New Daily Driver Restoration - Paint Correction and 22ple Application

zmcgovern45

New member
Joined
Sep 5, 2012
Messages
3,443
Reaction score
0
My fiance bought this car a few months ago since we truly needed an SUV since both of us had smaller cars at the time. She got it at a good price, so I could not complain, however I knew it was going to require a good amount of work. It was hard to tell the true condition of the paint when we went to see it at the dealer because the car was dirty and had not been washed yet. I could tell there were water spots all over the car, but I was not prepared for them to be as severe as they turned out to be. The driver's side of the car seemed to be much more heavily coated with water spots, and the entire car was covered in swirl marks and a lot of deeper scratches. Since this is a daily driven vehicle that is currently parked outside 24/7, I was not out to correct 100% of the defects, as that would not be reasonable for a car that gets a lot of use. I would estimate 80%-85% correction was achieved, as many heavier defects remain. This car had very thin paint - the measurements averaged around 70 microns throughout the entire car - so I knew I did not want to be too aggressive with my correction if I did not need to be... unfortunately I needed to be more aggressive than I had hoped. However my most aggressive combination needed on the driver's side only removed 4-5 microns according to the before and after readings on my test spot. The car was then coated with 22ple VX1 Pro Coating to provide a semi-permanent protection that would aid in preserving the clear coat and helping to bring out the true depth and gloss of the nicely polished black paint. Overall, I was very happy with the turn around - and my fiance appreciated the hard work. 11 hours well spent.

The goal of this weekend's work was strictly to get the paint looking good. The wheels, tires, engine, and interior will all be addressed in future maintenance washing, however we are due for a snow storm tomorrow so I just wanted to get the paint taken care of and protected while the weather was still tolerable.

Process
Wash: Chemical Guys Citrus Wash and Gloss
Dry: DI Waffle Weave Microfiber
Decontamination: Optimum Opti-Eraser (heavy) on horizontal panels & DI Fine Grade Clay on vertical panels.
Paint Thickness Readings Taken
Correction (Driver's Side, heavy water spots): Meguiar's M105 w/ Yellow LC Pad followed by Meguiar's M205 w/ White LC Pad (applied with Rupes LHR21ES machine)
Correction (rest of car, severe swirls and RIDS): Menzerna Fast Gloss 400 w/ Orange LC Pad followed by Meguiar's M205 w/ Black LC Pad (applied with Rupes LHR 21ES machine)
IPA Wipe Down
Protection: 22ple VX1 Pro Coating


Before

The car was dirty from being driven on a daily basis. It did not appear to look too bad in the afternoon light. The true condition of the paint would be revealed once it was washed and brought into the garage under proper lighting.
32629_230693783735415_39264074_n.jpg


579008_230693787068748_219448486_n.jpg


581887_230693813735412_1736304498_n.jpg


535795_230693843735409_1374348139_n.jpg




During

After washing and drying, I proceeded to remove bonded contaminates using both the opti-eraser (heavy) and fine grade detailing clay. This left the paint feeling much smoother, but unfortunately my work was just beginning.

734147_230693730402087_1067527245_n.jpg


The amount of contamination that was coming off the paint was pretty remarkable. This was after only a few passes on the hood.
221662_230693733735420_786738087_n.jpg


After the entire car was decontaminated, the true condition of the paint was revealed. Here you can see the dull appearance that the paint has with the etched water spots on the hood... and these were no where near as bad as what was waiting for me on the driver's side of the car.
8468_230693727068754_910291660_n.jpg


The entire car was covered in swirl marks and RIDS (random isolated deeper scratches). This also added to the dull finish.
208956_230693857068741_590511053_n.jpg


543695_230693870402073_840121080_n.jpg


598657_230693927068734_755074827_n.jpg


I began on the driver's side - as I felt it needed the most attention. I started my test spot with M205 + white pad just to see where it would get me... literally nothing happened. I then went to M105 + white pad.... there was an improvement, but it was not what I was hoping to see. I decided if I was going to spend the time polishing the car I needed to see better results, so I stepped it up to M105 + yellow pad. This was much better, however it left a large amount of micro-marring (to be expected) which was then corrected with M205 + white pad. There were still several water spots that were simply too deep to fully correct, but the improvement was outstanding.
392858_230693983735395_906560816_n.jpg


After correcting the driver's side I made my way to the passenger's side and decided to do a new test spot as I felt I would probably not need to be as aggressive on this side. The water spots were considerably better, however there were tons of swirls.
8385_230693937068733_1142736133_n.jpg


Again I tried M205 + White pad first to see what it would get me. It cleared up a good amount of the swirls, but left the majority of the deeper imperfections behind. Again I decided I would need to step it up to achieve the results I was after.
576559_230693953735398_1445822488_n.jpg


I moved up to FG400 + Orange Pad and was very pleased with the results. This also left some haze behind, so it was later followed up with M205 + Black pad to finish down even better. Here are the results after compounding.
526943_230693963735397_1949128897_n.jpg


There were a good amount of tighter areas that required 3" pad - here is an example of the front bumper. Before and After.
206234_230693977068729_457213132_n.jpg


179057_230694003735393_557467912_n.jpg


Next, I worked my way to the rear of the vehicle, which also required a good amount of work with the 3" pads. I also decided to remove the dealership sticker for a cleaner look.
320537_230694013735392_1868959298_n.jpg


549795_230695277068599_1818053627_n.jpg




After

The polishing process was a long process, but the results were worth it. The car is now a true deep black color and the reflections in the paint are crystal clear and vivid. It is like looking into a mirror. The car was protected with a permanent coating - 22ple VX1 Pro Coating - to help make it easier to maintain and to preserve the nicely polished finish.
401302_230694033735390_98853619_n.jpg


581509_230694047068722_1930746140_n.jpg


Look at those crisp, clear reflections! 22ple will continue to cure for 5 days and the gloss will continue to be enhanced.
423398_230694063735387_753239798_n.jpg


482090_230694077068719_1877100617_n.jpg


578743_230694083735385_1844548494_n.jpg


577639_230694103735383_515502367_n.jpg


550000_230694113735382_1472319891_n.jpg


Remember the dull lifeless paint before? It is a thing of the past now!
388511_230694140402046_733186628_n.jpg


554918_230694163735377_148553184_n.jpg




Thanks for looking! Please leave your comments below!

 
Wow great job. I can't believe how bad the paint in the car was, specially those water spots. Great save!
 
Looks good to me! :dblthumb2: Were there water spots on the glass as well? Did you have to go over the glass with any sort of polish or abrasive?
 
Wow, that's some serious paint abuse on a car that's not very old. Great job bringing it back where it should be!
 
Those have to be some of the worst swirls on record and man did it come out great! :props:
 
Zach, I know you were worried about the PTG readings on that car. I'm glad everything came out OK for you. The car looks fantastic.

BTW I wonder what wash media the previous owner used? Stiff brush or Brillo pad lol. Holy Moly it was swirl city before you got ahold of it and brought that paint back to life. Great Job!
 
Swirl city is gone, great recovery. I'll bet she's very happy now.

Are you satisfied with how the Rupes performed, glad you bought it?
 
Wow great job. I can't believe how bad the paint in the car was, specially those water spots. Great save!
^Thank you!

Looks good to me! :dblthumb2: Were there water spots on the glass as well? Did you have to go over the glass with any sort of polish or abrasive?
^The water spots are just as bad on the glass... a real shame. I am leaving that for another day. A friend of mine just picked up the ceriglass polish and a glass cutting pad - waiting to hear his feedback on those products.

Wow, that's some serious paint abuse on a car that's not very old. Great job bringing it back where it should be!
^Thanks!

Those have to be some of the worst swirls on record and man did it come out great! :props:
^Thank you! - it was definitely hammered!

Zach, I know you were worried about the PTG readings on that car. I'm glad everything came out OK for you. The car looks fantastic.

BTW I wonder what wash media the previous owner used? Stiff brush or Brillo pad lol. Holy Moly it was swirl city before you got ahold of it and brought that paint back to life. Great Job!
^Thanks! The initial readings were low, but after doing a series of test spots it was apparent that I would need to be rather aggressive. I took before and after readings and it seemed that even the M105+yellow pad only removed 4-5 microns, so I felt that it was OK assuming I will never need to use more than a finishing polish on this car for the remainder of the time that we own it.

Swirl city is gone, great recovery. I'll bet she's very happy now.

Are you satisfied with how the Rupes performed, glad you bought it?
^Thanks! Usually she does not fully understand why I spend my entire weekend in the garage polishing cars, but this time she admitted "OK, I can see it made a big difference." Score!

The Rupes performed very well. It had a little bit of a learning curve - the "soft start" is sort of weird, and because the overall length of the machine (from the the front grip to the rear handle) is much longer than I was used to (compared to the PC7424) I found that I was not always keeping the pad perfectly flat - I was holding the machine tilted slightly towards the rear. Once I figured that out, it was a much smoother feeling machine and I did not have to fight it at all. I did feel that I needed to use very light to moderate pressure at best to remove even the worst defects, which is a nice save for your arms and back. I used mine with the 5.5" pads for this job, and liked it. I will have to spend some more time behind it to decide if it is a total game changer, but my initial thoughts are positive.

Great job!
:buffing:

Superb turnaround! Real value for time and effort!
^Thanks!
 
^The water spots are just as bad on the glass... a real shame. I am leaving that for another day. A friend of mine just picked up the ceriglass polish and a glass cutting pad - waiting to hear his feedback on those products.

Give M105 on a 5.5 inch Lake Country CCS or flat pad (whichever one you have - I like the CCS pads) a try. They gave me the following results:

water spots on glass



glass before


glass after M105 on orange 5.5 inch CCS pad on G110v2 (pardon the dust)
 
Give M105 on a 5.5 inch Lake Country CCS or flat pad (whichever one you have - I like the CCS pads) a try. They gave me the following results:

I actually decided to do a quick test spot when I was doing the A-Pillar with the 3" pad (orange + m105)... I used it on the glass, and saw no visible improvement. Thanks for the tip though - I'll definitely give it another shot once the temps warm back up. It was 50 degrees yesterday, and I woke up to snow on the ground this morning... gotta love (hate!!!!) the midwest weather.
 
What were the paint thickness readings after everything was done?
 
What were the paint thickness readings after everything was done?

zmcgovern45 said:
However my most aggressive combination needed on the driver's side only removed 4-5 microns according to the before and after readings on my test spot.

^They averaged 4-5 microns less on the side that I needed to use M105+yellow followed up by M205+white. I honestly did not take any more readings after I determined that that approach was not too detrimental to the clear coat. I would assume the FG400 w/ orange pad followed by M205 w/ black pad that was used on the majority of the car would have removed slightly less.
 
How did the application process go for the 22ple? Outstanding results!
 
How did the application process go for the 22ple? Outstanding results!

Application of 22ple was very easy... as always. Simply wipe it on with a foam applicator, allow it to sit for 3-5 minutes, then remove.
 
Wow!! Amazing results!!

I saw that you did the 22ple on your IS also. How's holding up? -thats another thread, my bad-
 
Wow!! Amazing results!!

I saw that you did the 22ple on your IS also. How's holding up? -thats another thread, my bad-

It's been 4-5 months since I applied it to the IS and water still beads and sheets like the day I applied it. So far so good!
 
Back
Top