Foam Cannon Process HELP

Here is the pw tip and valve body disassembled. You just push the pin out from either side on the tip, and it pulls right off.
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Then you need to unscrew the actual pressure tip from the body of the canon.
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I show the o-ring moved so it isn't damaged in the process. The end shown with the o-ring stays attached, it is just where you grasp with a wrench to remove the pressure/pattern tip. Once you remove the tip the has the pattern adjustment blades on it you will see where the foaming screen/mesh disc is inside of it. This is where any debris will be trapped.

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Here is a better view of the keeper pin you have to push through to remove the adjustment sleeve. I used a finishing trim nail to push it through.
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This is the water/air mixer knob removed to give better clearance to the hex on the canon body. I used two adjustable(crescent) wrenches to remove the tip. Just be careful not gouge the brass or cut a rubber o-ring.
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The tip unscrewed from canon body.
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The tip separated from the canon body. The nut is from the under the black control knob; just used it to prop up the back of the tip in the pic.
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This is the front view of the pressure tip. Between the pattern adjustment blades you can see the foaming mesh screen/disc through the hole.
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This view of the tip removed shows the threads on the backside of the tip.
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This is the backside of the tip where the foaming screen is located, and where debris will get trapped reducing the foaming action of the canon and or not let water through very well, if at all.
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Hope this helps and if not I would look at disassembling the water-air mixing valve, or contact AG for a solution/return/replacement.

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ShaunD said:
This view of the tip removed shows the threads on the backside of the tip.
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This is the backside of the tip where the foaming screen is located, and where debris will get trapped reducing the foaming action of the canon and or not let water through very well, if at all.
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Hope this helps and if not I would look at disassembling the water-air mixing valve, or contact AG for a solution/return/replacement.

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The filter doesn't look dirty do I guess my next step is calling nick.
Thank you very much for the step by step.
 
Quick question. What will happen if I make a test run without the filter ?
 
Not sure for your location but in mine I go to the local health unit and get a water test kit, let my water run for a few minutes to make sure I am testing whats in the aquafer not what has been stagnet in my pipes. Fill the bottle and then send it in for analysis. All for free.

My well water is very soft (9.0ph) and high in floride. Not all well water is on the hard side but some is for sure. If you don't make many suds (with little soap) easily with shampoo in the shower or doing dishes than you probably have hard water. I would still have it tested once a year to see what you are drinking.

Not sure when the last time you have treated your well (shocked it) or done maintanence on it but the test will tell you lots. I treat my well yearly with Biostel to get rid of any bio-fouling that may exist.

I would send in the water test and look at the screens in cannon but with your set up and choice of soap I would be leaning to hard water as a possible condition to your issue. Hope all works out :)
 
If you run the canon w/o the screen it should perform more like a normal pressure washer tip, which it pretty much is. You probably still wont get the pressure that a non-modified tip/lance would have sine the foam canon is probably modified to have a larger hole to accommodate the foam screen.
 
Kevin Cullen said:
Not sure for your location but in mine I go to the local health unit and get a water test kit, let my water run for a few minutes to make sure I am testing whats in the aquafer not what has been stagnet in my pipes. Fill the bottle and then send it in for analysis. All for free.

My well water is very soft (9.0ph) and high in floride. Not all well water is on the hard side but some is for sure. If you don't make many suds (with little soap) easily with shampoo in the shower or doing dishes than you probably have hard water. I would still have it tested once a year to see what you are drinking.

Not sure when the last time you have treated your well (shocked it) or done maintanence on it but the test will tell you lots. I treat my well yearly with Biostel to get rid of any bio-fouling that may exist.

I would send in the water test and look at the screens in cannon but with your set up and choice of soap I would be leaning to hard water as a possible condition to your issue. Hope all works out :)
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I'm going to give that a shot.
Thanks for the info !
 
ShaunD said:
If you run the canon w/o the screen it should perform more like a normal pressure washer tip, which it pretty much is. You probably still wont get the pressure that a non-modified tip/lance would have sine the foam canon is probably modified to have a larger hole to accommodate the foam screen.
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I'm going to work on it. Thanks for all the help brother
 
If nothing I posted helps, and it does the same thing with another source of water then I am sure AG will look into it.
You may want to try adding an ounce of a rinseless wash like ONR to the foaming shampoo you put in the dispenser to see it helps alleviate any hard water issues.

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ShaunD said:
If nothing I posted helps, and it does the same thing with another source of water then I am sure AG will look into it.
You may want to try adding an ounce of a rinseless wash like ONR to the foaming shampoo you put in the dispenser to see it helps alleviate any hard water issues.

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I will try it out tmrw.
 
A few weeks ago I 2BM washed my wife's Mazda 3 with CG Citrus Wash & Gloss and added an ounce of ONR. The ONR almost completely killed the suds of the CG solution.

I think, from my experience, you may end up introducing another variable that makes it worse. But who cares, try it out anyway and let us know what happens. I'd love to be wrong!
 
Maybe try using filtered water in your dispenser instead of your tap/well water. Do you normal get a lot of suds/foam in the dispenser bottle when you shake it up to mix the soap ad water?
Yeah, I guess if ONR can soften water it can encapsulate the foaming agents in shampoo too. Guess you'll see for yourself and let us know.

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ShaunD said:
Maybe try using filtered water in your dispenser instead of your tap/well water. Do you normal get a lot of suds/foam in the dispenser bottle when you shake it up to mix the soap ad water?
Yeah, I guess if ONR can soften water it can encapsulate the foaming agents in shampoo too. Guess you'll see for yourself and let us know.

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I get decent suds in the bottle.
 
Thanks neat e34, I went ahead and ordered CG cannon (actually Mother in Law...yep, she rocks). I picked up a quick disconnect and looks like a quick cannon removal and snap a spray nozzle on and I'm rinsing away.
 
rockinrandall said:
Thanks neat e34, I went ahead and ordered CG cannon (actually Mother in Law...yep, she rocks). I picked up a quick disconnect and looks like a quick cannon removal and snap a spray nozzle on and I'm rinsing away.
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Where did you get the quick disconnect
 
Lim3 said:
I'm going to check it out and see if its clogged up.
I am 95% sure it's not the pressure washer it self. I tested it on a few surfaces before attaching the cannon. It has tremendous power.

I'm going to give a call to nick tmrw and hopefully have this solved.
Thank you very much mike and AGO members for the help !
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If it has tremendous power then the problem must be somewhere else.

The soap on your car doesn't look right at all, the bubbles are missing. To me it looks like everything is working but something is entering into the mix that is preventing the formation of the actual bubbles or soap suds.


Lim3 said:
Where did you get the quick disconnect
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We have them on the AG Store here...


Brass Quick Connector Set


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