Hope someone can help. I applied the BF Wet Diamond Paint Sealant and now I'm trying to follow up with the Midnight Sun Carnauba. The paste goes on VERY easy, but I can't seem to get it all the way off. I'm sure there is something wrong with what I'm doing, but I can't figure it out. I'm applying with a P21 applicator and then TRYING to take it off with a cobra mf. However, it's leaving behind a film that I can get off if I rub my fingers across it but can't get it off with my mf towel. It says you aren't suppose to let it dry, just wipe on wipe off, but I'm thinking that might be the problem? Any ideas? So far, I'm not happy. I did my hood, top/roof, and trunk but I'm not doing any more if this stuff is going to be that difficult to get off.
BF Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste Problems
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Sorry, should've mentioned that this is on my 2013 Mercedes C350...white. Also, I washed with CG Citrus, used the Nanoskin Autoscrub Speedy Prep Sponge – Fine Grade, and applied the BF Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection prior to putting on the carnauba. Also, for those of you that have never tried the Wet Diamond Paint Protection...I honestly don't know how you could try it and not fall in love. It doesn't get ANY easier than this product when it comes to a sealant.
Evan.J
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Did you let the sealant cure 12 hours before applying the wax?
Are your apply one panel at at time then removing it?
I have never had any issue with it. What are your weather conditions i know sounds weird but they could affect the wax
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Oh and are you applying it very thin as well?
Are your apply one panel at at time then removing it?
I have never had any issue with it. What are your weather conditions i know sounds weird but they could affect the wax
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Oh and are you applying it very thin as well?
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Yes, the sealant actually cured 24 hours. I might have been putting it on too heavy, don't really know how to tell. Yes, one panel at a time. Typical Tennessee weather conditions, warm and humid.
Evan.J
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You should barely be able to see any wax on the paint when you apply it. The thinner the better and the humidity may have had an issues with with.
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In that case I think I was putting it on way too thick. I could see the swirls where I was putting it. In that case, this jar of wax will last forever!
cleanmycorolla
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If you can see it like that, too thick. BFMS is a tremendous wax, apply thin and enjoy.
wdmaccord
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Thin is the deal with this stuff. I did about 5 swipes to prime a yellow foam applicator and did about 1/4 of the hood. After that, about 2 swipes in the wax for each panel. I did the doors in 1/2's just so I could get it wiped off before hazing. I think I ended up breaking the hood into 1/8's. Came off very easy. Great on dark paint and extra slick...even more so on top of WDAFPP.
Evan.J
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Yep that's me nice thing about applying properly the wax will last you a long time
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I'm wondering what batch # you guys are having issues with. IIRC, there have been slight changes in this wax over time there was an older Proper Auto Care (I think that was the name???) version and the a PBMG/AG version.
If course its supposed to improve with each version, but who knows.
I have one of the older version I haven't used yet. I'm saving it for God knows what until God knows when:
Batch #25:
For some reason I can't bring myself to use it, because its the old version. Maybe one day I'll start a detailing museum.
If course its supposed to improve with each version, but who knows.
I have one of the older version I haven't used yet. I'm saving it for God knows what until God knows when:
Batch #25:
For some reason I can't bring myself to use it, because its the old version. Maybe one day I'll start a detailing museum.
I had the older version. My thoughts at the time were that BFWD was just too slick for the wax to bond, so it just smeared around.
I traded it for some DP Max Wax, and while I lost out on the deal $$ wise, Max Wax applied and removed like a dream, even over BFWD. So I dont know what was up.
I traded it for some DP Max Wax, and while I lost out on the deal $$ wise, Max Wax applied and removed like a dream, even over BFWD. So I dont know what was up.
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Make sure you dont let it dry, the wax had a learning curve but truly a amazing wax.
I applied to half panel and buffed off wet. And 2nd towel to buff dry again.
I applied to half panel and buffed off wet. And 2nd towel to buff dry again.
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It sounds like insufficient curing time for the sealant, or the sealant was applied too thick. Either case would cause the wax to "smear" upon wiping it off, making removal far more labor intensive than it has to be.
I would strip everything off, apply ONE coat of the sealant, wait 24 hours, and apply the wax. You should be fine after this. :dblthumb2:
I would strip everything off, apply ONE coat of the sealant, wait 24 hours, and apply the wax. You should be fine after this. :dblthumb2:
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I've actually applied over BFCS which was over BFWDAFPP. I've never used MS in the same weekend. I put it on a week after the detail and a good 2BM wash. Never had any problems using the WOWO method.
Another question for those of you having removal issues, have you kept it in a climate controlled location? I keep mine inside at all times.
At the time I owned BFMS I used to keep all my waxes in my portable basement in the fridge. However, I needed that power outlet for my battery backup sump I had installed. They are still in the fridge, just at room temp now.
cleanmycorolla
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I still think the removal issues are from heavy handed use. Not being insulting, we all have different levels of a "lite" coat is so that is where I think the problem is.
When I apply I swipe the pot, do the panel and wipe away. Barely 1 min on a panel. Maybe keep it quick?
When I apply I swipe the pot, do the panel and wipe away. Barely 1 min on a panel. Maybe keep it quick?
Thats fine, I probably used too much. But how does that explain how the other waxes I have used I have no issues with?
For instance, just used Fuzion on my Vette a few weeks ago. Wiped on and off like a dream. Same with P21s, Max Wax, Griots Paste, never had an issue.
If what you are suggesting is correct, and Im not saying it isnt, I would respond that in my experience, BFMS is more sensitive to over applying than the other waxes Ive used.
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Perhaps it is more sensitive to over application, however I wouldn't know as I've never had this issue.
Hmmm,, are you using fresh applicators? Hopefully we can nail down some issue!:xyxthumbs: