No lying. Let's be honest.

-I'm absolutely appalled, even embarrassed (yet, somehow not overly surprised/shocked) after reading
through and taking note of several of the varied responses to this thread-starter of the OP's.


-It is no wonder, IMHO, that the "Detailing Profession", and the folks that profess to be "Detailers",
are often disrespected, derided...even looked upon with utter disdain!!

Once again the not-so-polite, disparaging connotation:
"Glorified Shoe-Shine Boy"...comes to the fore.


-Makes me seriously wonder what other facets of their lives some folks will also tend to shirk;
yet nonetheless, at times, are expecting to be remunerated for doing so...
no matter, whatsoever, the reason(s) they try to conjure-up.

:(

Bob
 
From an Auto Body perspective,
A "Detailer" is just a car wash guy, lower than a "buffer"

So a Detailer at a Body shop is low at the totem pole.

My manager once told me however. "Running a body shop is a team effort, there is no lower or higher person here. We all count the same"

He was a manager that if you were having trouble with something, he would get dirty a long side with you, step in and do the work himself if he had to, to try and fix the problem.

But thanks to AG, I have realized I am not the only one that loves "True Detailing" and it is about Quality not Quantity.

Attention to Detail
 
A true professional detailer will not cut corners and do the job the right way thats why they are paying you a premium price for. Now that said if you get one customer who pays you top $$$ and they notice that that top was not done what are you going to tell them.That it was a pain in the ass and you didn't want todo it.
 
FUNX725 said:
-I'm absolutely appalled, even embarrassed (yet, somehow not overly surprised/shocked) after reading
through and taking note of several of the varied responses to this thread-starter of the OP's.


-It is no wonder, IMHO, that the "Detailing Profession", and the folks that profess to be "Detailers",
are often disrespected, derided...even looked upon with utter disdain!!

Once again the not-so-polite, disparaging connotation:
"Glorified Shoe-Shine Boy"...comes to the fore.


-Makes me seriously wonder what other facets of their lives some folks will also tend to shirk;
yet nonetheless, at times, are expecting to be remunerated for doing so...
no matter, whatsoever, the reason(s) they try to conjure-up.

:(

Bob
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In the money, as usual, Bob.
 
All of these replies about "Quality over Quantity" and I never skip the roof of an SUV sounds like a bunch of bs to me. Have you ever crouched on the roof of an Escalade or Sequioa? I have and those roofs will leave a dent if you are over 150lbs which I know most of you are over that weight capacity. I would much rather tell them that I cleaned and waxed the roof than explain to them why I left a big concave dent on their roof.
 
hernandez.art13 said:
From an Auto Body perspective,
A "Detailer" is just a car wash guy, lower than a "buffer"

So a Detailer at a Body shop is low at the totem pole.

My manager once told me however. "Running a body shop is a team effort, there is no lower or higher person here. We all count the same"

He was a manager that if you were having trouble with something, he would get dirty a long side with you, step in and do the work himself if he had to, to try and fix the problem.

But thanks to AG, I have realized I am not the only one that loves "True Detailing" and it is about Quality not Quantity.

Attention to Detail
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You have to remember that the natives consider the object at the bottom of the totem pole is regarded to be the most important.
 
Theo_Auto_Fines said:
All of these replies about "Quality over Quantity" and I never skip the roof of an SUV sounds like a bunch of bs to me. Have you ever crouched on the roof of an Escalade or Sequioa? I have and those roofs will leave a dent if you are over 150lbs which I know most of you are over that weight capacity. I would much rather tell them that I cleaned and waxed the roof than explain to them why I left a big concave dent on their roof.
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You don't need to get on the roof of anything. If you do you're an idiot. My mom has a Sequoia and I've done it many times for her. Until my recent purchase of my platforms last fall I've always done roofs by standing inside the doors or particularly in my moms, one foot on the back tire and one in the door. It's not that hard and there is no excuse to cut corners.
 
Theo_Auto_Fines said:
All of these replies about "Quality over Quantity" and I never skip the roof of an SUV sounds like a bunch of bs to me. Have you ever crouched on the roof of an Escalade or Sequioa? I have and those roofs will leave a dent if you are over 150lbs which I know most of you are over that weight capacity. I would much rather tell them that I cleaned and waxed the roof than explain to them why I left a big concave dent on their roof.
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That's why people buy work platforms. If I, as an enthusiast, can polish out a ridged Honda Pilot roof top for my first panel ever after my first test spot ever, while using a 10 year old flimsy step ladder, then I don't see why the detailers who are being PAID to clean/correct/protect the vehicle properly can't buy a proper work platform and perform the work necessary for a job well done.

I'm all for cutting corners when it doesn't affect my quality of work or reputation. Skipping out on the roof of a vehicle, especially one you're being paid to do, does not fit that bill in the slightest.
 
I tried to not do it. I thought " Yeah. Why should I wax up there? That's a lot of surface".
But the ole saying prevailed " A job worth doing is worth doing right". Darn that ole saying!

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I typically go all out on every part of my suv and minivan except the roof. The roof i do a quick spray wax on becuase my driveway is too narrow for a ladder and i cant do it in the street.

I did however recently buy exo and i plan on biting the bullet and dointhe roof properly on both cars in the near future. On my 350z and sedan i always do the roof because they r easy to reach.
 
Last month I gave our ML350 a complete detailing (wash, clay, 2 step correction, 2 coats sealant and a waxing. The roof is just too high for people to really see so I skipped the 2nd correction (jeweling) step. And instead if a coat of Fusion I applied Collinite 845. Normally when I throw an additional coat of wax every month I might skip the roof once or twice. So yes, I get a bit lazy with it. But as long as I know its protected then I am fine.

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hernandez.art13 said:
Due to my disability, if I can't reach over on my tippy toes. I don't have the courage to even try to get on a step latter.

Falling from a step stool and hurting myself is not something I could put a price on.

But I have thought about it, on building up the courage. Lol

I don't even go up on a step latter to change the light bulb. I have sadly came to the realization that me in the hospital again is way, way more important for me to avoid then, proving myself. Lol eh oh well.

I just smile and work on the things I can do (physically) and then do it so many times that I master them.
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Give a neighborhood kid some money to put a coat of sealant on the roof once a year.
 
If someone pay's you detail their truck and you do not do a complete job without telling them then your are some what less than honest. You need to explain to our costumer just what you are doing for his money. You are not obligated to do the roof if that is the deal, but a completed job means a complete job. If you detailed my SUV I would really pissed it I found out that you short shifted me.
 
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slimnib said:
Give a neighborhood kid some money to put a coat of sealant on the roof once a year.
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Did not think about this! Good idea.

Also i've been introducing detailing to my lady and she said "I'll do do it!" She is great to btw, super hard worker she has been working 12 hour shifts from 6am-6pm then back to work the next day 6am (because the owner, he just had a baby)

What I do have to figure out is paint correction on SUV roofs. A 3" pad sounds good, but how to get up there is the problem lol
 
Lol wondered the same thing. On my moms expedition I clayed and applied 2 coats of sealant last year...
 
Who mentioned anything about skipping?? At least Im upfront about not using a buffer on the roof. How often does someone call it a full detail and they dont even extract the carpets?? or better yet clean the door jambs. These are all ad ons to most detailers and for me to take the risk of getting on the roof ( to those who claim they can do the entire roof using a "platform" I call BS on that).

You cannot put even pressure on the polisher by using one hand. You litterally have to crouch on the roof to get that accomplished on a big SUV.
 
hoyt66 said:
I tried to not do it. I thought " Yeah. Why should I wax up there? That's a lot of surface".
But the ole saying prevailed " A job worth doing is worth doing right". Darn that ole saying!

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Waxing and doing a paint correction is not the same!!
 
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