Eldorado2k
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No sweat, CanCoat will laugh at it️
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️It’s literally baking outside right now though.
I’m like 15% worried at the moment. Lol.The Post a Picture of Your Ride as it Sits Thread
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It’s literally baking outside right now though.
I’m like 15% worried at the moment. Lol.
Klasse Act
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Ric...to the quarter carwash with theeIt’s literally baking outside right now though.I’m like 15% worried at the moment. Lol.
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Eldorado2k
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Ric...to the quarter carwash with thee
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No way dude. Lol.
I wouldn’t hesitate to spray it with some waterless and wipe it down, it’s just that it’s super hot in direct sun right now.
See what I mean?
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Hot damn
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After a RW & fresh LSP, fully story in the usual thread
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First of all, apologies for the coming post. I know I've covered this multiple times on this forum, but out of all my cars, the XR8 has the most "story" behind it.
Back in the late 2000's, Ford's Australian performance arm (FPV) was in need of a new engine to replace the old 5.4 quad cam V8 to meet new emission standards. Ford's upcoming Coyote V8 was yet to surface, but behind the scenes, FPV was working on a unique supercharged version of the new V8. In standard form, the high revving Coyote would not give FPV the performance upgrade they were looking for, especially in the heavy Falcon platform where torque was key.
For the new engine, FPV used the basic aluminum 5.0 Coyote block and cylinder heads. They then used the Mustang Boss 302-spec rotating assembly to handle the addition of unique Harrop supercharger. That supercharger was attached to a locally designed and manufactured aluminum intake manifold, and the engine exhaled through locally made headers. FPV also designed a large air intake system with an exposed conical air filter.
The engines were all hand assembled in Australia using imported (heads, block, rotating assembly) and locally made components (supercharger, exhaust, intake) on a small line production line. Later engines sported the engine builders initials engraved below the supercharger snout.
The result of this engine program arrived in mid-2010, almost a decade BEFORE the supercharged Predator V8 made its debut in Mustang GT500. The engines code name during development was "Miami", which has stuck around within the enthusiast community, but they were marketed under the BOSS branding. And this is where it gets a bit interesting, especially when you ask the power question..............
As you can imagine, a 5.0 V8 with a supercharger fitted is a formidable combo................too formidable. In testing, the engine was compromising other areas of the Falcon's body structure and chassis, the firewall in particular needed strengthening beyond a certain power level, in turn needing another set of crash tests. By this stage in the Falcon's lifecycle, investing in strengthened body structures and driveline upgrades was low on Ford's priority list. As such, FPV had to severely limit what the engines could do.
The first thing you notice is a lack of an intercooler, even though the intake manifold was designed for one. This also created heat management issues. Those two elements and the body/chassis concerns, FPV tuned the engines to stay within a defined power vs temperature range. From memory, on the BOSS 335 version, the throttle was programmed to only open up to 75%. The ECU was also programmed to limit power at higher temperatures.
So, the initial two versions of the Miami V8 were called the BOSS 315 and BOSS 335, both referencing the power level in kilowatts, which translates into 422 hp and 449 hp. Torque was set to 551 Nm (406 ft-lb) and 575 Nm (424 ft-lb). But, those numbers were the very LEAST the engine would make, car companies are not allowed to quote power figures that are not always available, hence the low figure. In the right conditions, say a cooler day with no heat soak, the BOSS 335 would over-boost to 375 kW (500 hp). This all came to light when owners were putting these cars on dyno's and getting those figures at the wheels! In the years that followed, Ford engineers gave a wink and nod as to what these engines could do.
Later versions called the BOSS 345 (463 hp) and BOSS 351 (470 hp) were more refined in how they power limited, in particular the separate boost levels for each gear. It's well known the BOSS 351 was beyond 410 kW (550 hp). For context, these were cars selling for $60,000 to $85,000.........................power levels unheard of for the price these days.
So, the short answer to the question for my FGX FalconXR8 with the BOSS 335 engine is 335 kW (449 hp) and 575 Nm (424 ft-lb), boosting to 500 hp when it's feeling fit.
On a cool day and no heat soak, the way this car accelerates is almost dizzying. Even though Ford fitted staggered tires on the XR8, traction is the limiting factor in lower gears, the stability control light strobing at the top of 3rd gear at go-to-jail speeds. My car has the 6-speed ZF auto, which brings a rudimentary launch control that uses the traction control to limit wheel spin. On warmer days, you can definitely feel the engine is being neutered, but its still a very fast car.
Along with the power, the other aspect of this engine that I love is its unique sound. Previous FPV's with the 5.4 V8 had the most delicious induction and exhaust note combination, so while they were relatively slow, they sounded amazing. Strapping a supercharger to the Coyote was always going to muffle the induction note, while adding that signature whine into the mix. The fix for that was the above-mentioned open-air filter arrangement, FPV also added a bi-model exhaust with quad tips. The result is a rorty intake and supercharger whine, mixed with a raspy snap-crackle-pop exhaust note. I especially love the whip-crack noise it makes on a full throttle upshift as the spark-cut kicks in. I even love the starter motor sound, which was designed to crank long so as to build oil pressure before firing off.
Plugging my own video here (stock exhaust)...................
Listen to that supercharger scream..................
Sorry about all that, as you can hopefully tell, I love this car for what it represents and how it makes me feel, the sound of that engine never gets old.
Sorry it took me awhile to reply here. That response and tech info is great, I really appreciate the effort. What an amazing platform, sure wish we had those here!
Your car sounds super nice. I think you made an excellent color choice as well.
Cold dense air makes my intake/catback LS1 camaro feel strong, can’t imagine a power adder car!
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See, I wish we STILL had them here! Sadly, when the government incentives dried up, Ford (and Holden and Toyota) packed up and went home. Ford had been making cars in Australia since 1925 and finished in 2016, 91 year's worth. Falcon had been in continuous production since 1960, one of the longest running production cars in the world, and THE longest running nameplate in Australia. It broke my heart when they announced the factory closure in 2013, I even remember when, where and what I was doing that day.
The color is called Emperor Red, I agonized over that choice. Ideally, I wanted Vixen Red (fire engine red), but that had been discontinued a year earlier. So, I was tossing up over Smoke (gunmetal grey) and Kinetic (Ford corporate blue) and Emperor.
Smoke didn't fully grab me, Kinetic was not all that unique and too close to my Sensation Blue XR6, which left Emperor. The only problem was, it was a touch darker than I would have liked. The predecessor to Emperor was Seduce, which was a brighter cherry red metallic, and a color that I really liked.
(Seduce)
Despite it being released prior to this model, Emperor was not all that popular so seeing it in person was a rare sight. Even still, I stuck with my choice and eagerly awaited for the car to be built. In the meantime, cue me stalking Emperor Red Falcon's and Territory's (Falcon-based SUV). Even when I first spotted the car right after it had come off the truck in the low light of the showroom, I was still not fully convinced.
But as soon as I got it into the sun, I knew I had made the right choice. In low light, Emperor has a somewhat flat appearance, but in the sun, the heavy gold flake comes to the surface and takes on a completely different personality. And the best bit? The grandpa spec color makes it the ultimate sleeper, only those in the know would realize a 500 hp V8 is hiding under the hood.
This is the color break down for the FGX XR8, of the 2179 made, only 95 were made in Emperor, of that 73 were automatics like mine.
I know that's a lot of words on a paint color, but for me, a cars color and engine are the two most important features. Both have to be right for me to fall in love.
Because this car was factory ordered and going to be a keepsake, I insisted on the dealer keeping all the production line stickers and build sheet. I've had these duplicated and stored away, along with a folder of every single cent spent on the car.
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Looks like you're having nicer weather than us, it's raining here, again.
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We've had a heavy frost every morning since Wednesday, the days have been cold but sunny. Rain is expected for the next few days though...................
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Not complaining about the sunny days, just have to grin and bear the frozen toes and fingers when working outdoors.
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With my move to a new job at a local company, I now have a 30-minute commute each way. As a national sales director, I'll also be traveling with my team. My previous car, an Accord, served me well, though I only drove it about 4,000 miles a year. I sold it for $3,000 less than I paid, freeing up some cash to invest.
For my new daily commute, I took advantage of the EV market and leased a Tesla Model 3 Highland Dual Motor/AWD. The lease deal is fantastic, with my payment being $300 lower than my allowance. Additionally, work reimburses me $0.35 per mile, meaning I'll actually make money when I travel.
I just picked up the Tesla and haven't even washed it yet. I've installed a carbon fiber spoiler and removed the wheel covers, replacing them with new center caps that will eventually have a red overlay on the logo. More updates to come, including an update to my signature!
For my new daily commute, I took advantage of the EV market and leased a Tesla Model 3 Highland Dual Motor/AWD. The lease deal is fantastic, with my payment being $300 lower than my allowance. Additionally, work reimburses me $0.35 per mile, meaning I'll actually make money when I travel.
I just picked up the Tesla and haven't even washed it yet. I've installed a carbon fiber spoiler and removed the wheel covers, replacing them with new center caps that will eventually have a red overlay on the logo. More updates to come, including an update to my signature!
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Looks good, I do like the colour, most I see around my neighbourhood are plain boring white. Right choice with the wheels too, you may lose slightly on range due to increased drag, but well worth it for the more aggressive look. One thing I have noticed with the latest Teslas, is that their headlights are the most annoying to oncoming traffic, way too bright if they are coming over a slight rise.With my move to a new job at a local company, I now have a 30-minute commute each way. As a national sales director, I'll also be traveling with my team. My previous car, an Accord, served me well, though I only drove it about 4,000 miles a year. I sold it for $3,000 less than I paid, freeing up some cash to invest.
For my new daily commute, I took advantage of the EV market and leased a Tesla Model 3 Highland Dual Motor/AWD. The lease deal is fantastic, with my payment being $300 lower than my allowance. Additionally, work reimburses me $0.35 per mile, meaning I'll actually make money when I travel.
I just picked up the Tesla and haven't even washed it yet. I've installed a carbon fiber spoiler and removed the wheel covers, replacing them with new center caps that will eventually have a red overlay on the logo. More updates to come, including an update to my signature!
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Here's how mine, as well as others, sat last night after a get together
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