging such a commonly available product across the pond


That's out of my area of influence. My areas of responsibility are on the education, demonstration side of things...

I know the online audience and I knew this is the direction this thread or a similar thread would take sooner or later because the online detailing enthusiasts and pro detailers tend and trend to be OCD and they want specific information when using a product like EXO.

Heck, I'm the guy that didn't want to write this article but had to because of all the bad information being recommended by others.

How to Mix IPA for Inspecting Correction Results



Key to the performance of any product is following the manufactures directions because since they engineered the product they know best how to use it. When it comes to Gtechniq EXO a HUGE part of product performance is prepping the surface.

I'm confident we will remove all the swirls and scratches Thursday night out of the very exotic paint job on the 1965 Fastback Mustang using Pinnacle Polishes by machine.

What I want to show during the *live* broadcast that will also be recorded and then shared on YouTube into the future will be,

  • A technically correct procedure
  • A safe procedure
  • A procedure an enthusiast or pro detailer can duplicate without having to be a scientist.
We have a number of products on Autogeek.net that can be used to strip compound and polish residues off paint, the key is to find one that will do so while at the same time not mar or scratch the paint which is what I call working backwards.

Most chemicals that offer enough solvent or dissolving ability are not at the same time good LUBRICANTS and therein lies the problem. Wiping perfectly polished paint with something that will also induce marring is a working backwards.

I like how Mineral Spirits wipes over polished paint, it's fairly good at letting a microfiber towel glide over the paint, at least better than most solvents.

IPA and Water is okay.

I haven't used Prep-All for years but I can pick some up and give it a try. Just for the record, the product is spelled Prep-All, and over the last three years I've typed the name and included a picture enough that it can be found by doing a search on the forum as long as a person includes the hyphen between the two words, Prep and All.

Dr. David Ghodoussi has created formulas for Klean-Strip in his years of being a chemist and I spoke with him about this product and he said that since the stricter EPA laws went into effect the VOC content has been reduced but it is still an effective surface cleaning solvent.


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I'll do some testing today to see what wipes best, I've done some of this in the past and you can see high resolution pictures on black paint here,

Hologram Free with a Rotary Buffer


And of course, to date no one has ever challenged what I wrote in the above article.


:)
 
hi mike,

fully with you on not going backwards. nothing worse than have to re-correct a car as something in a cloth has marred the surface. always feel like this is like a balancing act particularly with dark soft finishes and it's where the never ending detail where hours turn into minutes can begin.

our mantra is to touch the finish as little as possible - I hate seeing people clay cars that don't need it and cutting paint too hard. we also specialise in super-yachts - can't tell you the amount of times I have been down to a maintenance yard and seen big apes of guys hitting near perfect polyester urethane finishes with cutting compound thereby taking all the protection out of the paint - unbelievable - particularly when a repaint on a 150' yacht is going to be over $1million.

with panel wipe - there is no reason it's going to introduce marring into the finish other than through the cloth being slightly abrasive. the only other thing that might happen (and I rule you out for this Mr Mike!!) is that the panel wipe removes masking agents from a polish revealing marks that haven't been fully corrected.
 
But I think what everyone is asking is...We can't get panel wipe...What can we use in place of this? Correct me if I am wrong about what the question is.
 
But I think what everyone is asking is...We can't get panel wipe...What can we use in place of this? Correct me if I am wrong about what the question is.

i understand the question. my point is that panel wipe is available in every body shop in the world. ipa/eraser etc. are fine but they don't really work as well as panel wipe for removing polish residue. yes you can use ipa but it's not best product for removing polish residue.
 
My guess from AG store that works for prep:

Griot Paint Prep, Wurths Clean Solve and FK Step 1.

In theory, paint safe APCs should work also.
 
Thanks....looks like Wurths Clean Solve is my choice for AG stocked products. In reading, Wurths is like a final wipe and does not have to be rinsed off. The others require water rinsing and I'm in a water restricted area....only NR washes for me.

Also, Klean Strip Prep-All looks easy to get and is a wipe on/wipe off product.
 
Google Panel Wipe....seems its sold primarily in the UK. My local body shop had not heard of it. Prep-All is very popular.
 
Google Klean-Strip Prep-All Wax & Grease Remover, red and green tin as one choice.
 
Thanks....looks like Wurths Clean Solve is my choice for AG stocked products.


I just made a short video on rotary buffers and in the process buffed out a black test panel to test products for chemically stripping paint.

Nick just placed a can of Wurth Clean-Solve on my desk so I'll go test it.


I just sanded, then compounded and polished the panel finishing out with Pinnacle Advanced Finishing Polish via DA since that's how were going to finish out the Fastback Mustang Thursday night.


Wurth Clean-Solve


:)
 
My guess from AG store that works for prep:

Griot Paint Prep, Wurths Clean Solve and FK Step 1.

In theory, paint safe APCs should work also.

wurths clean solve looks like the right kind of thing - can't seem to find a msds sheet for it but from the description it seems correct.
 
Would Mineral Spirits be a good alternative? It is easily available to everyone, and it is my product of choice for removing polish residue. Cant wait to see a review of the EXO with regards to beading power and durability! I want to see those 'spheres' of water sitting on the surface!
 
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