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  1. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    Just type "Meguiar's gold class rich leather cleaner conditioner ruined" (without quotation marks) and hit the search button. That should suffice. P.S. Trying to make the character of person who posts his opinion a subject of this thread, as opposed to a product and its' effects that are being...
  2. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    I posted this earlier. In case you didn't see I re-post it now and you are welcome to follow the search trail and read what others say about 'thrilling' effects of this product on their brand new leather seats. Don't buy my words, just do your own search.
  3. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    Selectchoice, You can call it anything you want but PR and Marketing are high paying industries and real people work there, not some imaginary creatures born out of tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists' skull. You may Google "Marketing 101" to start with, but as you learn more and more...
  4. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    Nicholas, This is what the plastic container has written on it (no kidding): Wipes, Cleans, conditions & protects in one easy step. Non-greasy , non-whitening formula. The CAUTION is: MAY CAUSE EYE IRRITATION Nothing about Armorall looks and silicone tire shiner effects.... =/
  5. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    Anyone can go on Google, type "Meguiar's gold class rich leather cleaner conditioner ruined" (without quotation marks) and hit the search button. Read in your spare time and see what others consumers write about this product. P.S. You can't make it into another variation of "incompetent user...
  6. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    Thank you bootsrap. That's EXACTLY what it is: an Armorall for the leather seats ! Only it deceitfully carries the name of 'Meguiar's', with 'Gold Class" next to it (Now I know what it stands for).
  7. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    No, I don't think my observation is "harsh" in any shape, form or appearance. It is not "harsh" to state what the observed effect of this product on brand new leather was. And it is a lot better to state it as is than to be dishonest and say "oh, that was just fine". As far as I am concerned...
  8. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    Dear hamlyn, With all due respect, but why are you being so judgmental and allege things that you can't know about? How do you know that I did not use the product "correctly"? Did you even read my posts? Your tone is so defensive that it sounds as if someone from Meguiar's PR department got...
  9. carenthusiast

    Can clay barring cause scratches on a new car?

    I am not sure they get reimbursements for car prep (though they may, I don't know). I would think their reimbursements are there aside from what they charge clients extra (college grad incentives, manufacturer rebates and etc, all those come direct from manufacturer to dealer under specific...
  10. carenthusiast

    Can clay barring cause scratches on a new car?

    Romans, My experience with dealers is personal, meaning I speak from my personal encounters and, as you can imagine, I did not have enough time to buy too many cars in my life so far. It's still under a dozen (though I get a new car every 2-3 years). And on at least two occasions I...
  11. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    Thank you Nicholas for well wishes :) I am already chilled about the whole thing since I get the feeling that there is no permanent damage done (if you read reviews of many people online you will get a sense that you must order new set of leather seats to fix it). I will try Pinnacle products...
  12. carenthusiast

    Can clay barring cause scratches on a new car?

    It may not be the State Law, it might be the manufacturer, but dealers MUST remove the adhesives (including the window sticker) from the car before delivering it to you. Most franchise owners will not risk getting in trouble with the franchisor (let alone State) over this and will insist that...
  13. carenthusiast

    Can clay barring cause scratches on a new car?

    Romans, You are actually right about railroad dust in transportation, that could be the case, but most of the cars are plastered by plastic cover that is removed by the dealer before the delivery or when they put it on their lot. Thus, most cars come 100% contamination protected (the top...
  14. carenthusiast

    Can clay barring cause scratches on a new car?

    This is an old thread and OP probably had his answer already, but my first thought was "why clay a brand new truck"? Usually you clay your car if the contaminants have penetrated your paint/clear coat and you have that rough feelings when you touch the surface of it after a good bucket wash...
  15. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    Calendyr, I respect your opinion and thank you for your advise, but I have to disagree with you on some of the points you made. First, since these are wipes that are moisturized in factory (and all you do really is wipe them on your leather seats), overuse of the product is not such a big...
  16. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    Everyone, thank you for your suggestions and advise! Actually, two days later the extreme shine that I had the first day had faded a bit. In fact Lexol has helped to reduce the Armor-all effect of Meguair's wipes and the seating and reclining areas look almost like normal. I still have an...
  17. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    There are different kinds of damages. To me it is ruined and seriously damaged if brand new leather looks like someone had greased it with Armorall and if I can't get this shine off no matter what I try. This is not the look of a new leather. This is how 15-20 years old, cracked up leather seats...
  18. carenthusiast

    Please help! Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather cleaner-conditioner ruined brand new seats !

    At first I didn't panic and didn't assume that there was any serious damage. I just noticed that something is wrong about the looks of the leather: it shines too much and it looks like it's 15 years old, like used cars' shiny leather seats, kind you may see in used car dealers' lot. Then I...
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