Why I will never pay more than $20 for a wax!

So, you have good quality and not cheap prep material and you're not going to protect all that effort you did with a $4 wax? LOL... I can see this wax not even protecting for a month.
 
That is exactly what I am saying. The pop is in the prep, not the wax. As far as spending all that money . . . I'm a detailer. Those are tools of my trade. And yes, my Range Rover "deserves" better than a $4 wax. But come on guys. I found it in the garage while I was working and remembered that I bought it at Big Lots. I didn't go out and buy that wax for my truck. Come on . . . Really?

Anyway. My point is what we here at autogeek know. It's not about the wax. It's about the technique and tools.

Just got my Nattys Red in the mail today. Gonna give that a try this weekend.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
how hard was it to remove and completely buff off .... that's what I remember as the least attractive feature of store bought products.

At the end of the day its all about what works for you and what meets your budget. Often times I think about Finishkare and Collonite at that price point also, and they both offer a lot of value.
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It was not too bad to remove. Maybe because of the glaze?

It was just something I came across in the garage the other day. I'll not be using it. It was really just trying to make a point. I'm gonna try Nattys red this weekend. See how I like how it looks. Care to send me a sample of Souveran? Lol
 
dc52nv said:
Not to knock your $4 wax but if you took pictures before you applied the wax, I'm pretty sure the same shine would be there after all the prep products used.
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My point exactly!
 
Oh the pop is for SURE in the prep.
OTOH, if that puppy is the supercharged version, didn't it run like $75K new and gets <15mpg? Heck, I'd not be able to afford gas for that puppy, much less esoteric wax. :joking: :p
 
I think it comes down to this if your happy with how your cars looks great thats all that matters.
 
Swissvax Mystery! (LOL found this suiting for this thread!)

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The thing I notice about this paint also...no orange peel. Nice paint + good prep + good wax = Nice shine + good reflections.

I had a black Jeep Liberty diesel that had awful, terrible, bad orange peel from the factory and it never would create nice clean reflections.

Nice job Goodloe3! :xyxthumbs:

I just recently used Signature Series II after 18 years of using less expensive OTC wax. My fanciest wax being NXT. I found myself in so many situations where I was rubbing and buffing like a maniac to get OTC waxes/glazes off.

Stepping up to proper prep (machine polish) and then SSII on my car was one of the nicest waxing experiences of my life.

Then SWMBO showed up, snapped me outta fantasy land, and told me to haul in the groceries.... :hungry:

I thought the whole clay bar thing was brilliant when that came out years ago, and now for the first time I tried Iron-X...I was blown away by how clean the paint was after that. Noticeably improved vs just claying.
 
Nick E said:
The thing I notice about this paint also...no orange peel. Nice paint + good prep + good wax = Nice shine + good reflections.

I had a black Jeep Liberty diesel that had awful, terrible, bad orange peel from the factory and it never would create nice clean reflections.

Nice job Goodloe3! :xyxthumbs:

I just recently used Signature Series II after 18 years of using less expensive OTC wax. My fanciest wax being NXT. I found myself in so many situations where I was rubbing and buffing like a maniac to get OTC waxes/glazes off.

Stepping up to proper prep (machine polish) and then SSII on my car was one of the nicest waxing experiences of my life.

Then SWMBO showed up, snapped me outta fantasy land, and told me to haul in the groceries.... :hungry:

I thought the whole clay bar thing was brilliant when that came out years ago, and now for the first time I tried Iron-X...I was blown away by how clean the paint was after that. Noticeably improved vs just claying.
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Thanks for noticing the lack of orange peel!
I did wet sand it some time ago. I bought a junk hood at a Pull-A-Part a while back and practiced sanding and buffing. It was a hood off of a Cadillac Catera that was metallic green. By the time I was done, that hood looked incredible. I was totally amazed.

I couldn't stand it anymore, so I wet sanded the hood of the Rover. Pictures don't do it justice. In person it is truely breath taking. I buffed all the way down to Meguiars hand polish with a finishing pad on the air sander. Once I finished with a sample of WG DGPS with some Liquid Souveran samples I traded for . . . It was truly spectaular.

Again, Thanks for noticing
 
cardaddy said:
Oh the pop is for SURE in the prep.
OTOH, if that puppy is the supercharged version, didn't it run like $75K new and gets <15mpg? Heck, I'd not be able to afford gas for that puppy, much less esoteric wax. :joking: :p
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It is Supercharged, 500 HP and will knock your socks off!!

I can't afford to pay a lot on wax because, you are right it does get about 13 mpg. But man put the Shell 93 octane in and whoa! So I buy the cheap wax and save the money for high octane gas!! (joking . . .:)
 
Goodloe3 said:
. . I'm a detailer. Those are tools of my trade.
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As a detailer, we are the guinea pigs of trying new products and you did just that, nothing wrong. I still have some Black Magic products that have been sitting for about two years now. I won't throw them out as it might be useful in an emergency run-out situation of another product.

Nice car collection btw!
 
Goodloe3 said:
Thanks for noticing the lack of orange peel!
I did wet sand it some time ago. I bought a junk hood at a Pull-A-Part a while back and practiced sanding and buffing. It was a hood off of a Cadillac Catera that was metallic green. By the time I was done, that hood looked incredible. I was totally amazed.

I couldn't stand it anymore, so I wet sanded the hood of the Rover. Pictures don't do it justice. In person it is truely breath taking. I buffed all the way down to Meguiars hand polish with a finishing pad on the air sander. Once I finished with a sample of WG DGPS with some Liquid Souveran samples I traded for . . . It was truly spectaular.

Again, Thanks for noticing
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WOW. :dblthumb2: to you then bud!

I wouldn't pull out sand paper on the Jeep (if I still had it) even knowing what I know now! Let alone a Rover! You really did a killer job on it though, congrats on that!

I'm curious did you use a paint meter or were you flying blind? I think a paint meter is the only thing that would make me comfortable enough to attempt a big wet sand job like that.

500 HP... :props: WIN

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Nick E said:
WOW. :dblthumb2: to you then bud!

I wouldn't pull out sand paper on the Jeep (if I still had it) even knowing what I know now! Let alone a Rover! You really did a killer job on it though, congrats on that!

I'm curious did you use a paint meter or were you flying blind? I think a paint meter is the only thing that would make me comfortable enough to attempt a big wet sand job like that.

500 HP... :props: WIN


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I didn't use a paint thickness gauge. So I guess I was flying blind. I really just wanted to lower the peaks on the orange peel so I went slow. Very slow. I was quite nervous but i went ahead anyway. When I saw that the peaks were knocked down enough, I stopped and went to compounding. It wasn't completely flat but the high points were gone. By the time I finished compounding and polishing, the orange peel was all but gone. Gave a really nice reflection, but not perfect.
 
dc52nv said:
Not to knock your $4 wax but if you took pictures before you applied the wax, I'm pretty sure the same shine would be there after all the prep products used.
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So what you are saying is if you have great prep, it does not matter what wax is use.
Therefore, a 4 dollar is the smartest way to go.

I agree with the writer. However, that said, if detailing is your business and you need to show a customers the wax you are going to use on his car, a $ 4.00 wax is not smart.

If you are a hobbist and you beleive that your car will not love you less you use the most expensive stuff on it- it is your money - go for it.

Harv
 
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