Duragloss 105/501/601?

Most mix what they need to do the job, I now mix on the pad and will not do a longterm mix again......lol
 
BobbyG,
Somewhere along the line after richy sent me the mixture, either in another post or via pm, I made him aware of the incident...not that I was complaining, rather, sharing an observation. I'm pretty certain that he told me he'd never experienced anything like I did. Which, at the time and even now, I find that a little strange considering how much of it I'm sure he's mixed up...not only for himself, but to send out to folks.

The bottle richy sent to me was certainly sealed tight, with that stopper underneath a screwed on lid. I still wonder if it didn't have something to do with a temperature change during shipping? Then again, that doesn't explain you experience.

Also, these "experiences" let me know that there is certainly something to mixing these products...that is, something happening with the mixture that creates the bond that it does allowing the product to work much faster mixed than using two products seperately.

I thing it's Duragloss that says to use the mixture right away. Could someone confirm or deny that, please? What I'm getting at is; that because my mixture reacted like it did, the reaction alone tells me something is happening to the chemical make-up of the products mixed together. Either the product will perform at its peak during this critical time, or it simply weakens with time, assumptions of course.

I have no doubt that what I have left of the mixture will still clean paint well. What remains to be seen, after my bottle being mixed for almost a year, is how well it will last...or how long will its protection last vs. fresh mixed product.

I need to order some fresh, mix it together, and make a comparison of cleaning and lasting protections. That would be a neat test. Something to go on my long list...ha ha.
 
Hoytman said:
BobbyG,
Somewhere along the line after richy sent me the mixture, either in another post or via pm, I made him aware of the incident...not that I was complaining, rather, sharing an observation. I'm pretty certain that he told me he'd never experienced anything like I did. Which, at the time and even now, I find that a little strange considering how much of it I'm sure he's mixed up...not only for himself, but to send out to folks.

The bottle richy sent to me was certainly sealed tight, with that stopper underneath a screwed on lid. I still wonder if it didn't have something to do with a temperature change during shipping? Then again, that doesn't explain you experience.

Also, these "experiences" let me know that there is certainly something to mixing these products...that is, something happening with the mixture that creates the bond that it does allowing the product to work much faster mixed than using two products seperately.

I thing it's Duragloss that says to use the mixture right away. Could someone confirm or deny that, please? What I'm getting at is; that because my mixture reacted like it did, the reaction alone tells me something is happening to the chemical make-up of the products mixed together. Either the product will perform at its peak during this critical time, or it simply weakens with time, assumptions of course.

I have no doubt that what I have left of the mixture will still clean paint well. What remains to be seen, after my bottle being mixed for almost a year, is how well it will last...or how long will its protection last vs. fresh mixed product.

I need to order some fresh, mix it together, and make a comparison of cleaning and lasting protections. That would be a neat test. Something to go on my long list...ha ha.
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Well said Bill! :dblthumb2:

Once the weather begins to change we'll both have to put on our chemists hats and get to work! I'll keep careful documentation on what I do and will post my findings here...:props:
 
Baconz2012 said:
This thread makes me nervous now lol. I just got the 501 101 105 111 and 601 from duragloss. I WAS gonna mix them but my god is this intense.......now i want to mix em all together and see what happens!
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I see a mad scientist brewing!!

This is my Duragloss stash and the actual bottles I mixed mine in. I was able to clean the mess out of the bottle but it took time and was no longer soluble in water and app purpose cleaner once it congealed....

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I have mixed up larger quantities in the past, and found little difference in the performance within 30 days. I tend to try to mix up about 6 ounces or so to do 3-4 vehicles within a 4 day period or so. Not much difference between day 1 and day 4.
 
I tried DG 501 on my magenta Kia Spectra last week.

I was beginning to notice some micro marring of the paint from washing, and time, and some light scratching I myself placed in the paint around trim pieces with a detail brush. The car was done a few months ago with WGDGPS 3.0

So, I conducted a little experient with this product.

I noted that by hand, DG501 has absolutely no paint corrective qualities at all. My paint was clean, washed, and detailed the day before, and did a wipe down before trying the 501 that following day.

Chemical cleaning abilities yes, corrective abilities, little to none. Not sure if some use this product via machine of any sort, and get better results in that regard?

After the 501, and not satisfied, out came the bottle of Meg's M205 and by hand, that took out all paint marring, and fine scratches lickety split.
Darn fine product that M205!

I then recoated with DG #111. Honestly, I was not that impressed with the look, or the feel of #111. I might top it with Coli #845 this weekend and see how that looks? Mark
 
I always top Duragloss with either Collinite 476, 845 or 915. I do think DG is a little sterile on its' own. PLus, I like durability, and think as a combination, it is hard to beat.
 
601 is the ticket when either doing multi-coats and/or just want a little more durability. I can't wait to try 501 and 105 in the spring but I love my 101 and 111 and then there's AquaWax (AW), does an awesome job and looks better after a half an hour, OP, get some AW, trust me/us!

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I use 501 a lot . I think that its one of the better cleaner-sealants. Every fall I do 3 cars for a friend and on 2 of them I use 501 . On the other car which is black I use PB Black Hole and follow with Colinite 476. He thinks that he gets a year out of 501 , Im not going to argue with him , as long as he happy.
 
Larry A said:
I use 501 a lot . I think that its one of the better cleaner-sealants. Every fall I do 3 cars for a friend and on 2 of them I use 501 . On the other car which is black I use PB Black Hole and follow with Colinite 476. He thinks that he gets a year out of 501 , Im not going to argue with him , as long as he happy.
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501 is my favourite product from DG. I'm hoping they introduce their Squeaky Clean paint cleaner soon. I think they're just working out the last details. It is like 501 except no sealant so it's perfect as a last step prior to a coating. I will post details upon the launch of it. Since this will be a much smaller market product, I believe the intent was to only sell it through DG's website. I will confirm everything when I find out.


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601 definitely helps in regards to durability IMO.

I did half of my hood with 105/601,and one side with 105 only. The 105/601 has held up much better in the 3 months since I applied both combos.
 
From the DG website description of 601 "Step Saver Tip - Blend 1 part #601 to 4 parts of either #101, 105, 111, or 501 for added durability and gloss. Accelerates the curing process for instant bonding. Apply within 2 hours after mixing for maximum results."

I just mix up 2 OZ of 105 with 1/2 OZ of 601 in one of those 4 OZ travel bottles from Walmart and it's plenty to an entire car then toss any remaining mix.
 
Thanks Richy, its good to have a DG insider, while your at it, get their version of crystal seal over here too, LOL.

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Chemical cleaning abilities yes, corrective abilities, little to none. Not sure if some use this product via machine of any sort, and get better results in that regard?
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If so it would be due to the pad used. The product itself is not intended to correct, only clean and seal. Another instance of the word "Polish" being misleading on DG's part. If I want correction I reach no farther than the Menzerna.
 
richy said:
501 is my favourite product from DG. I'm hoping they introduce their Squeaky Clean paint cleaner soon. I think they're just working out the last details. It is like 501 except no sealant so it's perfect as a last step prior to a coating. I will post details upon the launch of it. Since this will be a much smaller market product, I believe the intent was to only sell it through DG's website. I will confirm everything when I find out.
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Good info Richy! Thanks to you and rwright, I too have become an ardent 501 fan, especially on white cars. Like RPPM, I top it with a Collinite product, since I wasn't really impressed with DG105. The 501/601/476 combo gets my DDs thru Pittsburgh winters like a suit of armor. If their upcoming paint cleaner cleans and corrects like 501, it sounds like the ideal prep for Opti-coat. As usual, I'll be watching your posts.

Bill
 
I just threw out a couple bottles that were a year old that had 601/501 or 601/105 in them, no explosions. Just hardened gel like consistency. One of them did sort of collapse in the middle as if you squeeze it before sealing it.
 
RTexasF said:
If so it would be due to the pad used. The product itself is not intended to correct, only clean and seal. Another instance of the word "Polish" being misleading on DG's part. If I want correction I reach no farther than the Menzerna.
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I'm basically a newcomer to the DG line, so you "old hands" who've used this product numerous times were no doubt aware of this quality of DG501, that it's not the proper product to reach for if one has swirling, and such type of paint correction needed. That you are correct, the name "Polish" is perhaps a misnomer in this case.

Not unusual though, there's other products on the market that call themselves "Polishes" (Zaino comes to mind) which often tout no abrasive qualities in the product.

With that said, I would then say DG501 is not what can be considered an AIO.

Not at all dissing these products, they are very good IMO, but just wanted to make others who've never used them aware of what to expect, and what not to expect-demand from them.

I'll definitely be buying more of DG goodies, one would no doubt have a very hard time finding better products for so little money.
Mark
 
Bang for the buck, ease of use, durability, all these things Duragloss products are right at the top of the detailing chain. Another nice option with them you can use them in full sunlight. I have not had any trim staining issues with 105,601,501, 101, or 111. AquaWax and Fast Clean and Shine Detail spray are also fantastic products. Another product of theirs I like is the All Wheel Cleaner. Really does a nice job cleaning wheels, yet is gentle on the finish.
 
Off topic:

Would 601 extend the life of other sealants that already have bonding chemicals, like 845?
 
I love Duragloss products and have been using them for years. They are my "go to" supplier and will continue to be until someone comes up with a line that performs as well at their price point. Having said that, I wonder why they feel a need to produce a bonding agent, separate from the sealant itself? They acknowledge that products like 105 and 111 can be stand alone LSPs but to further their durability and enhance their performance, 601 is a necessary component. Why this separate product I wonder?

As far as I know, they are the only ones who have this kind of caveat to their sealants. What they are saying in effect is our sealants will perform very well on their own but buy this other thing, mix them all up and they will perform even better. It really does not make sense but if Duragloss can sell two or three product components to accomplish the same thing as others do by selling one product (such as the 845), more power to them.
 
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