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sounds like its going to be the car wash. And I do shake the hell out of the bottle. I started to think i was getting it too thin. I'll wash the car next time by hand and let it set for at least 20 minutes next time. Thanks for your help.

Normally all i do is hand wash and clay bar then apply one coat of 845 on one side of the car and one coat of BF on the other. BF wins each time Now i know this is a sin, but I only have time to hand wash when I'm going to wax. So all other times I wash my car I take it to the touch free wash...

I've been having trouble with 845 since I started using it. I've tested it against other sealants and it always loses. Water seems to stop running off the car and create nice beads after a couple washes. Seems like everyone loves this product and speaks highly of the durability. I only apply by...

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I top it with 845. You get the look of BL with the Protection of 845. Perfect combo

I believe Opti-Clay can start selling in the US again in 2013. May be wrong

How long do you wait before you spray?

I'm acutally looking to trade my Klasse AIO. Just wondering if your interested. Stuff works great but I just want to toy around with other products.

welcome, and..........C-A-T-S...CATS CATS CATS!!!!!!!

Products I have for trade: Klasse AIO Duragloss 101 XMT 360 Spray Wax Tar X 3 oz Fuzion Duragloss Tire dressing Wish List: 845 Blacklight BFWD Iron X BF Crystal Seal Diablo Wheel Gel

anyone used it over blacklight? I think I'm gonna give this a try. The blacklight will give it a great look while the 845 gives it durability

Anyone have some blacklight? I would actually just like to sample some for a blackfire wet diamond comparison. thanks

When u say blackfire sealant ur meaning bfwd. Right?

I not sure, but I am sure there are other products that work the same, i just happened to received me ceriglass today and it worked to perfection.

Just get a bottle ceriglass. Stuff is awesome. Ill try to put some pics up later.:xyxthumbs::xyxthumbs::xyxthumbs:

No ur not Im the MAN

Did hidef get banned? Where did his posts go?

So this replaces clay bar?

Ive only really tried dg tire and matt spray but is there a spray out there that rivals gels? Thanks

"another box?" and then smiles while shaking her head. Of course thats not a good smile. Thats what I get when I order something from here. haha