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Looks like you have the new formula Opti-Clean. I think this is the first revision to the original so there aren't any bottles with "new formula" stickers floating around from a previous revision. If that makes sense. Have you used the previous version? I think the new one is significantly...

After they were busted by the federal government. How magnanimous of them. Nothing on this scale has happened before. Since 2000 there have only been two instances of vehicles being relabeled do to an EPA audit. And in each case it only involved a single model. Hyundai, Kia Overstated Fuel...

This has nothing to do with real world mileage. These cars could not meet their EPA ratings when submitted to an EPA test. If they used tweaked cars then they took a chance that the EPA wouldn't conduct an audit. Just like the chance any of us would take with the IRS if we "tweaked" our tax...

Does the label list a QD dilution?

It is not a surprise that a car doesn't match it's EPA rating in real world driving. Conditions and driving habits are completely different. In Hyundai's case, the cars couldn't get their EPA rating in the EPA test. Could be a mistake, could be fraud, or maybe performance varies that much from...

I don't think this replaces the old B2B. This looks more like a tire cleaner. Last year they introduced a B2B tire shine spray and kept the original.

Honda did. But the plaintiff lost on appeal. Also this case is quite a bit different. The claim in the lawsuit was that the Civic Hybrid didn't get the EPA estimate in real world driving, which we all know can vary depending on how the car is driven. In the case with Hyundai/Kia, the EPA...

I think that it refers to the clear plastic over the instrument cluster. I have an Armada and use it on the hard colored plastic that is all over the cabin.

Anything you can share?

Actually Adam's has been very forthcoming about products that cannot be sourced from a US manufacturer. In fact I know of at least one product they dropped because the manufacturer moved production out of the US.

There is already a new formula version on the product page. Claim is better cleaning and more gloss. I just ordered some - couldn't resist free shipping.:props:

Limbering up, just in case I need to bend over and kiss my butt goodbye.

Mothers CG Pure Carnauba paste comes in a tin that's big enough to get a 5.5" pad in.

Over on the Optimum forum Chris mentioned "a new spin on a favorite".

I agree. CG even lists it under glazes on their website. Although it can be hard to see through all the smoke from the hyperbolic grenades they launch.:bolt:

I think they call the line California Gold.

Okay fine, how about the surface area of the pad that is in contact with the material being polished. That better? Yes you are correct about calculating the total surface area of a pad. But you didn't offer any insight as to how that may or may not be relevant to the discussion at hand. Seems...

The newer kits have 2 clay bars & no wax. There was some discussion about it on Waxforum on Mothers website. Seems the idea was that anyone buying clay, already has wax or wants to pick out their own. In fact there was a thread over there dedicated to what people did with their wax sample.

Am I the only one who didn't know what a Woobie blanket was? Hmmm... maybe not, spell check doesn't like it. Might give these a try. I use a soft edgeless from another vendor, but it looks like the WooWooWoobie has a longer nap.

Don't get too smug. It never takes 'em very long to find something new to :bash: us about. Which polish and pad did you use for the glass shower doors?