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How much can a detail add to the resale of a auto?. And how much faster would a decent 6 yrs old auto sell with a complete detail full correction 90%?

I have my ideas but i would like input to get a average!!!
 
Not much really I have done a lot of used cars for customers to sell. I think it really helps to sell the car to have it cleaned and looking like new. Most people look at the inside of a car before the out side. So if the car looks great not going to sell for more cause the blue book value is still the same. I never do a full paint correction on a customers used car unless maybe if its black because there not going to make that money back. I'm very honest with my customers about this.
 
According to Lauren Fix, an auto care expert and spokeswoman for the Car Care Council, the value of a "mid-range car" can be increased by $2,000 or more when selling it privately by just sprucing it up and making minor, easy repairs.
 
I'll agree with Pureshine. 90% of folks (that's my scientific number) don't know what, "paint correction," means. And a further 5% don't care about it. The other 5% is your target for this...and those are slim pickings.

That said, optimizing everything possible prevents at least some haggling opportunities. Minimize a scratch and you won't hear, "Let's take $100 off for that..." Ultimately, though, I think supply and demand dictates sale price.
 
Here's another way to look at it:

Use a car that's for sale to practice on. Learning experiences will be more valuable than the money you get out of them.
 
Here's another way to look at it:

Use a car that's for sale to practice on. Learning experiences will be more valuable than the money you get out of them.

Good suggestion.
 
Best thing is do an AIO and detail the inside as best you can. Sadly people don't look at swirls, they look at, "is it shiny, and is the interior clean,"(because in reality that's where you spend the most time in) cant see the paint driving. I just helped my cousin by detailing his F350 work truck. I detailed the interior perfectly, and for the outside, buffed the headlights, clayed, and used DG501. Came out seriously 50x better. That's all that's really needed. I see the same mistake made with rims. Some guy has an old car he wants to sell, thinking it'll sell a ton better, he goes out and spend 1200bucks on rims and tires. Now, to make your money back, you better add 1200 bucks to the price. But on a 4500 dollar car, that now goes up to 5700$. True story too, a guy is selling an old Tahoe, thing is still there after 2 months,(price went too high because of rims).


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How much can a detail add to the resale of a auto?.

-In these hard economic times I often find myself becoming more and more depressed
when I think about my personal vehicles' depreciating values.

(I've heard this axiom all of my life:
A new vehicle loses between 15-20% of its value as soon as it's driven off the lot!)

Along with the above initial-%-depreciation...
Each vehicle has their own reasons for further depreciation over their expected life-cycle.

Brand, model, condition of the exterior/interior---including bumps, bruises, dings/dangs...
how many were assembled, maintenance-schedule, mileage, etc.

Example of two 6 yrs. old vehicles (same make and model):
Vehicle #1:
-Scratches/swirls abound
-Bird Poop/Water etchings galore
-Carpet/Seating stains
-Malodorous cabin area...Smoke/pet urine (hopefully just pet); Old-Man-Smell; etc.

Vehicle #2:
-No swirls/scratches
-No bird poop/water etchings
-Interior looks and smells fantastic.

More than likely to a potential buyer...
-Vehicle #1 probably looks old and worn...inside and out.
-Vehicle #2, on the other hand, probably looks like a brand new car.

IMO, then:
-A potential buyer will probably deem Vehicle #1 to be less desirous/have a lower value.

If I were the potential buyer...
I'd take a hard look at, among others, the:
-Maintenance schedule records
-Tires
-Exhaust
-Transmission
-Braking system
-Rust: Snow-belt/oceanside vehicle
-Why is this Yellow-vehicle listed as being White?!?!

And how much faster would a decent 6 yrs old auto sell
with a complete detail full correction 90%?
Will, then, a well-kept/detailed vehicle bring it to the: "cutting-edge" of the used vehicle market...
Thereby encouraging a quicker sale-rate??<<<IMO: 'Eye, and Billfold/Purse of the Beholder'.

Another thing...
Nowadays...I wonder if the titles are: "Free and Clear"?

:)

Bob
 
For a private sale...maybe. For a dealer trade in, practically NOTHING (some dealers won't even look at the car, they only care about mileage). I spent days getting my last trade-in ready to take to the dealer for a trade. He never even left the building to look at it, and I went elsewhere.
 
WOW! Great answers on here!

It comes down to multiple factors.

1. Before and After

2. How its being sold

3. Actual Vehicle

4. Time invested

5. Money invested.

In October I traded off my Black 2011 Infiniti FX50S. It was on lease and due to HEAVY initial deprecation on that particular vehicle in my town, it was cheaper and faster to have Infiniti buy it back at wholesale then for me to put it up for sale.

I detailed it before they appraised it; two step polish (soft paint on solid black), shampooed the interior, cleaned the leather, waxed with a coat of Pinnacle Souveran. Very thorough cleaning.

Now I want to make it clear, this car had serve steering rack issues, driveline issue (drag racing accident.... :eek: ), bruised from a fight with a construction cone and 3/4 rims had been severely "curbed"/bad road rash (not me I swear!). Because it was in such good condition they gave me full wholesale value, $6000 more than price one tier down.

In that case, did my hard work pay off?? YES! Maybe $30-50 of product invested.

Now when selling a car on your own, will you be able to sell it for MORE? Most likely not! I can say though, it will be an easier sale. You will have to deal with less bickering on price and low ball offers. This is because it shows pride of ownership and usually that would suggest the car has been maintained.

Make sure you draw a line! thorough cleaning and glaze/wax/AIO will go much further than actual paint correction! Get rid of scratches and major road wear and really clean it up!

If you are going to sell, go as cheap as you can on the detail! No point in investing $$$ and huge time on a correction step, you will not see it back in the form of cash!

Best of luck to you!!
 
Here is my recent personal experience (non-scientific) with the trade in of my 2004 F250 Harley Ed. Powerstroke diesel.

I brought my truck "as is" during sugar cane season (muddy and all) to our local Ford dealer and they offered me $15,000 as a trade in. I know some local independent guys, so made a few phone calls, and they were all offering me the same. I questioned a good buddy of mine who told me that the trade in are normally bought by one of 3 local wholesalers to put on their lots or bring to auction.

As it was, nobody was interested in the looks (inside or outside) and all offered me EXACTLY the same.

The next Friday afternoon (after work, and finished on Saturday morning) I gave the truck a full once over. Cost me about $30 in products and I spend about 12hrs. Right after finishing the detail, I went to the Ford dealership about 20 miles away, and before the salesman was able to give me a price on the trade in, I told him to come and do a walk around with me. I told him to take some pics and told him I knew that he was going to try and offload my truck to the local wholesalers. I specifically told him to send the pics first... and then call "his guys". Within 5 minutes I had 2 offers at $16,500 and when they found out they had competing offers one came with a $17,000 offer.

Was it worth it? 12 hrs = $2000.... I would say so!
Will it be the norm.... absolutely not! The average Joe won't duke it out and won't shop it out.

I believe a "pre-sale detail" can be "sold" to a customer interested in a private sale, but definitely will be a hard sell to someone interested in a trade in (unless you come at it with some false stats and "shyster" marketing tactics).

I had a recent detail on a 2010 BMW 335i, getting ready for a private sale. She wanted to beautify 1) inside and 2) outside. Those were her exact priority (which falls in line with what was shared before). Following the detail she asked how I would sell this car to maximize the profit. We spent a good 45 minutes discussing that most purchases are emotional and that the best way to have a successful sale is to get the potential customer "involved". Basically you have to make them:

1) Feel the paint (free of contaminant, smooth as a baby's behind)
2) Discuss the detailing that it just had and the fact that they won't need to touch it after the sale (except for regular washes)
3) Let them feel and smell the supple leather
4) Have a once over on the carpet
5) etc..

A successful sale involves getting the potential customer to "fall in love". Can't do that with a dealership or wholesaler on a trade in.
 
If someone pays $150 to get their car detailed before they put it on their lawn for sale, I would say It will bring at least $500-$750 more. Basically if a customer spends a couple hundred now they should make at least $500 more on the sale of the car.

Just make it clean and shiny. Only people that have a detailing hobby care about full correction.
 
Back in my early twenties l used to buy beaters for less then a grand, detail it and flip it for twice what I paid... until the State of Michigan came down on me for operating without a dealer's license, wtf on that one.

Lucky Joe,
Wannabe Detailer

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...the trade in are normally bought by one of 3 local wholesalers to put on their lots or bring to auction.


...I knew that he was going to try and offload my truck to the local wholesalers.

Was it worth it? 12 hrs = $2000.... I would say so!

A successful sale involves getting the potential customer to "fall in love". Can't do that with a dealership or wholesaler on a trade in.

These are very valid observations. The trick when dealing with a "dealer" is knowing what type of cars they sell, and which ones they don't. Some new car dealers just dont' want some brands on their lots. We had a Jetta for instance that was about 18 months old and we decided to buy a new Accord. The Honda dealer just didn't want VW's on the lot. Even though the car only had 7700 miles on it, their first instinct is to "call the wholesaler, see what he'll pay". They had no intention of retailing it, even though it was a "front line" car. All that comes into play.

At the VW dealer they'd give more for it, but I didn't want a VW. (well my WIFE didn't want a VW) ;) Being in and around the business literally forever we both know prices and used that to our advantage.

I've got a buddy for instance that has a 2008 Tacoma. We just ran the "trade in" values on it and 'clean' versus 'average' is easily $500~$800 and there is NO BIG DIFFERENCE between the two other than appearance. Mechanically they both have to be the same, as well as mileage. It's the paint, gloss, interior lack of stains and smells, etc. that make the difference.

So yes, I would say even if you are trading in (which we all know is the worst possible way to do it) a $250 detail will most likely double that amount back (or more), IF you know your buyer. Dealers will pay less than private sales, but both will pay for the detail. Dealers KNOW that they figure a "recon" into any car that they intend to keep. Now on their lot, with their wash bay guys the average cost is more like $150 and they know that. That is not to mean however that you only get the $150 because you can argue that they don't have to do it 'in house'.



If someone pays $150 to get their car detailed before they put it on their lawn for sale, I would say It will bring at least $500-$750 more. Basically if a customer spends a couple hundred now they should make at least $500 more on the sale of the car.

Just make it clean and shiny. Only people that have a detailing hobby care about full correction.

Hopefully I addressed some of this above too. ;) Just to touch on the 'hobby guys' thing... I went over the weekend to show an old friend how to clean up his wifes ES350. He wanted to see it done, but nothing to do with it, NOTHING! Car is an 07, dark blue met, with over 60K on it, road trips only, not a DD. Stays in the garage most all the time. I was blown away how bad it really was! He kept telling me how it was "her baby" and how she keeps it waxed all the time. NOPE!

Made him spend about 5 hours washing, claying, and going behind me compounding, polishing, sealing, waxing. He loves the way it looks, and even understands it, (somewhat).

And what was his biggest comment??????? "If I had known it would take this much time I would have told you NO!"
Meanwhile I was doing this.....:buffing:
 
I did a correction on a 2001 monte carlo ss for a friend of mines. He posted it on CL for 2k and a hour later got an offer for 2800. He sold it to that caller because he was so happy. 40 - hour and a half mins after selling it, someone texted him and offered 3300, 3500,and 4k. banged his head. I tried to tell him he'd get about 4k for it. Paint corrections can improve the price.
 
I traded in an 04 yukon 80k on the clock in december average trade in was 10k flat I pulled 12.5k it was my first say in how much i wanted and they said ok right off the bat.... knew I should have asked for more but oh well... cut down on the time spent hacking away at msrp of the new car....

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How much can a detail add to the resale of a auto?.

And how much faster would a decent 6 yrs old auto sell with a complete detail full correction 90%?

I have my ideas but i would like input to get a average!!!

You're talking about two different things here.

This is how I look at it...

Increased Value - Doing a full detail will not add all that much to the resale value if anything. If a $250 detail could increase the resale value lets say $1000 then everyone would do it. Now, there are those that will disagree with but it's also likely that these very same people walk into a dealership and pay sticker price.


Faster Sale
- The better a car or truck looks the more likely it is to sell if a buyer is in the market. The key here is to have the vehicle catch a prospective buyers eye enough to bring him in for a closer look.
 
Wife had a '77 Toyota Celica Fastback (red), 300K on the clock. We (she) sold it in 2000 for more than she paid new.

The buyer saw the finish and interior>>>SOLD!

My dad had a '55 Chev that he sold in '67, again finish and interior>>>SOLD!

I have to honestly say, a 'detailed' vehicle does increase resale value.

Now, if we could get the '5th wheel' sold, we'd be happy...LOL.

Bill
 
Wife had a '77 Toyota Celica Fastback (red), 300K on the clock. We (she) sold it in 2000 for more than she paid new.

The buyer saw the finish and interior>>>SOLD!

My dad had a '55 Chev that he sold in '67, again finish and interior>>>SOLD!

I have to honestly say, a 'detailed' vehicle does increase resale value.

Now, if we could get the '5th wheel' sold, we'd be happy...LOL.

Bill

Now THAT brings back memories! ;) While I'd owned 4 cars before, 2 Comet GT's, a GTO, and a 403 Javelin, the first brand new car I ever bought, (in 76) was a 77 Celica (white). Loved that car!!! :)

I too agree, a detailed vehicle not only brings more potential buyers but buyers with MORE MONEY. :xyxthumbs: However, by "detailed" we're not talking about the $39.95 hand wash, dry, spit on the tires thing. We're talking about a full paint correction, multi-step process. Which BTW is something that MOST people don't do, and what's worse.... THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT EXSISTS! :mad: However..... once they SEE it, they WANT it. ;)
 
Wife had a '77 Toyota Celica Fastback (red), 300K on the clock. We (she) sold it in 2000 for more than she paid new.

The buyer saw the finish and interior>>>SOLD!

My dad had a '55 Chev that he sold in '67, again finish and interior>>>SOLD!

I have to honestly say, a 'detailed' vehicle does increase resale value.

Now, if we could get the '5th wheel' sold, we'd be happy...LOL.

Bill

Make sure the trailer is shiny. I sold my old one fairly easy that way :)




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