2003 10th anniversary Cobra Terminator paint correction

tuscarora dave

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Hi all,

This 2003 Ford 10thAnniversary, Cobra Terminator is something that has been in the planning stages for quite some time now. The owner of this car sent me an email or a PM on this forum (can’t remember which) back in the winter asking for some insight into glazing and polishing black paint. We bantered back and forth for quite some time about it and I encouraged him to get a polisher and do the work himself. I could tell by the way he wrote in his emails that he really wanted to give it a shot but wasn’t really in a position to spend the money on the equipment. We continued to talk about it a few times a week, sometimes a few times a day. The owner (Daren) asked if he was becoming annoying with all of the emails. I assured him that he wasn’t and that I eat, sleep, live and breathe paint correction.

After quite some time of this went by and a lot of talk about products and paint correction, I could tell that Daren was really getting frustrated about not being able to do the work himself and I could clearly see that he was concerned about damaging the paint on his car by trying. In conversation (emails) it came out that he was a master carpenter and then my father got sick with a life changing circulation problem where an amputation was imminent. Daren and I talked about the carpentry end of building wheelchair ramps and ended up in a bartering deal. I would perfect the paint on his Cobra to the best of my ability, and I would help him build a wheelchair ramp for my father when we get the funding for the project.

We tried on a few occasions to come together on a date to do the work on his Cobra but Mother Nature had other ideas. Each time we’d set a date for Daren to drive up here from Wilmington Delaware, it would end up raining the day that we’d planned to do the work. Daren’s hood has functional fresh air vents and the car has only been caught in the rain less than a handful of times in its life. Looking at the engine bay as he arrived at my shop, it’s no wonder he doesn’t want rain getting on it, plus the car is always covered when not being driven or showed, so it never even see’s a traditional wash, waterless wash only.

We finally set a date that looked good weather wise and made plans to get it to my shop. About a day after we set the date, I had a young man sent me an email. He said he had just graduated from the auto body course at a local Vo-Tech school and wanted to learn about detailing and paint correction. I suggested he come and observe while I did the paint correction on Daren’s Cobra Terminator. He did come to the shop just as Daren and I were getting started. I asked the young man (Austin) if he’d be so kind as to man my little point and shoot camera, taking one with flash and one without flash and told him the more shots I have to look through at the end of the project the better the chance I’d have of putting a decent thread together. Austin took many photos. Midway through the day Josh, my friend and sometimes helper at the shop came to hang out with us and Austin left for the day. Josh took some photos and shot a little video of my technique with the Microfiber discs on the Harbor Freight Tools DA polisher.

The car was freshly clayed, glazed and waxed so surprisingly enough, it passed the baggy test despite the trip from out of state. I stripped the wax and glaze from a few areas of the car to see what general condition I was working with using 91% IPA then did a test section to see if I was dealing with a softer clear or typical medium hard Ford clear. It’s the typical Ford hardness and has had no repaints so I ran with the process that worked in my test section. It would be M-105 on 5” MF discs using the HF DA polisher with its vented 3M 5” backing plate, then M-205 on a Pro Car Beauty 6” white foam finishing pad using the Flex 3401. Daren and Austin worked together to tape off the convertible top so it wouldn’t get all messed up with dust or worse yet, polish splatter. With exception to a couple of danger areas being taped to protect Daren’s car from the backing plate rub, the roof was the only thing taped off.

Daren ran around my shop most of the day finding stuff to do while I worked on his car. He cleaned my refrigerator and microwave ovens off, picked up rubbish from around the shop and organized a few things. One thing that I really could get used to was Daren coming up behind me and using a MF towel to wipe the sweat off of my forehead while I polished away. He asked me if it was too weird feeling after a few times and said he didn’t want to see me sweating period or dripping sweat on the work. I told him “heck no, I could get used to that.” It totally showed Daren’s gratitude for what was being done to his car. He called a few buddies throughout the day and I could hear him saying “Man, you’re not going to believe it when you see it!” “It looks incredible!” I knew he was really stoked about it. It’s become just another day at the office for me, but I still have the passion and was glad to see him so excited about his pride and joy.

As I pretty much knew would happen, we’d finish up after dark and I wouldn’t be able to see the results first hand under the sun or get the money shots and sun reflection photos. Daren says he’s going to get money shots back home after he applies a coat of Poorboy’s Black Hole, EXP sealant and Natty’s Blue Paste wax. Hopefully he’ll follow through and I’ll paste them to this thread when he sends them.



The car as it came in, Daren and Austin taped off the convertible top.



The Snake



The Snake’s Bite



Top all taped off



The test section


Moving along



Seeing a difference




Some tricky angles on this car



The scene from the road



Looking good inside the shop



Got protection?



OH God, please don’t let me hit the plastic



A better image of the actual before condition



The amount of product I use to prime a new 5” MF pad



Initial prime complete, look no dots



More protection



Back to work



Spinning the MF pad clean with compressed air, this is a must in a production setting as it cools the pad down as well as cleans and fluffs it



Adding a few drops of M-105



I spread it around like butter on toast

Ford Cobra Terminator Paint correction technique - YouTube



A video of my technique for those of you having problems with too much product, product remaining like concrete (there shouldn’t be any) and disks delaminating. You see no product trailing behind the pad in the video. Rest assured that there are plenty of good abrasives working against the paint and the cutting is at its most efficient there. All the “run it just until it flashes” recommendations are the reason people have so much trouble with M-105. Dare to go outside of the box on this.
 


More tricky angles




Rounding 3rd base. Finish polishing with M-205 and Flex with Pro Car Beauty 6” white foam finishing pad



Seeing some clarity



Human eyes can’t see what the camera flash is showing here, I think it’s the polishing oils from the M-205



Daren really approved of the finish.




A few shots from the top of the steps



I’m not too sure how I feel about this, Daren uses Black Hole and Natty’s Blue paste wax about twice a week so I don’t really think it’s much of a big deal as the car usually only gets a little dusty and is QD’d a lot. This car never gets water washed and doesn’t see rain either.



Daren walking around the car tripping out about how fine the finish looks. I was really glad to see him so happy.





The reflections are pretty crisp. The car took 12 hours total to cut and finish polish. We had only one day to get the work done here at my shop and Daren wanted the time spent on correction so he was driving it home, getting it covered for the night then waxing it today after his usual coat of Black Hole followed by a coat of EXP.

Being dark when we finished up for the day as I already stated, I really couldn’t get the money shot or the sun reflection photos so once Daren shoots them I’ll post the photos he sends me when I get them.

Here’s the review Daren wrote on Facebook, I’d say he’s happy.
Thanks for looking, TD

Huge thanks to Dave David Reigle of Tuscarora Dave's Mobile Auto Detailing , Tuscarora Dave's Mobile Auto Detailing I left here at 5 am for my 2+ hour ride to Harrisburg PA yesterday . Dave is amazing and so very talented with a Machine Not only did he treat my car like is was a Million dollar Benz , he made the experience so much fun , as it should be but we all know when someone else is working on your Car , they rarely care as much as you do , He honestly does . My 11 year old Black Paint was in good condition before he started. actually 2 new Customers came in to inquire and thought he had just finished , when in fact he didn't touch it yet. My point is he had his work cut out for him, not only did he meet my overly high expectations he exceeded them by miles and miles. It now has not ONE swirl, marring or spider web . What he accomplished in 12 hours is nothing short of incredible .It has zero Wax /Polish on it at the moment yet it look like a deep wet puddle of Black .. Pictures to come soon. Thank You so much Dave . Many people will tell you "I'll treat it likes it's mine " fewer actually follow through , anyone who knows me even a little knows the standards I set for my paint , too high and virtually unobtainable , that is until I met Dave and he invited me up . I'm extremely lucky that Dave needs some minor things built, that he was willing to barter. Otherwise I wouldn't have had what would no doubt be 600+ $ Paint Correction. Again, thanks Dave, thanks for the compliments, thanks for the new friendship , thanks for showing my Cobra's paint the love that I do. I’m looking forward to returning the favor, hopefully sooner than later.
 
You perform so many good deeds for others. I am happy to call you my friend

Very nice job Dave !!! :props:
 
Great thread buddy :props:
Excellent results as always.
Interesting to see your use of the HF DA over the Flex for cutting.
Smart move with the vented bp on the DA.

I love it when the customer gets geeked up before the end of the project Im the MAN
 
Thanks guys!! It really was a great car to work on. He offered to let me drive it but I declined. I would have wanted to really get on it and that's one thing I won't do to a customer's car, not to mention I don't need to be losing my license or worse yet crash the thing. I like horse power a lot!!
 
I like the part about getting the sweat wiped off your forehead

:)
 
Looks really good! I've got an 04 Redfire one so seeing all the customizations and cleanliness of the engine compartment you can tell he cares about the car.

I'm surprised he's going to drive it home without protection though. I don't know how unprotected paint is with removing bug guts mar free.
 
Looks really good! I've got an 04 Redfire one so seeing all the customizations and cleanliness of the engine compartment you can tell he cares about the car.

I'm surprised he's going to drive it home without protection though. I don't know how unprotected paint is with removing bug guts mar free.
That's why we left all the polishing oils from the M-205 on the paint instead of doing an IPA wipedown, in hopes of any bugs releasing in the morning. He said he got it waxed and it's perfect looking. Going right now to check out his photos and try to load them up to this thread.
 




Here are a few photos that he took back home. I asked him to get me a few high noon sun shots, well... because you know how we are.
 
I like the part about getting the sweat wiped off your forehead

:)

I know right, I wish I had a monkey in a box for that. Jump out of the box real quick, wipe the sweat off and scurry off to his box again.Im the MAN
 
awesome work as usual Dave. That car looks sharp!

Hope to see you soon pal, hope all is well
 
Incredible Dave! Glad to see this posted. I know we were talking about this very detail a few weeks ago.

The genius at work!
 
Excellent turnaround!

awesome work as usual Dave. That car looks sharp!

Hope to see you soon pal, hope all is well

Incredible Dave! Glad to see this posted. I know we were talking about this very detail a few weeks ago.

The genius at work!
Thanks guys.

It was a fairly easy car to do in that it was in pretty good shape to begin with. There were some scratches in the paint that were on the deeper side, nothing too crazy so most of them were leveled out. There were a few however that I felt were deep enough that they weren't worth trying to fully level out so I worked them with the intention of just rounding off the edges to make them less visible to nearly invisible.

This car goes to a lot of cruise ins and Daren belongs to a car club that's all black Mustangs so a lot of car guys will be inspecting the finish, but I doubt they'll have the eye to see the RIDS that I speak of. Sounds like a few of his car club comrades already want theirs done too. :buffing:

It may have been fairly easy to correct but black is always a time consuming challenge.
 
Hi all,





More protection


I have this exact condition on my rear spoiler. I never tape it up......

I WILL now! Now that I see it, it really makes sense. HMM. I wonder where else I

might be missing? Thanks for tip:dblthumb2: Nice work on the Snake too!





 
Hi all,





More protection


I have this exact condition on my rear spoiler. I never tape it up......

I WILL now! Now that I see it, it really makes sense. HMM. I wonder where else I

might be missing? Thanks for tip:dblthumb2: Nice work on the Snake too!





You're welcome Chet.

That particular piece of tape is more about the 3M backing plate that I use than anything else. I want to get the correction done as close to the spoiler as possible without packing a bunch of wet product between it and the trunk lid. To do this I work a very small amount of compound on the outermost part of the MF pad for an extended period of time.

Basically using the spout on the bottle of 105, I press it against the outermost edge of the face of the mf on the pad and squeeze the bottle lightly as I spin the pad by hand to apply a super light coating of product to the entire edge of the pad. I work that product against the paint (somewhere other than against the edge of the spoiler) until the product flashes. There are still a ton of useful abrasives attached to the fibers after the product flashes. It's at this point where I move the edge of the pad against the edge of the spoiler and work maybe a 6" area of the spoiler edge at a time, slowly going back and forth along the edge of the spoiler. The edge of my backing plate is in light contact with the edge of the spoiler when I do this.

Because I'm working it dry, all there is is dust in the crack when I'm done with the edge of the spoiler. This dust is easily removed with a quick shot of compressed air. On black cars, the last thing I want to do is work wet against any cracks, essentially packing white product into the crack that will have to be cleaned up later in the job. It gets dry and hard to remove, and trying to remove it typically causes marring. I avoid this scenario all together by using a developed technique. See, technique is so much more than just keeping the pad rotating.

If you look at how the 3M backing plate is designed, the edge of the pad extends slightly past the edge of the backing plate. This extension of the pad is what's working itself into the crack between the spoiler and the trunk lid, creating the corrected finish that (in the end) appears to have always been perfect. The problem is the squared off edge of the 3M backing plate, have a look...



You can also see the edge design of the backing plate in the video that Josh shot to show my compounding technique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQoFYA_fLi0

That squared off backing plate edge can do a number on spoiler edges, the underside of mirrors, tops of rear quarters when working rear side roof pillars etc.

The Tape is a cheap insurance policy against a trip to the body shop.

Thanks for the reply Chet, just want to share my thoughts on taping and technique.
 
You're welcome Chet.

That particular piece of tape is more about the 3M backing plate that I use than anything else. I want to get the correction done as close to the spoiler as possible without packing a bunch of wet product between it and the trunk lid. To do this I work a very small amount of compound on the outermost part of the MF pad for an extended period of time.

Basically using the spout on the bottle of 105, I press it against the outermost edge of the face of the mf on the pad and squeeze the bottle lightly as I spin the pad by hand to apply a super light coating of product to the entire edge of the pad. I work that product against the paint (somewhere other than against the edge of the spoiler) until the product flashes. There are still a ton of useful abrasives attached to the fibers after the product flashes. It's at this point where I move the edge of the pad against the edge of the spoiler and work maybe a 6" area of the spoiler edge at a time, slowly going back and forth along the edge of the spoiler. The edge of my backing plate is in light contact with the edge of the spoiler when I do this.

Because I'm working it dry, all there is is dust in the crack when I'm done with the edge of the spoiler. This dust is easily removed with a quick shot of compressed air. On black cars, the last thing I want to do is work wet against any cracks, essentially packing white product into the crack that will have to be cleaned up later in the job. It gets dry and hard to remove, and trying to remove it typically causes marring. I avoid this scenario all together by using a developed technique. See, technique is so much more than just keeping the pad rotating.

If you look at how the 3M backing plate is designed, the edge of the pad extends slightly past the edge of the backing plate. This extension of the pad is what's working itself into the crack between the spoiler and the trunk lid, creating the corrected finish that (in the end) appears to have always been perfect. The problem is the squared off edge of the 3M backing plate, have a look...



You can also see the edge design of the backing plate in the video that Josh shot to show my compounding technique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQoFYA_fLi0

That squared off backing plate edge can do a number on spoiler edges, the underside of mirrors, tops of rear quarters when working rear side roof pillars etc.

The Tape is a cheap insurance policy against a trip to the body shop.

Thanks for the reply Chet, just want to share my thoughts on taping and technique.


I think this is great information. This to me is flat out experience talking and I really appreciate you sharing it!
 
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