Pan the Organizer product line...let's discuss@
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SNP209
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Sounds a little too good to be true. General consensus is that diminishing abrasives need more passes for them to break down and work their magic but the benefit is a better finish. But hey technology is constantly evolving so maybe they do have something special.Looks like now they're gong to send their influencers out on a new mission:
Convince them WE did it first!
This person is going after a much smaller brand that keeps it small for "their own crowd". That company just released a line of polishes so now their YTers are going to try "even if it is all the same, we did it first!"
Kind of makes me want to go buy the polish lineup now...Support the small guy.
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I'm definitely all for sample size polishes. I'd like to try it at least.
Will be interesting to see how the THOR cult decides to move that thread forward.
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Klasse Act
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More like which flavor Kool-Aid they've got in those 55 gallon drums
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Well, I done did it. Or should I say, I know someone that knows someone that decided to try a few Hyperclean products - Velo One Step to be used later this month.
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I have not tried Blackfire Trim & Tire Sealant yet but it sounds interesting. I do use WETS and I agree that it looks great to you first apply it but it is gone after a day. I recently tried Griots Garage Ceramic Trim Sealant and I was very pleased. It has lasted many weeks and it makes trim cleaning a lot easier.
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Clean by Pan without shipping from THOR is $18.99 for 16 oz so if you use 2 oz per wash (4 gals mixed) this equates to $2.36 per bucket wash and then toss in more when you add a foam cannon The cost drops about 50% when you use gallons. I looked at MK37 and the basic soap is 0.84 per ounce (no shipping, no discounts) so about $1.68 per bucket (2 oz / 4 gals). DIY dilution is around 1 oz for 4 gallons so only $1.12 per use,
Someone used to have a spreadsheet with soap cost comparions.
Someone used to have a spreadsheet with soap cost comparions.
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Azure
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Every time I've checked in to Pan's YouTube, he's got some product he's pushing. Not a fan. I used to pop in from time to time while I'm getting ready for work to get caught up on new products released. Does he even review other products anymore?
Same is true for the guy out east (in PA, I believe). He used to review and test stuff all the time. Now it's just "his" products. I think he even changed the name of the channel. Again, not a fan.
Same is true for the guy out east (in PA, I believe). He used to review and test stuff all the time. Now it's just "his" products. I think he even changed the name of the channel. Again, not a fan.
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Are you talking about Apex? He apparently sold off his product line. He renamed his channel Auction Car Detailing because he also transitioned out of his detailing business...I think.
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Here is my experience with Clean Quick Detailer.
I don't post much but lurk a fair amount depending on if detailing is the hobby of the month for me. Oh and I buy pads across the way once in a blue moon.
This thread has been awesome! I read it all in three sittings today. Plenty of comic relief, trolling, and whole host of, "I freaking knew it!" moments. A fellow Coloradan or two also. Hard to admit that these days but I have hope of a return to sanity.
I got into detailing in 2014 when I got my first cool car. A Chevy SS! GM's Holden Commodore from our Aussie friends adapted to the US market. As I studied up on how best to preserve my new baby, I quickly smelled enormous amounts horse excrement.
Prior to all that, car soaps and wax came from Wally World or the parts house. If I was out of soap I headed to the kitchen. Frequent touchless or wand type car washes (aka alkali bath) but never a swirl-o-matic except in extreme emergencies. Turtle Wax a time or two a year and call it good. You know what, my vehicles looked pretty good considering. Sure the haziness was there but what did I know? Cleaner waxes helped some. I cleaned truck and boat interiors with my own proprietary process. Just enough Tide in a bucket to break up the surface tension of the water but not foam up. Wet terry cloth wipe down and a dry one to follow. Never, ever, applied any dressings. (still won't to this day) Plastics always looked great!
And now days I'm supposed to use $2 an ounce Unicorntear* Interior cleaner and $50 a can Angelpoop car wax or my truck will melt into a pile of rust and shattered expectations! Then I noticed something. The Unicorntear came in the same exact spray bottle as $.50 an ounce Mulepee! And to my cynical glee, down the rabbit hole I went. I learn't that 3M, BASF, Dow, etc., make the chemicals, unidentified chemistry labs cook the stuff, and the blenders mix it all up, make it smell good, and sell it. Obvious hyperbole but in my opinion, not far off of reality.
When I surfaced I ended up buying large know brands of simple products. I suspected these larger companies controlled more of the chain either through ownership or economic power resulting in consistent cost effective stuff. And to hell with ceramic snake oil. Venom ain't worth the squeeze. (blasphemy) 3D, Meguiars, and P&S, highlight my potions. I learned in this thread that Griot's fits that bill now! That's very cool because they are some of the best people to talk to at SEMA. I go on a visitor pass and get universally ignored by most others. I get it, I've been a trade show booth bitch before and it is a long week no matter what industry you are in.
I do shamefully admit that I love CG Honeydew Snow Foam. Some sort of lizard brain smell thing probably.
You can keep your (other) Gucci stuff as they are most likely the same base product as all the others, cost too much, and won't do any better job. All these Utoobers can shill for whomever they choose. I agree they should be more transparent but I am cynical enough to know they are ALL in someone's pocket. That info is liberating. I also can't imagine a hard working detailer trying to eek out a profit wasting money on this junk.
I'll post again in a few years. Thanks for entertaining me all day.
(emojis for effect)
ev
*In my limited trials of the major rinseless wash, it might actually be Unicorn tears. Stuff is wicked versatile.
This thread has been awesome! I read it all in three sittings today. Plenty of comic relief, trolling, and whole host of, "I freaking knew it!" moments. A fellow Coloradan or two also. Hard to admit that these days but I have hope of a return to sanity.
I got into detailing in 2014 when I got my first cool car. A Chevy SS! GM's Holden Commodore from our Aussie friends adapted to the US market. As I studied up on how best to preserve my new baby, I quickly smelled enormous amounts horse excrement.
Prior to all that, car soaps and wax came from Wally World or the parts house. If I was out of soap I headed to the kitchen. Frequent touchless or wand type car washes (aka alkali bath) but never a swirl-o-matic except in extreme emergencies. Turtle Wax a time or two a year and call it good. You know what, my vehicles looked pretty good considering. Sure the haziness was there but what did I know? Cleaner waxes helped some. I cleaned truck and boat interiors with my own proprietary process. Just enough Tide in a bucket to break up the surface tension of the water but not foam up. Wet terry cloth wipe down and a dry one to follow. Never, ever, applied any dressings. (still won't to this day) Plastics always looked great!
And now days I'm supposed to use $2 an ounce Unicorntear* Interior cleaner and $50 a can Angelpoop car wax or my truck will melt into a pile of rust and shattered expectations! Then I noticed something. The Unicorntear came in the same exact spray bottle as $.50 an ounce Mulepee! And to my cynical glee, down the rabbit hole I went. I learn't that 3M, BASF, Dow, etc., make the chemicals, unidentified chemistry labs cook the stuff, and the blenders mix it all up, make it smell good, and sell it. Obvious hyperbole but in my opinion, not far off of reality.
When I surfaced I ended up buying large know brands of simple products. I suspected these larger companies controlled more of the chain either through ownership or economic power resulting in consistent cost effective stuff. And to hell with ceramic snake oil. Venom ain't worth the squeeze. (blasphemy) 3D, Meguiars, and P&S, highlight my potions. I learned in this thread that Griot's fits that bill now! That's very cool because they are some of the best people to talk to at SEMA. I go on a visitor pass and get universally ignored by most others. I get it, I've been a trade show booth bitch before and it is a long week no matter what industry you are in.
I do shamefully admit that I love CG Honeydew Snow Foam. Some sort of lizard brain smell thing probably.
You can keep your (other) Gucci stuff as they are most likely the same base product as all the others, cost too much, and won't do any better job. All these Utoobers can shill for whomever they choose. I agree they should be more transparent but I am cynical enough to know they are ALL in someone's pocket. That info is liberating. I also can't imagine a hard working detailer trying to eek out a profit wasting money on this junk.
I'll post again in a few years. Thanks for entertaining me all day.
(emojis for effect)ev
*In my limited trials of the major rinseless wash, it might actually be Unicorn tears. Stuff is wicked versatile.