2010 Porsche Black - Suggestions

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I have a co-worker that has waited for me to come and bring back a bit of shine to his special car. All original paint and dealer installed PPF.

Low budget (of course) so I came up with this suggestion:

Paint
Polish: Blackfire One step
Wax: Blackfire BlackICE Hybrid Liquid Wax

PPF:
Polish Gyeon PPF RENEW
Protect Gyeon HALO

I have never used nor applied the BlackICE but picked up a bottle on the last super sale at AG. Car is garage kept and not a daily driver.
Other option is the Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Wax.

Anyone with experience on these products on a Black Porsche of this vintage?
 
I hope Sizzle is reading this...........

Scottie will know, I'm sure.
 
To be honest you can skip the HALO or the PPF renewal. You can buff the PPF with blackfire AIO. Just use a white polishing pad.
 
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Plan to do a lot of polishing with your small pad machine. Those Porsche curves can cause lots of pad stall with larger pads.
 
To be honest you can skip the HALO or the PPF renewal. You can buff the PPF with blackfire AIO. Just use a white polishing pad.

Plan to do a lot of polishing with your small pad machine. Those Porsche curves can cause lots of pad stall with larger pads.


Both of the above.

Paint should be on the soft side. BF AIO should do a very nice 'budget' job on that 911!
 
Scott agreed with me on a Porsche. I feel validated lol
Im the MAN
 
Plan to do a lot of polishing with your small pad machine. Those Porsche curves can cause lots of pad stall with larger pads.


I did one mostly with a 15mm machine. A forced rotation DA can also work quite well on them.

The Blackfire One Step & BlackICE Hybrid Liquid Wax is an awesome combo. The BlackICE Hybrid Liquid Wax is perfect for Texas summer heat. You will really enjoy using these two products on this Black Porsche.

Just used Blackice myself over the weekend

Scott agreed with me on a Porsche. I feel validated lol
Im the MAN

Scott gave me a starting point on a black Porsche some time ago! Saved me some time from test spots. (Did fewer because of his advice).
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Hey Bobby B.

Question on BlackICE application of a second layer, what is minimum wait time if doing a second coat?
 
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Well to update all that review and commented I ran into trouble on this one, my first and surely not the last 'oops' moment.

If you can zoom into the photo I discovered at the finishing point that the PPF film showed some type of either paint orange peel effect below the PPF or the adhesive was going bad. The owner took it in stride acknowledging that the previous person had purchased it as a 'Certified' used vehicle from local Porsche dealer. So did not think it had been repainted.

I took everyone's advice but still started with the Gyeon PPF Renew polish. Used a 3-in GG G8 running at speed-4 with the black pads (finishing). Did my test spot a 12x12 section on the hood PPF. Did my 6-section passes and commenced to wipe off the compound. To my surprise it was hazy and looked like nothing had been removed. In shock (or horror) I immediately tried another MF cloth and still the polishing looked horrid. I then remember something Mike Phillips had used on a soft plastic top and grabbed the Pinnacle Advance Finishing compound and tried it! Well something a bit better but could still see the pattern from the polishing. Reached now for my paint prep product, Carpro Eraser, to wipe and clean off the surface. It was better but still that fogginess remained. I put down a few dabs of the Blackfire One Step to see if it could clear up the mess. Nope, it was better but still off. While doing that I used the Eraser product to clean up the section and had the MF cloth sitting on the edge of the hood with my hand or fingers resting on the surface. Pulled up the cloth to revel my four finger prints showing up beneath the PPF. Now in a panic, I decided to stop and try the paint.

From that point on, Sizzle Chest and others had recommended using soft pads and just the BF One Step. Paint behaved very nice and my blood pressure started to come back down. Amazingly, my finger prints disappeared as well as the polishing marring. So I finished the job of a light polish and application of the BF BlackICE Hybrid Wax to the paint. I did apply the wax on the PPF but did that by hand.

Not shown in the picture, I used the DP Wheel and Glass coatings to finish up things as well as using some metal polish on the exhaust tips.

Final results looked great and the customer was pleased and paid me too! Whew! Cannot get the finish photo reduced so will try to post again with Tapatalk.

Has anyone ran into this with old PPF film and ways to resolve? Any experience to share? I have never seen this in all my 5-years using PPF on my autos before this older film.

Live and learn, sometimes under pressure.
 
Here are before and after
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Last on might show defects in PPF


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PPF can be tricky. A lot depends on the brand/etc. Heat is the #1 killer/issue with it IMO. Put too much on/into it and it will/can react poorly. Need to take it slow and low, and definitely least aggressive first.

Glad it worked out for you. Nice work, 911 came out looking good!
 
I treat PPF like the worst softest paint I've ever laid my hands on. It definitely depends on the quality of the PPF itself as well as how good the installer is. Just because it's a porsche doesn't mean the dealership didn't hire the cheapest guy they could find to do the PPF either.
 
Good to see things worked out for you.

All the best man


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