CCS Pad Lost its backing

[Colosoccer15]

Ok, so im trying to figure out what caused my LC CCS Yellow pad to lose the black Portion that sticks to the backing plate on my porter cable. Im not sure eactly what caused it. I dont have a pad cleaner so i usually just soak them in dawn/water, then agitate, squeeze out water and toss them in the dryer. I also just sometimes put it in the washer with detergent and then the dryer. Dont hate me for this i just havent had the money to purchase a pad cleaner.

 

[spiralout462]

The heat from the drier could have caused the pads demise. That's just my guess. Powdered Snappy Pad Cleaner is very cost effective and last a couple weeks after mixed with water. I dry mine on cookie cooling racks after they are cleaned. I don't own a pad washer either and can't justify the cost of one.

Just my .02

 

[cleanmycorolla]

Throwing them in the dryer probably didnt help any...how bad are they now? maybe you can cut them up and use them as pads for smaller areas that need hand applications....other memebers wiser than me always suggest this!

 

[swanicyouth]

I've been able to fix them with this stuff:

I paint it on gently with a tiny paint brush between the Velcro and the foam. I use it sparingly and make sure it doesn't get smashed into the pores - I don't put any weight on it when it dries. If any drives in the outside, I cut it off with scissors.

Why does it happen? It just happens sometimes. I don't use the washer or dryer for pads, that contributes to this IMHO.

 

[Big Boi]

I clean my pads the same way, and havent had any issues. I also put my dryer on medium, or low.

 

[cgreen1120]

This from another thread...

Here is what I discover over the last 6 months. If I don’t keep a fresh pad (about 1 per panel) the product builds up. That is to say, the moisture content, keeping in mind that the products we use are water based. On small surfaces where the pad does not come in full contact, rotation stops (or slows) and only the orbiting takes place. This creates a lot of friction between the backing plate and the pad at the center of the orbiting action. Friction creates heat and the heat creates steam from the moisture of the built-up product. The steam will melt the center of the backing plate and hollow out the center of the pad. I have had melted foam between the pad backing material and pad surface before. This tends to happen mostly on irregular surfaces but I have had my pad begin to break down on flat panels. What I have done to correct this is to keep my pads washed out between panels. I use the WG pad cleaner, wash with warm water and Meg pad brush, wring out most of the water by hand without twisting, press between several layers of towels then mount on a 3” backing plate mounted in a drill motor. I run the drill wide open for several minutes to sling out as much moisture as possible and I now have a fresh pad for the next panel. I also stepped up to the Flex 3401 for this very same reason.

I found a product at the dollar store called LA's Totally Awesome. Its $1.00 and works just like WG pad cleaner. Use the same procedure.

Craig

 

[RTexasF]

Pads fail, it's just part of detailing. The foam can come apart, the backing can separate, it's part of the job. If you just bought them then go to the seller for a replacement. It is not uncommon. What really pisses you off is when a pad fails and you gouge the paint with the backing plate......that is when I want to put my hands around the neck of the manufacturer.

 

[rmagnus]

Yes pads fail. Yes they wear out. If you want htem to fail quicker put them in the washer and dryer. To clean them it's not necessary. Dawn soap works maybe not the best thing to use. There are so many pad cleaner solutions out there for a better alternative. I've also used diluted APC+. Rinse them out and air dry with velcro side up. Put them on your buffer then spin up to high speed inside a 5 gal bucket and most all the water will spin out. They dry very fast after that.

Yes a pad cleaner is awesome not only cleans but spin dry the pad on the fly and get back to it. The nicest thing is using a pad washer you will not be tempted to ever use a dirty pad because cleaning is so quick. Downside is they are stupidly expensive. Come on really a 5 dollar bucket, molded plastic and a few springs. Now it's $100+, end rant.

Buy one and just be done with it. Hey I've spent a C-Note on worse but that's another story!

 

[CM8 6MT]

Its called Lake Country pads. Normal for them to do that. I suggest you try higher quality alternatives. Megs Pads, Buff n Shine, or if you want to stick to LC their HydroTech's work decent.

I use LC CSS gray pads for LSP application and very seldomly light polishing. I had bought some white & orange pads and wasnt impressed on how easily they fell apart. My Meg's pads however look like they just came out of their plastic bag after MANY corrections.

 

[JAF06SE]

All I have is the CCS Smart Pads and haven't had any issues yet. To clean them I use Dawn as well. Squirt some on the pad, rub it around and agitate it with your hand then rinse and ring out. Set Velcro side up and let dry overnight. You're good to go. My wife would kill me if I put even one in the washer lol.

 

[CM8 6MT]

All I have is the CCS Smart Pads and haven't had any issues yet. To clean them I use Dawn as well. Squirt some on the pad, rub it around and agitate it with your hand then rinse and ring out. Set Velcro side up and let dry overnight. You're good to go. My wife would kill me if I put even one in the washer lol.

I too used to use Dish Soap to clean my pads. Then agitate, rinse and squeeze out the remaining water & dry in the drying machine on low.

Although after using WolfGang's Pad Rejuvenator I was suprised how much cleaner my pads were coming out. Dedicated pad cleaners work way better than Dish Soap.

 

[spiralout462]

All I have is the CCS Smart Pads and haven't had any issues yet. To clean them I use Dawn as well. Squirt some on the pad, rub it around and agitate it with your hand then rinse and ring out. Set Velcro side up and let dry overnight. You're good to go. My wife would kill me if I put even one in the washer lol.

I hear that! I wash my microfiber while she's at work to avoid confrontation. At least she lent me her cooling racks to dry my HAND washed pads.

Edit: I've had great results from Snappy Pad Cleaner.

 

[Colosoccer15]

This from another thread...



I found a product at the dollar store called LA's Totally Awesome. Its $1.00 and works just like WG pad cleaner. Use the same procedure.

Craig

I want to thank everyone for their input on my situation. They all make sense and are reasonable options for not screwing up my pads. What seems to have happened is exactly as cgreen1120 has described right down to the very last word. I remember the pad releasing steam and the center sort of caving in when i would remove the pad. No more machine washing for me. I will buy a cleaner product and save for the pad washer in the future.:buffing: