Menzerna Suggestions!

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Hey everyone, before the 20% off sale ends in about 9 hours, I need some suggestions or direction at least on which Menzerna products to purchase.

Right now, I have a full 32oz. SF4500, and i've been eyeing up the FG400 for a good while now. Reason being is that if a customer wants a decent correction, but without the high cost of an all-out correction, that's where the FG400 would come into play. Does this sound right?

Menzerna also suggests to finish up with SF4000 then a sealant. I already have a full CG Blacklight (which I think is sealant...CG isn't very up front about what it is lol), so that's what i'd finish up with sealant wise.

Basically, to sum this all up, the "economic correction package" i'd offer would be:

FG400
SF4000 (can I just replace with the SF4500 I already have?)
CG Blacklight
optional wax - Menzerna Color Lock perhaps?

Sound about right? I hope to get some help before the sale ends which i'm sure I will. :)

Thanks in advance!
 
Menzernas best polish's are SI-1500 and SF-4000. Also PF-2500 for a one stop polish.

I have the FG400 but i have yet to try it at the moment.

I actually think SF-4000 is a more versatile product than 4500. I feel that it finish's the same as 4500 but it works faster and has more cut. both are amazing though.
 
Thanks for the suggestion! I wonder if I should get the 4000, FG400 and Color Lock all with the 20% off code then. Seems like they're all worth it.
 
i would agree the 2500 is more of the one stepper product. dont forget, while the FG400 may finish nice and be LSP ready on alot of paints, it is still a compound nevertheless.
 
I chose 1500 and 4000 in my arsenal and it has worked out nice
 
Thanks for the tip, Primo! Looking at the 2500 now and it sounds perfect for a budget friendly detail. So would a good process be 2500, CG Blacklight and Color Lock?
 
I just ordered a gallon of FG400, I have used it a couple times. It is a very good versatile compound, but on softer finishes really need to be finished with a polish.

Depending on the car, FG400 on orange and PF2500 on white are great at one stepping.

SF4000 and 4500 are very very close in their abilities. You have to remember these fine cut polishes are great at jeweling paint. 4500 is my preferred jeweling polish (which I rarely do; my multistep package). 4000 is my favourite finishing polish. Mainly because I can buy it buy the gallon and it is close to 4500 with regards to how it can finish.

With regards to gloss intensity, I borrowed my friends gloss meter.
SF4000= @60 degrees - 85 gloss units
SF4500= @60 degrees - 89 gloss units

To put into perspective a mirror is 100 units. 70-85 is considered traditional gloss and 85+ is considered high gloss.

So to the naked eye, you will not see much difference, let alone a customer.

For these reason I choose 4000 as my high gloss polish, PF2500 as my one stepper (works 99.9% of the time) and FG400 as my compound (I prefer it to PG1000). I also have the Finishing Glaze PO115CQ. I have not done a measurement on this, but I like finishing with the glaze, then LSP. It is more work and not permanent, but really makes things look good!

SO yes, get FG400, SF4000, and CL

Hope this helps!
 
what would you guys use for realllly really light polishing? just taking minor swirls out like hairline ones out
 
wrx495 said:
what would you guys use for realllly really light polishing? just taking minor swirls out like hairline ones out
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SF4500 on a white pad

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Thank you everyone for the help! It's greatly appreciated. Andr3wilson, thank you for the super in depth explanation also :)
 
It's more of a finishing polish. It'll remove super light stuff left behind so yes not a lot of cut at all.

By the way wrx495, what year WRX ya got? I have a 05 Legacy GT with a TD06SL2/18g @ 20psi @ 300whp/350wtq :)
 
wrx495 said:
hmmm... so it doesnt have a lot of cut right?
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No, it is very gentle as a polish, but it also cuts with your pad you are using. In this case I used a white finishing pad; which has a bit of cut to it. If i were to use a red/blue/grey/gold pad I would be spending a lot more time.

If you have compounding marring or slight scuffs (like on mine), a white pad with 4500 will work perfect.

Swirls, scratches and sanding marks need polishes

Do know that if you work long and hard enough at polishing, finishing polishes can remove heavy sanding marks. You are just going to use up a lot of product over a long amount of time.
 
I used a polishing pad and SF4500 on my VW, and got a 100% correction on all my light swirls. M105 on a polishing pad did nothing on this paint believe it or not.
 
blongo804 said:
It's more of a finishing polish. It'll remove super light stuff left behind so yes not a lot of cut at all.

By the way wrx495, what year WRX ya got? I have a 05 Legacy GT with a TD06SL2/18g @ 20psi @ 300whp/350wtq :)
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ok goooodd! and


bahahahah to be honest.... i made this before i got my first car i wanted a wrx... butttt! my uncle sold me his evo
so i drive a 2006 evo 9 mr WW with 14,500 miles
 
mwoolfso said:
I used a polishing pad and SF4500 on my VW, and got a 100% correction on all my light swirls. M105 on a polishing pad did nothing on this paint believe it or not.
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IMO 85rd or 3m ultrafina is more like gloss enhancer which hides the defects. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
wrx495 said:
ok goooodd! and


bahahahah to be honest.... i made this before i got my first car i wanted a wrx... butttt! my uncle sold me his evo
so i drive a 2006 evo 9 mr WW with 14,500 miles
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Oh man awesome!! Even better. If I could of had an Evo, I would have. Sick mileage!!

/my own thread jack
/Evo's get me excited
 
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