303 Graphine review!

Klasse Act said:
Hmmm

I'm not doubting your experience but trying to figure it out as much as possible without being there. How many sprays per panel? What kind of condition was the paint in as in surface contaminants

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Not counting the number of sprays to the pad, maybe 5 or six. Paint is like a babies bottom. Been detailing since '94 so I have experience if that might be if you're wondering. If I can use Optimum Opti-Coat without prior experience and get killer results on my first black car I should be able to use an OTC product.
Not complaining about 303, just this product for me works as one panel at a time.
 
bcgreen said:
Not counting the number of sprays to the pad, maybe 5 or six. Paint is like a babies bottom. Been detailing since '94 so I have experience if that might be if you're wondering. If I can use Optimum Opti-Coat without prior experience and get killer results on my first black car I should be able to use an OTC product.
Not complaining about 303, just this product for me works as one panel at a time.
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Ok this is what I was looking for The 303 graphene is pretty concentrated and you used WAY too much per panel. On your Macan the door for instance would need about 2 sprays, the fenders because of the clamshell, would only need 1. The hood would require no more than 4 sprays.

I hope you give the product another chance once the wax melts away from your paint in about a month but FWIW the 303 graphene will bond to other products though. If you check out Pan the Organizers You Tube channel you'll see him interview David Guiterez, lead chemist with 303 and there's some good info on the product

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Thanks, if I have time today, I will apply a thin coat, 2 spritz per door and rear quarter. Driver's side has not been exposed to 303 at this point. Will do the buff off to see if there is any difference.
 
bcgreen said:
Thanks, if I have time today, I will apply a thin coat, 2 spritz per door and rear quarter. Driver's side has not been exposed to 303 at this point. Will do the buff off to see if there is any difference.
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I expect a completely different result this time around

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bcgreen said:
Thanks, if I have time today, I will apply a thin coat, 2 spritz per door and rear quarter. Driver's side has not been exposed to 303 at this point. Will do the buff off to see if there is any difference.
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Mike in his review says if you do whole car will need a little elbow grease. If not wanting to put in the grease recommends panel at a time like you did. Let us know how it turned out


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I did the sides of my X2 today, sorry I didn’t take any pics. But it was pretty simple:
I sprayed a microfiber brick 4-5 times then sprayed each panel once, high and low
Then I spread it, and I could see where it was so it was , easy to tell whether it was a complete coat
I moved onto the next panel, a spray to recoat the applicator, then the 2 panel sprays.... after spreading a thin coat there, I wiped the previous panel.
Took me less than 40 minutes to do both sides. It is about the exact same procedure I used to use with blackfire crystal seal.
 
glen e said:
I did the sides of my X2 today, sorry I didn’t take any pics. But it was pretty simple:
I sprayed a microfiber brick 4-5 times then sprayed each panel once, high and low
Then I spread it, and I could see where it was so it was , easy to tell whether it was a complete coat
I moved onto the next panel, a spray to recoat the applicator, then the 2 panel sprays.... after spreading a thin coat there, I wiped the previous panel.
Took me less than 40 minutes to do both sides. It is about the exact same procedure I used to use with blackfire crystal seal.
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Thoughts on the finished product

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Good gloss, looks glassy... but every spray I use looks good at this point. This doesn’t look radically different. I’ve used blackfire crystal seal, reload, McKees 10 minute paint sealant,diluted Maguires ceramic spray, blackfire si02 spray and Carpro elixr. What I’m now looking for is the one that’s most durable, As my cleaning regimen due to a disability is a touchless car wash every couple weeks. I’m hoping that this graphene is a game changer.
 
glen e said:
Good gloss, looks glassy... but every spray I use looks good at this point. This doesn’t look radically different. I’ve used blackfire crystal seal, reload, McKees 10 minute paint sealant,diluted Maguires ceramic spray, blackfire si02 spray and Carpro elixr. What I’m now looking for is the one that’s most durable, As my cleaning regimen due to a disability is a touchless car wash every couple weeks. I’m hoping that this graphene is a game changer.
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This product will give you the durability your looking You listed Blackfire Crystal Seal and that takes me back to when I joined AG. I was using the Zaino equivalent but BCS was that much better and less expensive. I used it so much on my 2011 Honda CRZ that I swear it looked like the car was wrapped in cellophane

Now that your coated and plan on using the touch-frees please keep us updated here if you would, thanks

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Klasse Act said:
I expect a completely different result this time around

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Did the driver's door and passenger door with only 2 spritz per door. Also did the quarter panel before moving back to buff off and it indeed came off with not as much elbow grease. I am not sure if I had gone around the rest of the car, which would have taken me about an hour, if it would have taken more pressure to buff off because the product sat on the paint longer.
 
Well, we finally got some snow, about 4" of it 2 days ago. The roads were plowed and salted and a slight amount of melting now but a little more is on the way. The car is trashed right now and will be sitting in the parking lot the next couple days, not sure when the next wash will be, so here's the true test of this product...standing salt and dirt for days??? Weeks??? (let's not get carried away here, LOL)

Stay "tuned"

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Klasse Act said:
I should also let you guys know that last week I applied Griot's Garage Ceramic Speed Shine to this 303 graphene coated finish and I'm happy to announce that it played well, this is great to see. I also applied it in 40 degree temps too.
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How did the paint feel after the Griots Ceramic Speed Shine? Giving some thought to trying this on my wife's Yukon after the next maintenance wash
 
briarpatch said:
How did the paint feel after the Griots Ceramic Speed Shine? Giving some thought to trying this on my wife's Yukon after the next maintenance wash
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Sorry but I'm just not one to feel the paint while I'm working on it but I can also say I had NO issues applying it and wiping it off, so FWIW I say go for it. Because of the cool temps/shade I think it speaks volumes for this product as a topper

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Klasse Act said:
Sorry but I'm just not one to feel the paint while I'm working on it but I can also say I had NO issues applying it and wiping it off, so FWIW I say go for it. Because of the cool temps/shade I think it speaks volumes for this product as a topper

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I think I will....thank you
 
Super Bowl Sunday will be the 3 month point since I added that 2nd coat of 303 graphene. I've run the ES thru the carwash this past Mon and Tue and it looks incredible. I can report water beading on the side panels still because driving on wet roads confirmed this.

A new test is about to rear its head...ice boxAfter a foot of snow and lots of salt last weekend, tomorrow has rain turning to snow, then the bottom falls out and we'll be in the single digits this weekend and barely 10-12 for a high during the upcoming work week

Here it from 2-2-21...Groundhog Day
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Klasse Act said:
Super Bowl Sunday will be the 3 month point since I added that 2nd coat of 303 graphene. I've run the ES thru the carwash this past Mon and Tue and it looks incredible. I can report water beading on the side panels still because driving on wet roads confirmed this.
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Beading on the hood and roof too? How is it holding up at this 3 month mark?
 
Klasse Act said:
Super Bowl Sunday will be the 3 month point since I added that 2nd coat of 303 graphene. I've run the ES thru the carwash this past Mon and Tue and it looks incredible. I can report water beading on the side panels still because driving on wet roads confirmed this.

A new test is about to rear its head...ice boxAfter a foot of snow and lots of salt last weekend, tomorrow has rain turning to snow, then the bottom falls out and we'll be in the single digits this weekend and barely 10-12 for a high during the upcoming work week

Here it from 2-2-21...Groundhog Day
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I have yet to see pictures of beading of this product.... possible you could take some next wash?


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Coatingsarecrack said:
I have yet to see pictures of beading of this product.... possible you could take some next wash?


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Because it's kinda cold right now not sure when the next wash will be but it's going to be done through the drive-thru wash unless we get a mid-winter thaw. Maybe I can snap some pics of the side panels when the road is wet. Something to keep in mind is that it's going on 3 months old and it's been hit with rain and now snow/salt lately.

I know we've got a couple others in this thread that are using the 303 graphene, maybe they can post up some pics

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