3D HD Speed or Meguiars D151

[Zubair]

It has a + symbol right next to the name. It's on Cut and Polish.

So HD Speed is now old and HD Speed+ is the upgraded version. Wonder howcome AG doesn't sell the latest greatest stuff...

 

[fly07sti]

So HD Speed is now old and HD Speed+ is the upgraded version. Wonder howcome AG doesn't sell the latest greatest stuff...

No, as far as I know, Speed was reformulated but they didn't relabel the bottle.
The new versions of Cut and Polish have the + symbol next to the name.

 

[JeffM]

No, as far as I know, Speed was reformulated but they didn't relabel the bottle.
The new versions of Cut and Polish have the + symbol next to the name.

How long ago was the + added?

 

[fly07sti]

3-4 months ago ?

 

[Nav45]

That's what I have right now.

Option 1 - clay/cleaner wax
Option 2 - Medium polish/wax
Option 3 - Compound/polish/wax

I also have a light interior option that can be added to any service for an up charge.

I'm interested to know what do you mean by light interior option? Just very curious and would appreciate your reply. Thanks.

 

[Calendyr]

It takes me approximately 20 seconds to blow out, reload and get back to polishing.

I use a lot of M100 and M205, so wipe off is 5 seconds



That being said, when I have seen Detailers using an AIO, they are typically using arm speed that is way faster than they would even use during a polishing step and covering a lot more area than the standard 2' x 2'


Many will argue that you give the Customer what they are paying for. I suggest that this is an opportunity for Professional AGO Level Detailers to explain the tremendous difference in the end result that is possible for a little more money.


I don't do AIO jobs, but I have done a Hybrid Job, where the show panels, like hood and trunk are Compounded and Polished, but the verticals are only polished.


If I accept your assessment of the time required w two paint correction steps vs. AIO and that you are unable to convince any Customer that a 6 month sealant application is worth the extra money vs. a AIO that lasts 6 weeks...try 2 compounding passes, 2 polishing passes and machine applied Sealant vs. your AIO process.

Do half a hood with each of the two processes; time it and shoot some pictures of the results.


Looking forward to the results.


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Hum... well I don't blow out pads, I use a pad washer after each panel is done. Not sure compressed air is quite enough for cleaning a foam pad between panels but I have never tried it so it's hard to tell.

For an AIO I typically charge 3 hours of work. I hard a hard time seeing being able to Compound (even if it's just 2 passes). polish and seal in 3 hours. How long does this typically take you? It's not a bad idea, but it would definatelly depends on the time it takes to do all that.

 

[Eldorado2k]

@Calendyr. The 1st time you see how effective compressed air cleans a foam pad you'll be amazed. Just a few seconds and it leaves it looking so clean you'll wonder if you have to re prime it again. Lol.

 

[hdez]

LOL, you know me as we've both been on the forum for a while. :dblthumb2:







rops: Great choice. :buffing:
As a side note, Speed is now being made with HD Polish PLUS(among other things), so it should be even better than the original version that was made with HD Polish.

Since when HD speed has new formula?

 

[dakotaRT]

Can I use my air compressor for this?

 

[Nav45]

@Calendyr. The 1st time you see how effective compressed air cleans a foam pad you'll be amazed. Just a few seconds and it leaves it looking so clean you'll wonder if you have to re prime it again. Lol.

Do you suggest regular compressed air cans? Those are a bit quirky at times when I have used them.

Thanks.

 

[Eldorado2k]

Do you suggest regular compressed air cans? Those are a bit quirky at times when I have used them.

Thanks.

No, it was from a real deal air compressor & air gun nozzle. I'm 99% certain compressed air can is nowhere near on the same level.

 

[AGOatemywallet]

I hard a hard time seeing being able to Compound (even if it's just 2 passes). polish and seal in 3 hours. How long does this typically take you? It's not a bad idea, but it would definatelly depends on the time it takes to do all that.

8 hours to Compound and Polish

12 hours total with Wash, Decon, Coating, etc.

 

[AGOatemywallet]

No, it was from a real deal air compressor & air gun nozzle. I'm 99% certain compressed air can is nowhere near on the same level.

+1

 

[beamerstrumpet]

They probably put a little more cut into it. As I mentioned before, you want more correction and just 4 passes with speed, add a few drops cut to it.

My super speed mix is roughly 50% speed and I add 25% cut and round out the other 25% with polish and poxy. 4 passes and BOOM. most the customers dont want a full 3 step and the time it takes they don't want to pay for. This is super speed in action.

 

[dakotaRT]

They probably put a little more cut into it. As I mentioned before, you want more correction and just 4 passes with speed, add a few drops cut to it.

My super speed mix is roughly 50% speed and I add 25% cut and round out the other 25% with polish and poxy. 4 passes and BOOM. most the customers dont want a full 3 step and the time it takes they don't want to pay for. This is super speed in action.

Wow that is one hell of a detail. Good Job! Does it work better if you mix all the products up together?

 

[MikeC78]

Can someone explain the difference between speed and this new + designator? I just purchased some speed, Polish and Poxy from AGO not long ago, none of my bottles have this + on them.

 

[hdez]

Can someone explain the difference between speed and this new + designator? I just purchased some speed, Polish and Poxy from AGO not long ago, none of my bottles have this + on them.

The "+", as I've read, it is only a improved formula for HD Cut and HD Polish to prevent dusting in some scenarios, not sure which ones. But the cutting and finishing abilities are the same.

 

[fly07sti]

The "+", as I've read, it is only a improved formula for HD Cut and HD Polish to prevent dusting in some scenarios, not sure which ones. But the cutting and finishing abilities are the same.

From my experience in using them, they haven't dusted at all and Cut seems to be a little more aggressive and polish finishes even better. Probably do to the extended working time.

 

[beamerstrumpet]

Pretty much what I was saying above. but Speed works great on its own. this is just more correction power OH and a MF pad. Im now a convert.

 

[dakotaRT]

Just wanted to order SPEED in the 32 OZ size with the current 20% discount and they are back ordered!!! UGGGH. Is there still a way I can order it?