3D Speed now offshore made

[chilly]

I always read so much great information on posts here and Autopia. There are soo soo many great products, or just products period. So much education from you guys that have tried alot of them.
But being the.... lets say buyer of products... lol, it can be harmful to guys like me. Or harmful to my visa more to the point.
I came from hands on only detailing, didn't jump into machine paint correction till about 4-5 years ago. When I did I used the the Mike Phillips words of Rupes's "system", and grabbed Rupes machines and compounds and polishes and pads. I did grab a few products out of the Rupes circle, Sonax Perfect Finish and some red and yellow pads (pads were on clearance for crazy cheap) and a bottle of Xtreme Solutions Finisher. Oh, and I always had Megs Ultimate products.
But I figure going from hand to machine is a major upgrade in paint looks, so anything I'm missing from any products oit of what I have won't be too much of a letdown. I just keep self control not to buy alot of the great products out there, I'dd be broke.

My hat is off to ANYONE who can keep from going down the rabbit hole (no offense :laughing

I am actually doing better since I sold all my stuff in Hawaii and had to start essentially from scratch for the 3rd time

The fly in the ointment is this new car with the ceramic coating cause everybody knows you need all new stuff to take care of a coated car, right?



2 years ago I was actually leaning heavily towards probably a 80% arsenal of 3D products but I quickly put on the brakes after the MP vs 3D blowup, and luckily I wasn't buying much except microfibers and a few interior cleaners and RW stuff until I got in the new garage

Now I have a bit of this and that and some overlapping but I am actually trying to practice what I preach, KISS

 

[Desertnate]

Cost of producing in the US continues to rise while it's much cheaper in Asia.

That seems to be the biggest problem in a lot of areas. US labor costs are significantly higher which drives products to either be uncompetitive price-wise in the market, or production costs become unsustainable for the health of the company...or both.

It will be interesting to get feedback on the Vietnam produced HD Speed once someone tries it out. Speed has been in my arsenal since it was introduced.

With the right quality control measures in place, you shouldn't notice any difference.

 

[dlc95]

I always read so much great information on posts here and Autopia. There are soo soo many great products, or just products period. So much education from you guys that have tried alot of them.
But being the.... lets say buyer of products... lol, it can be harmful to guys like me. Or harmful to my visa more to the point.
I came from hands on only detailing, didn't jump into machine paint correction till about 4-5 years ago. When I did I used the the Mike Phillips words of Rupes's "system", and grabbed Rupes machines and compounds and polishes and pads. I did grab a few products out of the Rupes circle, Sonax Perfect Finish and some red and yellow pads (pads were on clearance for crazy cheap) and a bottle of Xtreme Solutions Finisher. Oh, and I always had Megs Ultimate products.
But I figure going from hand to machine is a major upgrade in paint looks, so anything I'm missing from any products oit of what I have won't be too much of a letdown. I just keep self control not to buy alot of the great products out there, I'dd be broke.

Honestly, I've found significant time savings to become very famaliar with just one polish, one compound, and a few pads.

I see even pro YouTubeers with a ton of product on their shelves, and they'll post a video about chasing a shine via the many polishes on the shelf. They could have had the thing finished and enjoying family time had they only one set of polishes and a few pads to work with.

So, in that instance, you're in great shape! You're probably not missing anything.

I had come to really rely on the zero dust and versatility of the 3D offerings, but I can definitely get similar with Optimum Hyper Polish. It doesn't have as much cut, but the first is more consistent from vehicle to vehicle.

For what it's worth, it's been more difficult to off the products that I bought and don't want or need anymore, then to have lived without them. I wish I hadn't bought so much stuff!

 

[Silly Rabbit]

Honestly, I've found significant time savings to become very famaliar with just one polish, one compound, and a few pads.

I see even pro YouTubeers with a ton of product on their shelves, and they'll post a video about chasing a shine via the many polishes on the shelf. They could have had the thing finished and enjoying family time had they only one set of polishes and a few pads to work with.

So, in that instance, you're in great shape! You're probably not missing anything.

I had come to really rely on the zero dust and versatility of the 3D offerings, but I can definitely get similar with Optimum Hyper Polish. It doesn't have as much cut, but the first is more consistent from vehicle to vehicle.

For what it's worth, it's been more difficult to off the products that I bought and don't want or need anymore, then to have lived without them. I wish I hadn't bought so much stuff!

Yea I read some of the posts you guys talk about some of the products, I figure I don't know the difference either way, I have the products I have and will try hard to stay with those. As you said, I'll try my best to do the best I can - with the limited skillset- with these products.
So far I think I'm doing ok. Cause I don't know any different:dblthumb2:

 

[John U]

I stopped in at the new 3D Livonia MN retail store. All there product including Speed wears the made in USA label. The 3 employees had never hear of a Vietnam made product. That bottle of Speed my pal got from Amazon must be made for mass market.

Nice bunch of guys. They blew me away when they pulled out a CBeast they demo with.

 

[Desertnate]

The 3 employees had never hear of a Vietnam made product. That bottle of Speed my pal got from Amazon must be made for mass market

Does 3D sell products in Asia? That might explain it. Or the bottle is counterfeit.

 

[dlc95]

I stopped in at the new 3D Livonia MN retail store. All there product including Speed wears the made in USA label. The 3 employees had never hear of a Vietnam made product. That bottle of Speed my pal got from Amazon must be made for mass market.

Nice bunch of guys. They blew me away when they pulled out a CBeast they demo with.

Well, that's good to know!

I'll keep my eye on it. If I notice any changes in performance, I'll deal with it then.

Those polishes are so versatile and user friendly that I'd hate to give that up.

That being said, I've really enjoyed the Opti polishes and it's been nice using Meguiar's Ultimate Compound and Polish again. It's like coming home.

 

[John U]

I did write the company on their contact form two weeks ago. No response……

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Depending on the seller, it does seem like it might have been some Asian-market product that someone was selling here, as Desertnate noted.

 

[chilly]

FWIW, the 3D product page still shows a bottle of speed with the American flag and "Made in USA" under the flag and very boldly states MADE IN USA in the verbiage of the description

YMMV

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Yeah, I started to reply to this thread a few days ago, 3D has all the "made in USA" stuff plastered over their (USA) website, but remember Tunch is from Turkey or somewhere, and it's 3D International, and it may be that the Asian-market product is made in Asia, and some seller there decided he could make more money by selling it on Amazon here.

I've found there is a weird market here for things like oil filters for Asian cars, especially when Honda locally-sourced their oil filters for the US, people wanted the "real" JDM filters and there was all kinds of crazy stuff going on.

 

[Desertnate]

Yeah, I started to reply to this thread a few days ago, 3D has all the "made in USA" stuff plastered over their (USA) website, but remember Tunch is from Turkey or somewhere, and it's 3D International, and it may be that the Asian-market product is made in Asia, and some seller there decided he could make more money by selling it on Amazon here.

This is the likely answer. Vendors come and go all the time on Amazon doing that kind of thing.

I've found there is a weird market here for things like oil filters for Asian cars, especially when Honda locally-sourced their oil filters for the US, people wanted the "real" JDM filters and there was all kinds of crazy stuff going on.

I'm not sure about the Honda oil filters, but often there are performance gains (i.e. better filtering or improved flow) by going with the JDM or non-US market versions for some of those parts. In the case of my car, it's air filters. The US-market ones have this strange dense foam layer glued to the bottom/engine side of the filter the JDM/Euro version does not. Buying JDM/Euro filter gets you the same filtering ability and better airflow since the filter element is the same minus the strange foam layer.