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WTF do you care for..Did he steal your business?
130 hour restoration detail - Bentley GT (Auto Concierge & Immaculate Reflections)
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Mazda.Mark
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I think this has run its course. Give them your dues and call it a day. GREAT JOB! We all benefit from seeing your work!
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Great turn around!
I dont think it matters if he did charge the customer $6,000.00! Its still cheaper than a new paint job! Thats not done at Maaco!
GREAT WORK!!!!!! :buffing:
I dont think it matters if he did charge the customer $6,000.00! Its still cheaper than a new paint job! Thats not done at Maaco!
GREAT WORK!!!!!! :buffing:
gofast908z
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You're free to call BS, but you are FULL of BS if you do.
I'm not in the business of embellishing to impress.:bat:
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Are you just in here to harass? Have you done a black Bentley to 100% correction? Kindly GTFO and stop trolling my thread.
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Is this seriously what this thread is turning into? I gave over 100 pics of documentation and thats not enough? EVERY surface of this car was touched. Engine (8+ hrs), Grill (4+hrs), Wheels (6+ hrs)....etc
Client wanted the finest work, refined to the nth degree. Thats what he got and he was very happy.
How many of you have done a 100% correction on a black Bentley?
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I believe you have given the Todd Helmes and the Dave Saunders of the world something to aspire to. In most professions (including this one, I thought) one measure of skill is the abilility to execute quickly, meaning if two detailers got the same result performing the same task, the one who completed it more quickly would be considered the more skillful. Apparently I was mistaken, thanks for correcting my misconception, I will try to remember going forward that it takes 112- hrs to correct a Bentley.
It was a very nice job that you and Bob did, it looks wonderful, the owner entrusted it to the right team!
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That is the question and one thing I always post about work like this is just as important as restoring the car is educating the customer on how to take care of it or have him let you take care of it so it doesn't just end up this way again.
Very nice write-up and excellent photography work, like others said it's also nice to share the products, pads and tools used so others can follow in your footsteps. I do this in all my write-ups.
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To everyone else reading this thread, famileraize yourself with the forum rules and when you see someone breaking a rule instead of engaging them simplyl report them.
And in case anyone doesn't know how to use the Report Button, here's an article on it...
What to do when you see a problem on the forum
ANYTIME you see someone causing a problem,
don't interact with them on the forum
Instead, click on the Report Post button
That way a record is created and sent to all Moderators and Administrators and you stay out of the fray.
Thank you...
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And in case anyone doesn't know how to use the Report Button, here's an article on it...
What to do when you see a problem on the forum
ANYTIME you see someone causing a problem,
don't interact with them on the forum
Instead, click on the Report Post button
That way a record is created and sent to all Moderators and Administrators and you stay out of the fray.
Thank you...
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The sarcasm is in poor taste. You KNOW every car is different. Whats your issue?
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Mike, as this was a tag team detail I'm not at liberty to share the product usage on this car. That is Bob's choice to share it or not and I will be respectful of that.
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My apologies if I came off "arrogant" or "elitist" in my replies, upon re-examining it I see it may have come off that way. That was not my intent.
Thank you all for the kind words. This job was a huge undertaking and my thanks to Bob for having me help him on his client's new ride.
Thank you all for the kind words. This job was a huge undertaking and my thanks to Bob for having me help him on his client's new ride.
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I was rather astounded and confused when I saw Bob post on Autopia.org that Jeff would no longer be working with him on any future projects. At the time, I hadn't seen the thread on this forum.
Now, I think I may understand a bit better what's going on.
It's amazing to me the attitudes that so many members here seem to have toward professionals who provide the highest-end levels of detailing to discerning clientele. These guys are far from the first to post a job that took a large number of man-hours to complete, and yet I've never seen a negative response of this magnitude ever before.
If you take the time to really examine the pictures of the work that was done, you should be able to notice that pretty much every single surface on the vehicle was given attention in one way or another. It's a plain and simple fact of the matter that attention to detail takes time.
Polishing every single obscure portion of a door jamb cannot be done via machine, and in some cases not even with traditional pads or MF towels. Same with dressing certain rubber/vinyl/plastic parts, thoroughly cleaning and restoring suspension and brake components, etc. As best I can tell, all of that was done in this case.
Is a high hourly rate a shock to the system? Sure it is. However when you consider the nature of the work and the physical demands of spending that much time massaging a vehicle to the pinnacle of perfection AND the fact that it takes a certain type of person to do that sort of work (not everyone is equipped to dedicate themselves to the task) it is justifiable when your market supports it. That's how business works; find your competitive advantage or the "value" in your goods or services, and charge accordingly for the exclusivity you offer.
Now, granted, not too many people out there are interested in or willing to spend that much having a vehicle worked on to the extent of what this job appears to have encompassed, and perhaps that's where the source of the angst is coming from (such jobs are very rare and uncommon), but as automotive, car care, and detailing enthusiasts I would certainly think we can all recognize and appreciate what was done here. Perhaps the issue is more jealousy or envy than actual disdain toward Jeff for posting his work?
Anyway, I don't tend to post here these days, but after seeing this nightmare I felt compelled to say something. There are a multitude of approaches to detailing, and a multitude of definitions of "perfect." That should be celebrated, not attacked.
Now, I think I may understand a bit better what's going on.
It's amazing to me the attitudes that so many members here seem to have toward professionals who provide the highest-end levels of detailing to discerning clientele. These guys are far from the first to post a job that took a large number of man-hours to complete, and yet I've never seen a negative response of this magnitude ever before.
If you take the time to really examine the pictures of the work that was done, you should be able to notice that pretty much every single surface on the vehicle was given attention in one way or another. It's a plain and simple fact of the matter that attention to detail takes time.
Polishing every single obscure portion of a door jamb cannot be done via machine, and in some cases not even with traditional pads or MF towels. Same with dressing certain rubber/vinyl/plastic parts, thoroughly cleaning and restoring suspension and brake components, etc. As best I can tell, all of that was done in this case.
Is a high hourly rate a shock to the system? Sure it is. However when you consider the nature of the work and the physical demands of spending that much time massaging a vehicle to the pinnacle of perfection AND the fact that it takes a certain type of person to do that sort of work (not everyone is equipped to dedicate themselves to the task) it is justifiable when your market supports it. That's how business works; find your competitive advantage or the "value" in your goods or services, and charge accordingly for the exclusivity you offer.
Now, granted, not too many people out there are interested in or willing to spend that much having a vehicle worked on to the extent of what this job appears to have encompassed, and perhaps that's where the source of the angst is coming from (such jobs are very rare and uncommon), but as automotive, car care, and detailing enthusiasts I would certainly think we can all recognize and appreciate what was done here. Perhaps the issue is more jealousy or envy than actual disdain toward Jeff for posting his work?
Anyway, I don't tend to post here these days, but after seeing this nightmare I felt compelled to say something. There are a multitude of approaches to detailing, and a multitude of definitions of "perfect." That should be celebrated, not attacked.
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^^ Well said Mr Hahn!
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Whomever owned the car previously looked at the car as a way to get around apparently and that's it! I'll just never understand why someone with the means to buy a car like that doesn't have it detailed twice a year to keep it looking at the very least, decent! Not only that but buying a black car, what are they thinking (not thinking, obviously!) In the early pics it was just disgusting to see the amount of swirls in the paint, those are reserved for people driving around mid 90's Honda Civics that truely are just for getting from point A to B.
Now as far as the 130 hour restoration it took to get it like that, your team performed a miracle thereIm the MAN Just curious, how much did a detail to that level cost the guy?
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Impressive guys. Great job at documenting the process to show the progression.
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