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I haven't tried either of those Mnz polishes but I can assure you they are finer than OP. Al recommended me to get the micro polish, not the final polish, that it will up the gloss a notch. I gotta ask though, you know that these cannot be used outside in the sun right? That's the biggest...

Haha not unless you own a rotary and need to do vehicles that are trashed beyond belief. If PO 83Q SIP, a yellow/org pad, and a pc at speed 6, the car has no hope. hehe

I believe Micro Polish PO87MC. Menzerna Micro Polish PO 87MC Free Bonus!

So what do you use if/when 106FF doesn't take out all the deeper marring? Or do you have luck with it on even bad finishes?

Yeah Lazer, I do agree, but other than 106FF's ability to multitask, the following list in order from great to least cut should clear things up a bit. Powergloss S34A Super Intensive Polish PO 83Q Intensive Polish PO 91E Final Polish PO 85U Micro Polish PO 87MC And the 106FF I've heard cuts...

Cheapest way to get the "Menzerna look" is the super IP PO 83Q and the Micro polish PO 87MC. $60 bucks less 15% and you're good to go. The regualr intensive polish is nice as well, but the super IP isn't as strong as the power gloss, so I'd think having a somewhat strong polish like it would be...

Sounds like a great way to do them, as well as a nice time saver.

Coo, that's what I figured would work. Nice job.

So I get that the soaking foam/soap releases the dirt, but isn't it true that you need the high pressure of the PW to get it all off? I'm assuming that a reg foam gun, soaked 5 min, with even a fireman's hose nozzle from a regular hose wouldn't see those results. Do you think that's correct...

Ricky, do you use the 106FF for heavier defect removal with a polishing or light cutting pad? Or do you just use it as a finishing polish? Also, the PO 87 isn't the FP2, it's the micro polish, I've heard one step better finishing than the FP2.

Will that have the same problem like Dan mentioned with the woolite where the soap is difficult to get out of the seats? I just feel like the seats will be so bad that the entire thing should be shampooed. I just don't want to soak the seats.

cool, glad you got it ok!

looks good to me

Thanks Dan, I actually have 303 spot remover, which should work as well as Folex on seats. It's done wonders on my floor mat jobs.

Ok, so to prempt this, I do know how to clean floor mats, etc. I have 303 spot remover and woolite both full strength and 8:1 in a sprayer. My concern is that I have a really bad Saturn sedan to do tomorrow that has been a pet shelter vehicle and is really spotted up and smelly. I'm...

Speed 5, I wipe off after each panel because the stuff is so easy to use and wiping off is a piece of cake. You can OS right away as well.

Thanks I'll have to order some up soon and see how they work for me. In your opinion, doing a pretty marred car I should need the SIP right? As in, even a somewhat aggressive pad and 106FF probably won't take the bad marring out?

Also, the more I've considered, the more I *think* one could get that Menzerna finish without the 106FF, thus saving a bunch of money. Couldn't one just use the Super IP PO 83Q and follow with the Micro Polish PO 87MC? If I understand correctly, the 106FF is just a step above the PO 87MC...

Thanks for the info Al, I gotta wonder why the PO 83Q isn't priced in line with their other nano polish, 106 FF? (Not that I'm complaining) :)

I'm trying to get straight what the "common" items that Menzerna offered over here via CMA were. I know they are called Intensive Polish and Final Polish 2, but with the real Men Germany labeling, I'm confused. From what I've read, the 106 FF and the PO 87MC are the 2 ceramiclear polishes...