Megs microfiber cutting disc disappointent
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Mike Phillips
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Not a chance... this forum rocks. :laughing:
Look how many quality replies and offers of help the OP has already received and all in a professional and friendly manner. Can't find that on ever detailing discussion forum and it's what makes AGO the best...
Plus, just to note, I did send the link to this thread to Jason Rose, the man behind this system.
But you are right about Meguiar's Customer Care, I know most of the guys and they are all very good helping out...
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We're sorry to hear that you had an issue with any of our microfiber dics, but we hate to see you give up on them so quickly. The DMC5 disc with D300 will give you more cut than even M105 on a foam pad when working with a DA buffer, and this system usually really likes hard paint.
The DA Microfiber Correction System is a pretty highly engineered system, and we don't use that word "system" lightly. It was highly tuned to be used at 4800 opm on a DA buffer, with moderate to even heavy pressure (if need be) and with a liquid system that creates very little, if any, dust and is very easy to wipe off. The system has been hugely popular world wide, and for good reason - it offers tremendous cut without having to endure the long and steep learning curve of the rotary.
But, if you're very accustomed to using a DA with a foam pads you really need to alter your technique a bit here. First of all, priming of the pads is essential. You must get that light coating of D300 to permeate the microfiber ....... fibers. After that, throw out the notion of applying an "X" of product for each section pass; no more than 3 or 4 pea sized drops is all that you need add to a fully primed pad for every section pass. And we mean "pea sized" drops - we've seen guys lean more toward brussels sprouts sized drops so we wonder if they've ever bought produce before! If ever "less is more" held true, this is the place. And keep those sections down to no more than 2' x 2'. In fact, 18" by 18" is probably better, truth be told. Set the tool to speed 4 or whatever equates to 4800 opm for that particular tool, move the pad very slowly over the paint, and keep moderate yet constant pressure. With the very thin foam of the disc you're transmitting a lot of the tool's energy directly through it, so you can usually apply a lot of pressure and still maintain slight pad rotation. You don't need it spinning fast, but you do want some spin. But the pressure that you can now apply means that any tipping of the pad will stop the buffer from spinning, so a flat pad is even more critical now than at lower pressures with foam - you can stop that rotation easily by tipping on edge with heavy pressure.
When working with more traditional liquids and foam pads, if you find yourself needing more cut with what you have, what do you do? Increase the speed of the tool is everyone's first thought. With this system it's a bit different. If you find more cut is needed then do one or both of the following: slow down your arm speed, increase pressure.
Cleaning of these microfiber discs is critical, too. Microfiber is great at hanging on to stuff, and in this case that "stuff" is potentially dried product and that little bit of removed paint. You want that stuff out of there so that you're working clean as much as possible. To that end, we recommend that you clean the face of the pad with either compressed air (best) or a pad conditioning brush after every single section pass. Do NOT skip this. In fact, the fastest way to fail with this system is to skip cleaning the pad, over use product, or short cycle the product.
There is a fairly significant change in technique when you move from the cutting step to the finishing step, and we see a lot of people misstep here, too. They get so tuned in to the pressure and slow speed of the D300/DMC5 step that they can't move away from it, and they spend way more time than needed with the D301/DMF5 step. Here you don't need to worry so much about pad priming, and you can actually move very quickly over the paint with only light to moderate pressure. The tool should be turning at 3800 opm (speed 3 on our G110v2, double check on others) and you should be able to wax a full sized car or truck in record time. You do not need to work D301 as slowly and methodically as you do D300 - adapt to the product and process.
Now, regarding those failed pads - if you purchased them through Autogeek then contact them for replacements. They should take care of that for you very quickly as they're awesome in that regard, and then they'll go through proper channels for warranty replacement through us.
Mike Phillips
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Thanks for chiming in with Meguiar's official input Mike. Excellent post with solid information, helpful tips and techniques. We wouldn't expect anything less.
The Meguiar's Microfiber DA Correction System
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So what is the correct speed for the Flex DA?
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davey g-force
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I also had issues with Megs Microfiber system the first time I used it. But once i got the hang of it it was awesome. Clean the pads often and slow arm movement. Just give it another try Im glad I did
Wow, those before/after pics totally blew me away! Thanks for sharing :xyxthumbs
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Because you don't have the pad overheating issues with the 3401, you can safely use speed 6, but in my experience, the PC DA type works better with the MF pads.
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Ive been correcting small straight line scratches and very small sand (blast) chips on my 2012 Corvette Grand Sport.
I have a Porter Cable 7424XP with a 6" Backing Plate.
Started out using Meg's 105 on a Orange Lake Country Flat Foam Pad.....Did OK removing 60-75% defects
Switched to Meg's MF (Regular) Pad and M-100 and took out ALL the scratch lines and most of the tiny sand blast "craters"
I've purchased the Meg's Xtra Cut MF pad but havent used yet (with M-100)
Purchased a Buff & Shine Uro Wool 6" Pad which should Cut More than MF
Ive also purchased a TORQ22D (long throw) Polisher which hasnt been used.
Conclusion: All of the above work and especially the Meg's MF Pad & M100 Compound
I have a Porter Cable 7424XP with a 6" Backing Plate.
Started out using Meg's 105 on a Orange Lake Country Flat Foam Pad.....Did OK removing 60-75% defects
Switched to Meg's MF (Regular) Pad and M-100 and took out ALL the scratch lines and most of the tiny sand blast "craters"
I've purchased the Meg's Xtra Cut MF pad but havent used yet (with M-100)
Purchased a Buff & Shine Uro Wool 6" Pad which should Cut More than MF
Ive also purchased a TORQ22D (long throw) Polisher which hasnt been used.
Conclusion: All of the above work and especially the Meg's MF Pad & M100 Compound
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Hopefully things have improved in the last 6 years since this thread was last pdated!!!
Myself, I recently used the Megs MF 6.5" disc with Megs Ultimate Compound and Megs 6.5" MF polishing disc with CarPro Essence on my Harbor Freight DA and was extremely impressed with how it turned out. I'm a complete noob at this and it couldn't have went better. I just used the product as required and cleaned the pads before moving to a new panel. Pads cleaned up well and looking forward to doing the same on the wife's car.
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HateSwirls
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I use them often and find them to be a gift from the heavens.
Last week a Toyota Tacoma, black, came to me with trashed paint.
Severe swirls and scratches.
Used my Flex3401, speed 3 with light pressure.
Once the MF Cutting Pad was prepped I applied 3 small dots to the pad.
I make 2 passes then clean it with my cleaning gun and make two more passes which seems to do the trick.
The fibers has to clean and not always matted down and why i clean it off after two passes.
Before I used the MF pad I used an orange cutting pad and did very little so I switched.
Sure cuts down on time which is important when running a detail shop.
Thanks for sharing and good luck
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Setec Astronomy
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Hmm Kevin...I thought nobody liked MF pads on the Flex...I'm not sure if I ever tried it or not because everybody said I wouldn't like it.