Junkman2008
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Horrible wash mitt
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newbdetailer
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I can assure you these are not the same. The Adams will not scratch a cd when new. After several uses it may, but that's just from minerals drying in it and dirt, etc. Any "yellowish" fake wool mitt will destroy a cd even when brand new.
OUCH!! That's awful, I have been there before.
Don't often get this recommendation on the forum, however, I use a natural sea sponge, a sea wool sponge in particular. I had similar problems with a variety of mits and after using a natural sea sponge I will never go back.
- Softest product I have used
- Holds a ton of soap and water
- Has a tremendous amount of nap to pull in dirt away from your paint during the wash
- They are very durable, just don't use bleach or other harsh chemicals
- MOST IMPORTANT - they release dirt and other particulate picked up off the car better than any product on the market
Junkman2008
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Question. How does it do this?
...which kinda contradicts your first point? I don't know, so I'm looking for an explanation that has some theory behind it.
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Blackthorn One
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I don't know if nap is the right word. I have one of these I haven't used, and it has a very irregular surface with lots of big and small holes. There are very tiny holes throughout the sponge, which I have never seen in a synthetic sponge. I'm not sure about sponges, but it is clear to me a natural sponge is much safer than synthetics.
I use a boar's hair brush lightly followed my a microfiber chenille mitt for my second wash.
Ok so today here in IL it just so happened to be a rather nice day and I decided to wash my eclipse. I have been waiting for a chance to use my Chemical Guys Premium Extra Thick Wash Mitt. I knew ahead of time that some ppl do not like them be since some have experienced marring. But I decided to give it a shot nonetheless.
Here is where things went downhill. I used the wash mitt with the CG citrus wash n clear. I went in straight lines and rinsed after every panel going from top o bottom. Right after rinsing, my hear sank. My baby was COVERED in micro scratches and marred like hell. All defects were in straight lines, just like I washed!
I was furious. I had corrected my paint around 4 weeks ago after spending 12 hours, and I ruined it in 1 hour. Not only did I waist money on a wash mitt NOT made properly, but I had to spend 5 hours re-polishing my car with m205 and a white pad.:buffing: I'm exhausted and frustrated beyond belief. I might be able to upload a couple photos later of the aftermath of the wash.
In the end though I strongly suggest to everyone who has that prticular wash mitt or was thinking on buying it, DON'T USE IT!!!! :nomore:Trust me it WILL marr your paint, this is coming from someone who owns a black car that shows all imperfections!
On a side note, what is the softest wash mitt out in the market? I'm eager to know
Check the car wash method out in the link below. I think
it's awesome! Definitely will help in the continuing goal of
NOT causing marring/swirls! Just my 2 cents!
Basic Car Wash | AMMO NYC
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So what you posted before would best be described as opinion since there is no scientific explanation, which is fine, I just wanted to make sure that I was not missing out on some new technology.
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Well, synthetic sponges have an overall flat surface, which would drag dirt across the paint, while natural ones are cavernous, and so would scoop dirt up and away from the paint surface much more, causing less scratching than a synthetic sponge.
I think the physics are quite straight forward.
The next question is, how gentle is a clean sea sponge on a clean car, or the CD test?
Which scratches less, a natural sea sponge, dry or wet, or a lambs wool mitt, dry or wet?
Basically you would need to test lambs wool side by side against a natural sea sponge for a long time to determine the safe one.
I still sooner trust a microfiber mitt, because it has an even more irregular surface that adapts more.
Basically a natural sponge scoops up the dirt and holds it in the soft holes, and then releases the dirt when rinsed. It's all about the texture and softness of the natural sea sponge.
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But it also has flat surfaces, which do exactly the opposite of what the holes are doing.
Blackthorn One
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Natural sea sponges look like this. I don't consider them flat. When wet, I don't see how they would be much flatter than a lambs wool mitt. In fact, I would think that a wet lambs wool mitt lies flatter than a sea sponge, because a sea sponge is naturally springy enough to maintain it's shape across the surface.
Large Natural Sea Sponge
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I'm not sure as I have never used one. I had to search high and low to find a mitt that wouldn't scratch my paint and believe me, I am extremely anal about my paint. What I ended up finding totally blew me away because of where it can be purchased. Before I tried it, there was no way that anyone could have gotten me to believe that mitt was worth any more than two rocks in a sack.
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I think this wash method method here is essential for the most sensitive paint.
I always wash a car twice. The first time I go really light, and then rinse. The second time, I wash all of the dirt off. If I were to attempt to wash all the dirt off with just one wash, I know I would instill some marring.
What mitt would that be?Im the MAN
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i would also like to know.
Junkman2008
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This one.
Here's the deal. I have seen a bunch that look exactly like that one, were the same color as that one and were priced more than that one. NONE of them were the same. I couldn't believe that wash mitt did not scratch my paint. That's why you see me using it in my 2-bucket wash videos. That mitt is the ONLY mitt I have used for years. I bought it in a crunch one day and never went back to what I use to use.
As far as I'm concerned, best mitt on the market and you can buy it over the counter. If it doesn't scratch my soft clear coat, you guys don't have anything to worry about.