How do I finish this down - 2010 black A5

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Good evening gentlemen. My wife's flat black 2010 Audi A5 had received a few dealer washes. The car looks great at a distance and has a great gloss to it but under the lights it's swirled up pretty badly. This car, and my CTS-V, have rock hard paint so picked up the Meg's MF cutting disc for my GG6 and hit it with the matching Meg's MF compound. It removed most imperfections on my test spot but left the finish very hazy and gray. I tried XMT 4 on a red CCS at speed 3 and it did nothing to restore the color. Moved to a light green CCS with Optimum Polish II at speed 4.5 and it looked better but brought back some swirls and the color still wasn't there. What should I be using to get the finish, color and gloss I'm looking for? Please help me before I get divorced. :)

Thanks in advance.
 
You need to use a foam pad with finishing polish and that will clear up the haze.
 
Pureshine said:
You need to use a foam pad with finishing polish and that will clear up the haze.
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Agree, on some paints with D300 (im assuming thats what you used) it will finish almost LSP ready. Like any heavy compound, you need to follow up with a fine polish, preferably with a foam pad like Pureshine suggested.
 
Pureshine said:
You need to use a foam pad with finishing polish and that will clear up the haze.
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Thanks Pureshine but which color pad would you recommend? Red didn't seem to get me anywhere with the XMT. I have the Optimum polish, Meg's UP, XMT1, and Menz FF3000. I have white, red, blue and gold LC foam CCS pads. Any recommendations on speed and pressure would be helpful as well. Thanks again.
 
try the menz with the blue or red...im not an XMT guy, and havent tried it, but the Menz should do you right.
 
Try the red first, but if you need more cut then use the white. I'm not familiar with any of those polishes. I would use menz 4000 or 4500.
 
I use ubber pads so not sure which LC pad to use maybe someone else can chime in.
 
primo spaghetti said:
try the menz with the blue or red...im not an XMT guy, and havent tried it, but the Menz should do you right.
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vegas911gts said:
Try the red first, but if you need more cut then use the white. I'm not familiar with any of those polishes. I would use menz 4000 or 4500.
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Really guys? A Red pad? The red and blue pads are ultra soft, more so used for applying wax/sealants or in some instances "jeweling". They dont have the firmness needed when using a fine polish. A white pad will do, but depending on the paint you might be able to get away with a Gray pad.
 
Menzerna 4000 or 4500 with a hydrotech red pad if that isnt doing it go to a hydrotech orange pad little pressure and the ur last two section pass just let the weight of the machine do ilthe work speed 3-4.5.

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HellaBroke said:
Menzerna 4000 or 4500 with a hydrotech red pad if that isnt doing it go to a hydrotech orange pad little pressure and the ur last two section pass just let the weight of the machine do ilthe work speed 3-4.5.

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You mean HydroTech CRIMSON right? Not red.
 
CM8 6MT said:
Really guys? A Red pad? The red and blue pads are ultra soft, more so used for applying wax/sealants or in some instances "jeweling". They dont have the firmness needed when using a fine polish. A white pad will do, but depending on the paint you might be able to get away with a Gray pad.
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given the options, thats what i would try...anyone can recommend stuff someone doesnt have.

but really..ive finished no problem with a blue LC ccs...
 
primo spaghetti said:
given the options, thats what i would try...anyone can recommend stuff someone doesnt have.

but really..ive finished no problem with a blue LC ccs...
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Not saying I "dont" believe you, but using an ultra soft pad to clear up haze isnt exactly the smartest way to go about it. You might be able to get away with using a blue/red pad on ultra soft paint. Even so, going from a MF Disc+D300 to a Red finessing pad just doesnt make sense, IMO.
 
If you are saying that after D300/MF you a left with just haziness, then try a white pad and UP. XMT polishes are DAT so they need to be worked thoroughly. I believe the blue foam would be a better finish pad versus the red, as is intended for lsp application only. With any of the polishes you named I would try to use a white pad and step down to blue if the paint needs more refining.
You do realize you said XMT 4 instead of 1 in your OP?... Freaked me out for a second til I saw you saw you only had XMT 1.
Another thing, you can probably bump up to the 5 setting with moderate down force for the first two section passes. Then lighten up and bump the speed down to 4. If it looks Like the paint is lack the depth of color it should have then the technique I stated may help. Make sure you put a couple tape lines down to test spot your combos and see what improvement, if any is occurring from one combination to the next.

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CM8 6MT said:
Not saying I "dont" believe you, but using an ultra soft pad to clear up haze isnt exactly the smartest way to go about it. You might be able to get away with using a blue/red pad on ultra soft paint. Even so, going from a MF Disc+D300 to a Red finessing pad just doesnt make sense, IMO.
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I agree with Aaron. A red pad isnt going to get you anywhere. You need to be on a white pad and UP to get rid of the hazing.
 
CM8 6MT said:
You mean HydroTech CRIMSON right? Not red.
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Yes sorry.. I call the cyan pad the blue pad "cut" the tangerine pad the orange pad "polish" and they crimson pad the red pad "finish"

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CM8 6MT said:
Not saying I "dont" believe you, but using an ultra soft pad to clear up haze isnt exactly the smartest way to go about it. You might be able to get away with using a blue/red pad on ultra soft paint. Even so, going from a MF Disc+D300 to a Red finessing pad just doesnt make sense, IMO.
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Especially on rock hard Audi paint.
 
Two things are coming to mind when im re reading your first post.
To fix the haze/cloudyness menzerna 4000 or 4500 will take it out useing a hydro tech "chrimson" or "tnagerine" pad.. and the swirls/rids are probably becoming more visible after your getting the haze to go away because they werent taken out all the way with the compound and the haze is playing games with the lighting... so I would work your compound a little more. Maybe thing about picking up some menzerna fg400 as well since it will work beter for your ceramic paint...

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Thanks everyone. I may need to pick up a more appropriate Menz but I'll hit the test spot with CCS white and the Menz I have and see if I can get close. I'll update later today with pics.
 
primo spaghetti said:
given the options, thats what i would try...anyone can recommend stuff someone doesnt have.

but really..ive finished no problem with a blue LC ccs...
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Hi i just want to share my opinion. yes i agree with you i polished a lot of car. in hard paint you can use finishing pad red,grey blue, to remove haze i used rotary. But pc can do that.
 
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