96 Black Porsche 993

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DDay61

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Fairly beat up paint with swirls and scratches

Have already ordered the PC with the Menzerna intensive and super polishes.

Looking for best recs regarding sealants/waxes or alternative polishes.

I apologize if these are repeat questions, but there is almost too much info out there.
 
I have a sweet spot for air cooled Porsches. Please post before and after pictures.

Since you have a black vehicle, consider getting a finishing polish like Menzerna SF4500.

I use Menzerna Power Lock sealant topped with Pinnacle Souveran paste wax.
 
Will do. Had plenty of chances to trade for a water cooled but couldn't do it. Got the seats/interior redone by the same guy who did Jerry Seinfelds.
 
34K miles. only summer driven. and even less this year because I got a 2013 H-D FatBoy. i'll get some pics up.
 
Though my 991 has a clear coat, the recommendation to finish with SF4500 is one that I would do. I found that finishing with the "dreaded" Porsche black paint, my best results were using a crimson Hydrotech finishing pad and Menzerna SF4500. Anything less and you'd be cheating yourself of that perfect finish (excuse the SONAX pun).
 
thanks!

all good suggestions.

won't even ask about the wheels yet.

suggestions for wax/sealants?
 
DDay61 said:
thanks!

all good suggestions.

won't even ask about the wheels yet.

suggestions for wax/sealants?
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In no particular order... Some favourites of this forum

1. Collinite 845
2. Menzerna Power Lock / Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant / Blackfire Wet Diamond
3. Opti Coat
 
Menzerna FG400 is an excellent choice if you have a lot of oxidation. I've used a yellow pad but been reading folks are having better results with a MF pad. I follow up with SF4000. Just beware of dusting problems with the FG400. Used a spray of water or QD to keep it damp once you start seeing some dusting. After polishing I use the PL Sealant. Very easy to put on and buff off. Then finish it off with a coat of CL Color Lock Carnuba Wax.

Make sure you post some pictures! Would love to see your ride! Good luck with your project and enjoy!
 
DDay61 said:
thanks!

all good suggestions.

won't even ask about the wheels yet.

suggestions for wax/sealants?
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My favorite for Porsche black is Dodojuice Supernatural. Very good depth and mean reflections. Good luck!
 
thanks to all for your awesome help

right now, my goal is just to get the swirls/scratches out. then, it's open to anything.
 
So, I might actually be able to help you here. I've had a black 996 cab for several years and I've never been able to really get it right. I've tried combination after combination, but have never been satisfied. In fact, I thought Megs 105/205 made it worse instead of better. This week, I tried something new. Here's what I used:

Griot's clay

Menzerna Super Intensive Polish with orange Lake Country 5.5" Smart Pads

Menzerna Super Finish 4500 with white Lake Country 5.5" Smart Pads

Black Fire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection with black Lake Country Smart Pads

Holy Crap! It looks unbelievable. The car is 15 years old. I detailed it to park it with the other Porsches at the PorschePlatz at the Baltimore Grand Prix. I kid you not, the paint looked better - far better than any other Porsche there. I can't believe how well it came out. It's ridiculous. Give it a shot and see what you think.
 
For a traditional wax, I've used Zymöl (the fact that it was developed with PCA actually had nothing to do with it at the time) with fantastic results. I think any pure, finishing carnauba wax would be the way to go. Layerability and amped up gloss is what they would deliver.

Honestly, with all the polishing you're doing you could throw Meguiar's cleaner/wax on there and it would look fantastic. I don't used sealants, but I do use coatings, and would be happy to comment and recommend some if you decide to go that route (I think it would be wise to consider). Many consider most coatings to just be "extended life sealants", anyways. When I had Opti-Coat 2.0 on the 991, I topped it all the time with a finishing wax and could 100% tell a difference. I found the notion that you cannot put anything over it to be false.
 
On a black porche cayenne I didi a couple of days ago I used
Rupes 21
Rupes yellow pad and scholl s17
Rupes white pad and menzerna finalfininsh
Optimum car wax
Optimum opti-bond

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Hope it was ok with the pictures :-)
 
Great! Bought the menz polishes

Coatings scare me since I'm new and the lock in everything. Something when I'm better.

Will post pics when tis been washed.
 
Well, it looks like you have something to do;-)

I have read that Porsche paint is pretty soft, I I experienced the same thing. Or what do you guys say?

I should just do a test area and see what results I get with the products you bought, do it on a lower section on the door, fender.
 
Stampe said:
Well, it looks like you have something to do;-)

I have read that Porsche paint is pretty soft, I I experienced the same thing. Or what do you guys say?

I should just do a test area and see what results I get with the products you bought, do it on a lower section on the door, fender.
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My black Porsche paint was softer than I ever could have imagined (note: I am not a professional detailer and have not detailed droves of cars like them, so my "soft" could be different than yours.) I think that most will agree that black Porsche paint is among the softest you'll encounter. Of course, do a test spot to confirm. Always best to start with the least aggressive, especially because the soft paint may correct a lot easier than you were initially expecting.
 
I didn't expect the pics to look that grim. Some of that may be due to light and angles because, to the naked eye, it doesn't look that awful. That said, I'm going to start with Menz 4500 or 4000. Problem is that the 4500 is out of stock. Any suggestions for an alternate to the 4500?

I plan on starting on a fender section.

And, here's a complete beginner question. How do I treat the plastic body panels (rear and front bumper covers)?

Thanks for everybody's help
 
DDay61 said:
I didn't expect the pics to look that grim. Some of that may be due to light and angles because, to the naked eye, it doesn't look that awful. That said, I'm going to start with Menz 4500 or 4000. Problem is that the 4500 is out of stock. Any suggestions for an alternate to the 4500?
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New member started a similar thread last week, see my replies...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/69817-83-porsche.html



DDay61 said:
And, here's a complete beginner question. How do I treat the plastic body panels (rear and front bumper covers)?

Thanks for everybody's help
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If they are painted, treat like normal painted body panels. If they are plastic treat with a plastic dressing or sealant. Wolfgang makes a very good one...


How to restore exterior black plastic trim

Meaty stuff kicks in starting in post #18


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